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  • Wendy

    This story is coming up on One News.
    What the hell is wrong with people?
    This child was hurt in a Boxing Day sale in Australia, when he was hit and knocked down by a shopper in a rush to grab a bargain.
    Is this what society has come to?
    Is this the length we as a society are prepared to go in the name of consumerism? Of getting a bargain?
    The woman who did this to the child walked away without even seeing if the child was ok.
    I am sickened.

    • ozbob68

      Seems a bit of a drastic result but I don’t think they have a dog’s show of the woman coming forward now and owning up.

    • ex-JAFA

      The parents didn’t appear to feel any guilt about the lack of care they took.

      • T. Akston

        Just worked up the outrage and off to the media they ran.

        • Watcher

          Sigh, as we have often bemoaned…more fool the media.

      • Dave

        The parents were likely too busy looking for their own bargains to worry about their own child.

    • Don W

      Agree with you Wendy it shows how uncivilized the human race still is. A a pack of wild animals fighting over a carcass is what these people are and to think they have the right to vote.

      • Wendy

        Wild animals fighting over a carcass I can have some sympathy with…it is food, and possibly the difference between life and death.

        This was at Rebel Sport.

        • Don W

          These people haven’t advanced from wild animals and are acting as wild animals as if they are in a life and death situation.

          • Dave

            Perhaps that person was from the West Coast :)

    • 1951

      Poor wee man. Your anger is rightly placed Wendy.

    • wooted

      That’s why, whenever I’m at a function, I hold back when they announce the food is ready, and let the women go first.

      • Wendy

        Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!

      • Steve (North Shore)

        even at a smorgasbord/buffet let the women go. The fat ones go to the dessert table first so they don’t miss out; then they give you the hurry up at the mains – then stall whilst waiting for more oysters

      • Don W

        It is good to see that chivalry is a live and well.

        • caochladh

          Self preservation more like. The food thing is our version of the Calgary Stampede.

          • ex-JAFA

            Pamplona: the running of the heifers and lardos.

          • caochladh

            You will have the Smalley female on your case.

          • ShoreRight

            She would be agreeing!

        • cows4me

          Left message for you Don at Meme post.

          • Don W

            How do I get there , I am not real clever on these things.

          • Chris EM

            Just check out cow’s comment in the Meme/Caption contest post.

    • Lux

      I don’t understand why anyone would take a child to one of those sales, they are insane.

      • Don W

        A primitive mindset perhaps.? Acting on primeval instincts.?

      • ShoreRight

        You’ve answered your own question …related to intelligence and self-esteem levels IMHO…very sad.

      • D.Dave

        Apparently the parents had given him a smartphone to play on while he walked. Stupid parenting in the first place. Secondly, dumb place to take a child without HOLDING THEIR HAND, What did they expect when they took him to a rugby match with a few thousand participants?
        .

  • Imogen B

    Penguins 3D. Seriously funny. And Benedict Cumberbatch is hot as Agent Classified.
    I love having grandchildren!

    • Don W

      Is that the same Benedict Cumberbatch that portrays the great Alan Turing of Bletchley park that developed the the technology that was able to overcome the German enigma machine and effectively shorten world war 2.?

      • Cowgirl

        That’s the one

        • Don W

          And I think Winston Churchill said that A Turing made one of the greatest contributions to ending WW2. A Turing was treated badly .

          • Cowgirl

            Very badly – it’s an incredibly tragic story for an absolute hero.

          • Don W

            He died a month after i was born

          • Imogen B

            A few days ago WOBH asked when a hacker was a hero (or similar). I think a 21st century Betchley Park situation would qualify.

  • GoingRight

    I am a day late but did anyone watch the London Fireworks, they were spectacular and I think Sydney might have some competition from now on. Sort of think that Boris might have had a hand in it to make sure they were OTT. Great idea to sell tickets to ensure safe numbers were there rather than overcrowding.

  • Wallace Westland

    With all the hoopla of the festive season it has been little commented on that Greece is about to have an election and the far-left populist party led by Alexis Tsipras is in a strong position to win.

    I’m no economist nor am I a political pundit but surely if Greece backs down from it’s austerity measures the other whiny socialists that make up the Eurozone won’t be far behind. The siesta takers Spain and the French farmers co op will beat the door down. The Italians will surely follow suit?

    Germany won’t take that lying down one imagines, I’m pretty sure Merkel who has placed her political life on the repayments won’t back down.
    Where then does that leave us again? In another debt spiral and financial crisis?

    The world isn’t well placed for that surely?
    Where too does this if it occurs leave the Euro? Do the indebted countries pull out or do they freeze out the defaulters and carry on?

