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  • Nige.

    My friend had a dog that had to be kept inside during the evening because he would take tokens and money out of milk bottles that had been left at the letterbox for the milkman (ahh…milk person for those who are PC).

    Does anyone have any extraordinary dog tales?

    • 1951

      Another grower’s Lab was very fond of ripened avocado (as our one is). He sold up and moved nearer town. His dog found another orchard round on the main road and would head off there to help herself, and return home with one in the mouth to bury for later. Unfortunately it got the better of her, due to her obsession she is now searching for avos up there in the clouds. Labs aren’t good in traffic.

      • LovetoTeach

        Our inlaws lab is a lovely round shape due to his addiction to avos and the fact they grow them. He scoffs so many in a day, it’s hilarious!

    • Imogen B

      Had a foxy-beagle cross. Left a box of Chocs on the hall table in preparation for catching the RD postie one Christmas. came in and found foil everywhere.She’d opened the box and nibbled a hole in the side of each wrapper. Contents gone but wrappers intact complete with twistie ends.
      Couldn’t train that dog to do a darned thing, but she sure picked up some hilarious habits!

    • cows4me

      I cooked two plates of picklets (Jam,Wipe cream) last Christmas to take to my mothers for Christmas. Put them on the front seat of my wifes car and went to get the next plate. Dog eat the first plate, there were no Christmas bones for her.

  • Primrose

    The powers-that-be are blaming the lower price of petrol for the road toll. Does this mean that the lower-income group are poor drivers?

    • Bobb

      It means that TNZ and the Police are desperate to find some reason for the road toll that doesn’t involve bad drivers and bad roads.

      • sheppy

        And that can’t be blamed on zero tolerance speed enforcement for 2 months, in order to guard their revenue stream for next time

        • Imogen B

          No, but it’ll encourage someone to add 15c/L to the price every holiday weekend!

  • RightofSingapore

    Interesting that the Police are concerned about rising assaults on Police officers, yet of the 5 thugs who ganged up on Police in Dunedin a few days ago, 4 were let off by Police with pre-charge warnings. That practically encourages criminals to “have a go” at Police. There ought to be a high price to pay for assaulting Police even for low level assaults.

  • Greg M

    Last night was my first sober new years eve since 1982. Do I miss the turps ? Nope.

    • Nige.

      After watching/reading the news you almost have to ask if its time we needed a damn alcohol licence in this country. Some twits out there.

      • Don W

        The mount was the trouble spot 40 years back where alcohol and youth wasn’t a good combination.

      • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

        And a breeding licence too.

    • cows4me

      In bed at nine Greg up at five, apparently the cows haven’t worked out it’s new year, it’s taken me a few years though.

      • Don W

        Happy new year Cows , Hope the dairy job improves.

        • cows4me

          Happy new year to you to Don, may your wire be tight and your strainers vertical.

          • Don W

            Strainers and angles should always be laying back.

          • cows4me

            Yeah I know but beggars can’t be choosers .

          • Don W

            Never settle for a second rate job.

          • cows4me

            Have to, do it myself.

          • Don W

            Have you got a post banger.

          • cows4me

            Yep, big piece of metal on the end of a pipe.

          • Don W

            Is it called a spade .

          • cows4me

            No I was thinking more of one of my kids.

          • Don W

            A chip of the old block ,?

        • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

          Here ya go mate, from the “Girls”.

      • Watcher

        Happy 2015 Cows.
        Edit… Watch the effluent runoff mate or Cam will come and visit.

  • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

    Why are the boozers taking up time and resources not being mad to pay for them. If its your fault and due to stupidity you should have to cover the cost of your actions. Maybe then the booze culture will slow down a bit. Oh and maybe its time for the drinking age to go back up as that vote buying… ah i mean social experiment has failed.

    • tinfoilhatguy

      Massive tax take on alcohol. Same with the massive tax and excise revenue on tobacco – the money is too compelling, hence nothing will ever be done.

      • ozbob68

        Make a local tax on alcohol, based on the costs of policing in the previous year for alcohol-related services (police, ambulance, road crashes etc). It may take a year or two, but people will equate the rise in cost with their behaviour and modify it accordingly.

        • Wallace Westland

          Hang on a sec. 70% of the store price of a bottle of anything is tax now.
          What you are advocating is the simplistic attitude usually attributed to the left to tax and punish all to get a result.
          I don’t support that process at all.

          Stupid people need to pay for their own stupidity. What you are asking for is me to subsidise them more than I already do.

          And the vote buying exercise of lowering the drinking age most definitely needs to be reversed back to 20.

