The Left come with labels to take your power away

In the light of the growing Pegida movement – a grouping of disillusioned citizens, neo-Nazis and football hooligans who oppose Muslim immigration and have been backed by the anti-immigration party Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) – the debate in Germany since the attacks in the French capital has been particularly nervous.

Such organisations, just like other populist and anti-immigrant parties gaining support in the polls across Europe, have been quick to make political capital from the attacks, citing them as proof that all their fears about Islamism were true.

“This bloodbath proves that those who laughed at or ignored the fears of so many people about a looming danger of Islamism were wrong,” said Alexander Gauland, a regional leader of AfD, which has its roots in the euro crisis and is currently riding at 25% in nationwide polls, on the day of the Charlie Hebdo attacks. “This gives new weight to Pegida demands.”

I consider myself a disillusioned citizen, and  I suspect you might include yourself as well.

But you can see what’s happening by being grouped with football hooliagans and neo-Nazis.  It makes our opinion evil, extreme, wrong and we’re part of an ugly mob.

This is how the left and their compliant media try to marginalise our concerns.

They ignore the deaths, the ignore the terror, they ignore the problems surrounding Islam in the western democracies and label people like you and me, who would like to rationally and calmly debate Muslim immigration with a view to prevent what is happening overseas from happening here, as Nazis no less.


But we are indeed concerned citizens, and if this finds us sharing views with football hooligans and neo-Nazis, then it means the Muslim problem has become dire.

Hitler liked to paint.  We don’t persecute painters because of this.

So just because neo-Nazi’s and concerned citizens are worried about the impact of Islam on their lives, their freedom and their futures, should not mean we get labeled as part of a rabid mob.

But the media, and the left, they’ll try.   Apparently it is “concerned citizens” rising up that are the problem here.  Not some lone wolf hostage takers with no association to Islam or terrorism.


– The Guardian


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  • taurangaruru

    Labels like “far right wing” “radical right wing” “right wing extremists” “right wing attack blog” etc etc. Terms used by lefties to sully the arguments of those they disagree with. Strangely enough most of those supposed “far right” are actually everyday run of the mill moderates who just happen to disagree with socialism. Which btw based on the above should be known as “far left” “radical left wing” etc but strangely enough is never labelled as such by the MSM. Why is that?

    • JKV

      Great post and so true. In answer to your question – and I suspect you know this – most of the MSM is populated with lefties and if the real world doesn’t fit their narrative, they tend to try to distort reality to fit their world view. Most sensible people see through this and consequently turn off. This, in my humble opinion, is one of the main reasons that the MSM is in trouble.

  • dgrogan

    Fortunately, the left has no standing in NZ at the moment. Let’s keep it that way.

  • tinfoilhatguy

    I’m certainly a disillusioned citizen. I’ll also stand up and defend my country, my way of life and my freedoms. Unlike the left and the hand wringing apologists for Islamic extremism. They can denigrate people like me all they want but when the AK47’s rounds are flying in their streets, they’ll be hiding under the bed and crying out for help from people like us.

    I think a lot of people, good, average, common sense people are seeing that the only hope for their future lies with the far right. Centrist and leftist politics will place all our heads on the chopping block.

    • peterwn

      No need to be disillusioned. Just think – if you could choose to live in any country in the world – which one would you choose? Granted some would prefer USA or Queensland, but while NZ is not perfect it is pretty good.

      Some people despair of politics for many petty reasons, like being ticketed for being 1kph over the limit but fail to see the bigger political picture that is looming.

      The far right will not provide answers – but supporting and being active in a moderate major political party would be the best compromise. A far right party is all very well, but could be the surest way for the left to divide and conquer.

    • Mark

      Was having this discussion this morning over a coffee,how can I make my views known without being painted as a right wing extremist gun nut?
      The thing is I hate fascist hooligans as much as I hate commie hooligans,I don’t care if you are a Minto/Unite supporter or a West Ham supporter… (Sorry couldn’t resist,don’t shoot!).
      I don’t want to be part of a society where a woman in a hijab is not free to walk the streets,neither do I want to see “Daisy Dukes” banned either.
      I will stand for freedom of religion & speech,my enemies don’t care to,I am saddened by the things I will need to do to win this war,they are not.
      Do not take my sadness as weakness.
      I didn’t want this war,I am happy to live in peace,it was what my parents wanted me to be able to do when they took me from a civil war zone. They did not bring me to NZ as a missionary to change New Zealanders’ way of life,they brought me here to grow up without having my choices being forced upon me by the beliefs of my religious leaders.
      If the politicians won’t draw lines in the sand that are meaningful,the people will & and some of them will be hooligans & neo nazis,and after we have won this war,we will sort them out as required.
      I repeat,I did not want this war,but I tell you now I am capable of fighting it.

      “I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you,
      with tears in my eyes: If you mess with me, I’ll kill you all.”Maj. Gen. James Mattis

      “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and
      degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing
      is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is
      willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal
      safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless
      made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” John Stuart Mill.

      • jonno1

        The thing is, fascism sits neatly between socialism and communism, so they’re not so different except that fascists want to control your behaviour while communists want to control the means of production. Yet left-wingers try to portray fascism as extreme right-wing; another example of framing the narrative to suit their objectives.

  • Rodger T

    Yes labels and chanting empty platitudes are substituted for reasoned debate,and then they wonder why they struggle to get 25% of the vote at election time.
    And judging by what I see in the MSM and in parliament they still don`t get it, good , long may it last.

  • peterwn

    Lewis Carroll must have had this in mind in ‘Alice Through the Looking Glass’:
    “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

    “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”

    “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”

    So the same question for ordinary French, British, Australian, New Zealand etc people is ‘which is to be master’ – democratically elected governments or tyrants whether it be ISIS or John Minto & co who try and force their will on society.

  • paul468

    At least we passed the bill to tighten up security fairly promptly, and unless the government makes some hard decisions about immigration rules for muslims we could well have a one policy party help win the 2017 election. I’m a starter and I am no neo nazi / hooligan, quite the opposite, but i feel strongly about this one issue for the future of our country. Others need to join together to help sort this out. It’s too late when they are already here.

    • Rex

      yes I am the same. Immigration HAS to be tightened!

  • conwaycaptain

    You will note that during WW 1 and 2 the conscientious objectors were all from the Left Wing of the political spectrum.
    However some said that they would not bear arms but would serve as stretcher bearers or medical orderlies, many of this type were Quakers

  • JKV

    Quite so Cam. Just slightly OT but have been over to the Guardian to see what else they’ve been saying. There is an article by Muslim apologist Tariq Ramadan ‘The Paris attackers hijacked Islam but there is no war between the Islam & the West’. What really shocked and surprised me are the comments BTL. Over 90% from my rough guess were very critical (in some cases scathingly so) of the author and Islam. Some very tough questions being asked. Never seen it before. Could there be a sea change going on amongst the ever dwindling Guardian readership?

  • Nick

    Fair enough, using unfair comparisons in order to make a point is the cheats way of debate. Perhaps then it’s time time to stop using terms like Green Taliban or Eco terrorists? I’d like to see your points made without these epithets which group those who you merely disagree with, or dislike, in with those who commit these appalling acts of religious murder.