          • ozbob68

            Wallace, I agree, people should be made to pay for their own stupidity. But it has to be done at arms length otherwise it’s seen as “big brother”. How can we make that distinction between those that abuse alcohol and those that casually imbibe?

            – Perhaps a national register of drinks consumed per person? Totally relies on the individual and open to abuse by “shouting”. Plus creates a police state.
            – A drinking license, renewed with a medical at a set period? That’s a ambulance at the bottom of the cliff, it takes too long for the ill effects of alcohol to make themselves known in this way.
            – Spot fines for those who need to be scooped up by ambulance / police? All well and good until someone who needed medical attention avoids these services to dodge the fine and ends up dying.

            – Spot fines for public intoxication? Lack of control is a relative term, does the man performing the haka get fined, or the woman screaming at her cheating ex-boyfriend?
            – Fines in the mail after the event? Seriously difficult to identify everyone.

            I don’t think the answer is simple but welcome any ideas you may have.

          • Wallace Westland

            I have one answer. Personal responsibility.

            To expand, if you don’t like the way others drink stay away from those areas (my personal choice although I will go to my local bar to meet my mates)
            Outside of that the truth is the tax take into the consolidated slush fund already more than covers those costs.
            Again if stupid people want to injure themselves and others…and again I stress..to a point those others don’t need to be where they are then it’s their issue not mine.

            I realise there is some comeback re public places and events but again, if the venue is licensed and you don’t want to be around drinkers…DON’T GO THERE!

          • ozbob68

            Wallace, you seem to have veered wildly away from the issue being discussed here, with a small sojourn towards tax costs in the middle. The question is how to regulate behaviour – your proposals to “stay away” or “leave them be” don’t address the issues, merely put it them out of (your) sight.

          • Wallace Westland

            You will note that I also said the “tax take into the consolidated slush fund already more than covers those costs.”
            These are the taxes already imposed on alcohol excluding GST but including the progressive tax which was implemented by Labour. These taxes as I already said make up more than 70% of the cost of a drink from an off license.

        • Don W

          Not everyone are irresponsible drinkers . Why punish us with extra taxes. Punish those that act in an anti social way.

        • cows4me

          Won’t work, very little alcohol or crime problems here but plenty of coppers that just love farmers who surprisingly might have a spare dollar.

    • 1951

      How about re-instating law that was removed by Labour’s Anne Hercus way back when, that made ‘youth’ just as responsible if they broke the law as the rest of us is. Pay in the same way, not the “softly, softly family group hugs dear, dear all wills be right diddums” treatment as it is at the moment.

    • cows4me

      Can’t do that EaW the socialists need the votes. They haven’t figured out that the young voter doesn’t give a fat rat’s arse about politics. A lot of harm done for very little gain.

  • ozbob68

    Aaah, back at my place after 10 days on the mainland with the Whanau. Lovely to see them but great to leave too.

  • Caprice

    Reading all the new year messages earlier almost brought a lump to my throat – whale oil family feeling.. I love it. I have one reservation going into 2015 however, and that is to do with time.
    I have never brought a game console for fear of being sucked into some addictive game that swallows time.
    I don’t have TV. There is some good stuff on, but I end up watching it just because it is on. I am happier without.
    Ditto with Facebook. Don’t want to go there.
    Whaleoil however, has quietly wangled it’s way into my life. I cannot help but go and check, at breakfast, at lunchtime, and then again during the evening.
    Has anyone thought of an AA style meeting for whaleoil addiction. Or maybe a combo, where I could reduce my red wine intake and make my WO time, if not less, at least more efficient.
    Oh god, 2015 is the year of Freed…

    • ozbob68

      I am curious as to what format the Freed media will take. Will it be a webcast at 6pm every night, plus ability to stream articles afterwards? Do I need to follow it on a tablet or will it be bundled as part of the Smart TV Services offered by TV manufacturers these days? (Sony, etc). Or will it be a sky or freeview channel?

      • Caprice

        I am not sure about the format either. Just worried about being a Slave to Freed.

    • 1951

      Caprice, just know you are not alone with your affliction. Sadly I have regressed even lower. No longer will the $9.99 bottle do the job. I have moved up scale and unable to do it with-out crackers laden in avo & brie. The dog is about to call AA.

      • Don W

        Does that mean you need two $9.99 bottles to do the job.?

        • 1951

          Cheeky.
          I still have there where-with-all to limit to just 2 glasses at most. It’s just that I have only come to partaking of wine later in life,I am still learning. I find myself adhering to everything John Hawksbry advices and it is quite intoxicating. I can sense trouble ahead.

          • Don W

            Two glasses .? You will have to do better than that.:)

          • 1951

            Oh ok, just as it’s New Year’s Day I’ll have a 3rd. It will be your fault if I become obstreperous. Cheers ;)

          • Don W

            Obstreperous. Had to look that up. Can’t imagine you being like that. Responsible for your own action eh . Cheers also.:)

          • cows4me

            Is that a flash word for gout?

          • 1951

            You rude bugger, I’m not that bad yet. As you know I’m a quiet wee thing, I will only be heard once the dander is up. But given the right syrup I can get quite mouthy at times.The Left have heard nothing yet :)

          • cows4me

            Good on you girl, take no prisoners.

          • Don W

            You go girl.;)

          • Wendy

            Obstreperous s such a good word

          • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

            Im simillar with my alcohol intake. I prefer to drink a small amount of good quality stuff rather than my Navy days where I quaffed whatever I could get my hands on and as cheaply as possible.

    • hbboy

      I’m with you – thinking of going to WO counselling

  • Isherman

    Not usually in the habit of re-posting, but for anyone who hasn’t scrolled through today’s general debate thread, you might find this as intriguing as I did.

    • Sally

      Maybe he is realising that the walls are closing in and looking for the last bit of sympathy.

      • Isherman

        Sympathy?, nup, cant see him having too much of that on the way out.

        • Watcher

          I just hope that the flight number is advertised by Freed.

          I will happily take time out from my office and staff to travel to Auckland and give the fat bar steward a joyous finger as he heads for the departure gate.

          • Isherman

            Sounds like a plan, we could all meet up at the airport bar before hand and raise a glass for the occasion.

      • Huia

        Should have thought of that before he tried his rotten best to corrupt our political and justice system.
        Stop with the bleating Dot Com and take it like a man.

    • caochladh

      Its the other way around for gods sake. The German criminal has wronged this country on so many levels that we should confiscate anything we can get our hands on as restitution before he gets on the plane.

    • Carl

      I would be happy if we give him fair terms that include he never steps foot or has anything to do with NZ again.

      • Don W

        A one way ticket to a nice cell where an orange jump suit is provided.

        • Isherman

          As it turns out, the ticket is orange too….

          • Don W

            The sooner the better.

    • Cowgirl

      I expect the NZ Government doesn’t owe him anything. He is not a NZer.

    • Toothbrush76

      So the setting up of the internet party, rabble-rousing meetings against the government, and personal attacks on JK and his family were fair?
      Why not just hand him over; no terms, no conditions, just don’t come back.

      • Isherman

        I just hope that his former staff, contractors and other creditors weren’t eating dinner when they read it, the poor buggers would nearly choke.

    • Tom McKechnie

      Kim Dotcom will not win the sympathy vote with this kind of bleating.

      Maybe if some photographer were to walk along the beach and just happened to see KDC sitting on a very large log, in quiet reflection & his onesies rolled up to his knees. No on second thoughts…………

    • Skydog

      Didn’t a infamous German / Austrian with a little tash turn on his own people towards the end. I expect KDC will do the same. You have to blame someone else for your downfall don’t you?

    • mommadog

      Im intrigued by him using the words my surrender. As if his leaving to face court in the USA is voluntary. He has been doing everything but surrender.

    • Watcher

      Reading this made steam rise from my harkers.

      I really want to say rude things.

      I hope the fat bar steward is reading this, how dare you.

      Fair terms eh. pppfffttt.

      Get on the plane and go forth and multiply you mongrel.

    • Wheninrome

      He sure is buying into the NZ hand-out society, We have wronged him, he is due, someone has to pay, it isn’t my fault, where is my hand-out.
      2015 this has got to stop or at least we need to get the Social Services and WINZ hand-outs back to where and what they were initially set up for. Those in genuine need.
      Dotcom, or whoever you are, the NZ taxpayer owes you absolutely nothing.

      • Isherman

        The only thing he should get from us is a collective one fingered wave at the departure gate.

        • Wheninrome

          He is the typical big boy bully, cry baby when things turn against them.

    • edee

      NZ Govt wronged him so much??? Could someone please enlighten me as to what the heck he is talking about. Only thing I am aware of that the Govt did wrong was to allow him into NZ.

    • James Growley

      Fiat justitia ruat caelum.

      • Isherman

        And may it land heavy upon him.

  • Cowgirl

    Happy New Year everyone – it’s finally ticked over here :)

    • Isherman

      And to you..hows the temp at midnight there?

      • Cowgirl

        We are at -5 which is bikini weather really

        • Don W

          Yeah ok.

          • Cowgirl

            Well at least it seems like it when some days are -20 and winter hasn’t even got going yet.

          • Don W

            Minus 20.? really. so much for global warming. That makes us here in NZ like being in the tropics.

        • cows4me

          It’s 8.40 here and it’s 16c so it’s not that tropical but it’s pleasant.

    • 1951

      Go Girl, you show’em how. Happy New Year :)

  • Pluto

    Congrats to Cowgirl for being number 3 contributor for the year – not the numbers but more the quality and positivity each time.
    Like me was blocked out for a while and no surprise you were brought back in through an unofficial popularity contest.
    Go well Cowgirl and happy new year !

    • Cowgirl

      Thanks! Feeling the love tonight :)

  • mrfattsworth

    Happy new Year everyone :)

    • cows4me

      And same to you sir/madam.

  • Wendy

    Ok, so who is still feeling ill?

    • Dave

      Feeling fine thanks Wendy, and about to have dinner of fresh fruit perhaps with a bit of ham. Do hope you get better soon.

      • Wendy

        Oh, nothing wrong with me. Early night, work, quiet bevvy now.
        I would imagine Im in the minority though.

        • Isherman

          Not quite, me too. Boss was working today, so quiet one last night, same again for tomorrow. Quite novel not having a slightly heavy head on New Years day, couple of quiet ones on the deck this arvo, it was nice.

          • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

            The streets were deserted this morning when the wife and I went for a walk at 745. In the hour we were out we saw one jogger and two cars in Rolleston.

            Judging by the discarded fireworks and the re-enacting of the bombing of Iraq around my neighbourhood, there may be a few sore heads down this way.

    • Wasapilot

      Came right around noon. Mrs Wasapilot on the other hand has been under the weather all day, currently sound asleep in front of the TV. We need to remember that we aren’t 50 any longer

  • Dave

    First chance to say Happy New year everyone, hope 2015 is a great year! We spent NYE at Charters Towers at the Profesional Bull riding or Bull falling off as the wife calls it. A really great night, and the video has some of the action. A kiwi from Gisbourne Fraser Babbington was doing really well and leading for some time, he ended up 5th on the night, but a great ride. The video is his 2nd and not so successful ride. This was a small bull!

  • independant

    just saw cam walking up my street a bit earlier in whangaparoa :)

    • Watcher

      Wow ;-)

    • Jafarma

      Popping down to check out Russell Coutts new house perhaps?

    • spanishbride

      Did you see the stunning gorgeous woman walking with him?

      • independant

        I did, i wanted to yell out the window go whaleoil but didnt want to disturb them on their quiet walk :)

        • spanishbride

          You sweetie LOL Yes I enjoy our walks. Give us a wave next time :)

  • PG

    I haven’t scrolled through the 85, so stop me if I’m boring you. Anyone else sick of the ridiculous honours system? With a few eminent exceptions it seems to be public servants restating their greatness. Next thing you know they’ll be giving that populist moron judge Elias a damehood. Hold on . . . what?

    • coltheman

      STOP

    • Alright

      The “Honours” system is a joke.

      Just how laughable? A magician got one for….???????. If you think I’m joking check out the list.

      I live in Auckland. But I marvel at the people in Christchurch who, despite extreme personal adversity, managed to continue providing customer service and keep their businesses going.

      Surely one of them – rather than someone who pulls rabbits out of a hat – deserved to be “honoured.”

      …but then they may have politely politely declined the invitation to be a recipient of a faux accolade.

      • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

        I keep hoping as a truck driver for a utilities company in Chch that I’ll get the call up to be Knighted for my services to traffic and power.

        Although I’d settle for being Governor General for a term.

        Both will look good on my CV.

        • Alright

          EAW: I hate to advise you of this, but these are forlorn hopes unless you know someone on the cabinet committee that makes the selections.

          Quite simply being a truck driver doesn’t cut the mustard. Is it too late for you to become a magician?

    • Nyla

      giving judge peter williams an honor …. hes strictly a prisoners human rights man …. what a joke … and then we must have a percentage of races added so shut eyes and poke a few names

  • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

    Ahhh, Xmas time with the family…

  • jude

    I have just cooked on a cast iron skillet for the first time! It heats very quickly and needed mittens because the handle heats too! This skillet was so heavy , I needed two hands to lift off gas hob!
    It was very easy to clean . I will hVe to put on my wish list .
    The clown who drove 10 kids in a trailor at 100k should be charged with child abuse! Do we have child endangerment laws?
    You can’t teach common sense.

    • Isherman

      Cant beat cast iron, heats evenly too. Now you did season it before first use didn’t you…

      • jude

        We are hiring a cottage so it has been well used! I have not cooked on one before so this is a treat for me

      • Nyla

        i had 2 cast iron …. but they were rusty, so theyre now pot plant saucers

        • Isherman

          Seasoning will help prevent this, and you can do it as often as required. The way I season is rub a light coat of vege oil over the pan, then turn it upside down in the oven on bake(150-180c), for 30-45 mins or so, with some foil under it to catch any drips. If the pan is starting to rust, you can use a mixture of oil and salt rubbed firmly into it, and then washed out in very hot water, use steel wool if needed. Seasoning before use and occasionally thereafter is your best bet, you want to end up with a shiny black patina and then you will find it wont rust and will do you for basically ever.

          • Nyla

            thanks for that Isherman

    • Alright

      The simple truth…the driver was not smacked on the bottom enough.

      • jude

        But surely most people would have an oz of common sense? How could you put kids in that situation and think that is ok?
        Thank the lord there are people not afraid to call*555 if you see idiots like this! Only time we called that nber was to call in a goat, I kid you not, about to meander on to the motorway. I was reassured when the operator said they had had several calls!

        • Alright

          Jude, your original premise is wrong. “Sense” is not (very apparently) not “Common.”

          …and now the driver is grown up I’d smack him (it has to be a male surely) somewhere else other than on the bottom.

          • jude

            It really irritates me so much! The law is written for the many but the few that break the law get off lightly! I really think our judges need to be way more harsh in sentencing and interpreting the law.
            I am tempted to write an essay! I shall stop now.

          • Alright

            Yes. We reap what we (as a society) grow, and often it is idiots, including the “judges.”

      • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

        With a heavy pan.

        • Alright

          Around the head, rather than the bottom?

          • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

            Perhaps a high five in the face with the pan?

          • Alright

            LOL. Seriously though how do we change idiots like this without appropriate discipline? Or is it now simply too late for a generation or two?

          • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

            Unfortunately society voted that discipline was something we wouldnt do anymore and self discipline/control was a better way to approach issues. We are now seeing the children of the undisciplined generations starting their own disorderly families and unfortunately their parenting skills and common sense was not incorportated into their upbringing.

            When They have no fear of the police or the judiciary or their parents or any authority figures then the battle is lost. They know they can blame society and get off, or take the fines until they get so large that they will be written off and some token community service (which they wont do) is given by a soft touch judge who grew up no doubt feeling the lick of the cane, but abhors punishing the “poor wee dears” with anything other than a soggy bus ticket.

            We need the hard ass cops that scared you straight, we need parents to take their part in raising a useful next generation, teachers that dont take crap from their students and we need a justice system that meters out punishment that fits the crime and takes the bad buggers off the streets for as long as needed.

            Until then we shall reap what the soft namby pamby socialists sowed for us all those years ago.

            Which I am sorry to say means we are buggered!

          • Alright

            I’m not quite so pessimistic.

            That said my generation grew up with the Second World War as a profound back drop to moral compass and behavior.

            Do we need another (declared) World War to get us back “on track.” I think not. I have confidence that most (though not all) of this generations parents relate to what is correct and wrong.

            But this is how the dynamic has changed…it is amazing…

    • Wendy

      When you buy one, get one with a wooden handle.

      • jude

        This must be as old as the cottage! I haven’t seen them around so I may have to sho online for one.

        • Wendy

          They are in all good kitchen shops and some camping shops too.

          • jude

            Will have a look when back in Wellington! Cheers

          • Wendy

            Kirks does a good line of Le Creuset.

          • jude

            I have been shopping at Moore Wilsons . Kirks is expensive but my 25 wedding anniversary is coming up

          • Alright

            More importantly at this moment: who is looking after Mr Jingles?

          • jude

            We are in a one bedroom cottage.☺️

      • dgrogan

        Not so good if you want to finish off cooking in the oven!

    • James Growley

      Circulon have some good gear. I bought some of their griddle bizzo’s for my tattie bread and they have been brilliant.

    • dgrogan

      So what did you USED to cook pikelets on, Jude?

      • jude

        I never had cooked with cast iron anything! We just had stainless steel! I now realise what I have been missing out on

  • I.M Bach

    I love V8’s, high performance anything, drag racing and the low price of crude oil.
    So there.

  • Ulysses Swanson

    Hey all, just wanted to recommend an outstanding NZ band; the Sparrow Thieves. Based on local fanbase support alone and without any industry help (they did get a generous donation from the ILT) they’ve managed to chart at #18 this week on the NZ album charts, you can check out a taster here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8mBtOo1vh8 – you’ll be surprised at how professional this looks/sounds for four guys from Invercargill with day jobs. I have no doubt that 2015 will be their year.

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