    Would this be the death knell of the Euro and the EU? Would the English and Germans wake up to themselves and close their borders to the rampant immigration that will slowly and surely destroy all that has been gained since WW!!?

    Interesting times ahead I suspect.

    • Don W

      Is it correct that Greece has confiscated a percentage of private savings to prop up their failing economy, to no avail and is it correct that the NZ gov’t has that legislation on it’s books. ?

      • Wallace Westland

        I think both points are correct but as I said I’m no expert. Not even close.
        I’m putting it out there to see if an expert knows the answers or has a real opinion.
        All I’ve done is basically regurgitate what I’ve been reading and my own take on it which is probably a mile off the mark.

        • Disinfectant

          Yes in respect to a Bank failure in New Zealand.
          A portion of your savings will be written off. In other words swiped.
          The philosophy behinds this is that nothing is deemed to be safe investment and why should taxpayers bail out was is effectively a private company.
          Just hope that going into the future, no private company gets bailed out. i.e. no Tranz Rail bailout, no Air New Zealand bailout, no South Canterbury Finance bailout.
          Once broke it is broke. Too often when something goes broke the same Executives are left in place who made it go broke.
          Sometimes companies have to go broke to get the capital down. New owners are then afforded a better chance to get a return on capital at what the market return capacity is.
          When Air New Zealand was about to go broke, at least one New Zealand company had arranged a preliminary lease on a number of Boeings. Air New Zealand would have carried on, but with new owners.
          But Governments on both sides of the political spectrum just can’t keep out of business. The problem actually rests with their Ministerial advisers.

          • Wallace Westland

            So Government Insurance whether I like it or not?

          • Don W

            In other words when gov’t get it wrong, we get the bill and if we go broke after having our savings taken, the gov’t people get off scot free and still get to live a nice prosperous life . That sounds a lot like the regime in Zimbabwe.

          • Disinfectant

            A Government in New Zealand would unlikely be responsible for a New Zealand Bank going broke.
            Reckless lending, as in the case of the BNZ bank failure led to its downfall. In the case of SCF it was party related lending. So again reckless lending.
            I should add that under the new regime the shareholders lose everything first, and then the depositors would lose a portion of their savings after that.

          • yossarian

            I am not sure what you mean by (under) “the new regime”. As I understand “open bank resolution” (June 2013) the Govt has given itself the right to apply a haircut (immediately) to bank deposits independently of any action that might be taken (and ahead of) with regard to shareholders. How much of a haircut is at their discretion. It might take a catastrophic event to trigger it, but the power is there at least in my understanding.

          • Don W

            So if the Gov’t stuffs the economy up they can filch our savings on their terms to prop up their largesses . The only sector not to suffer when recession hit are the politicians and their bureaucratic mates. Back in the 1930s when people were lining up for soup, the politicians and their mates still lived like kings and did not suffer the hard ships of the ordinary citizens.

          • yossarian

            Well in a sense if the Govt stuffs up the economy they “filch” our savings anyway because the purchasing power of our saved dollars drops, interest rates on loans go up (or loans are called in), inflation increases……..and so on. This is not quite the same thing as haircuts on savings, when oftentimes the cause of the problem may be mostly bad management by the lending institutions, which their depositors get to pay for, and the effect on that situation of Government economic or fiscal mis-management is somewhat indirect and difficult to measure. For example in the sub-prime mortgage collapse in the US some blamed Bill Clinton’s social policies (house ownership for low income purchasers), while others blamed the lenders for such enterprising initiatives as bundling high risk loans and selling them on to others looking for higher returns. Bottom line, always the little guys pay regardless of who stuffed it up.

          • Don W

            I believe you do an honest days work for an honest days pay why should others stake a claim on your earnings when they haven’t contributed in any way to the earnings of that pay. If you , through hard work put in a vegie garden and when all the produce is ready the neighbours turn up when the produce is ready , then take a percentage when they haven’t contributed a thing to the production of those vegies.That seems to be how thing s work now.

          • peterwn

            Which is precisely why the Reserve Bank imposes various controls on the NZ banks including the LVR limit for mortgages. In particular the Aussie owned banks must be structured in such a way as they can function independently if their Aussie owners go belly up (this particularly required significant re-arrangements within Westpac). Hence a ‘haircut’ on deposits would very unlikely be required and would more likely be a deferral rather than a complete loss. It is worth noting that the Aussie banks and their NZ subsidiaries successfully withstood the recent financial turbulence and this saved NZ much bother and suffering.

        • Pete

          Your Kiwiwsaver is ripe for the pickings…just pray Labour don’t get in anytime soon…your hard won KS will be flushed away and you will be lucky to see 20c in the dollar.

          • Don W

            I can see in the future Kiwi saver being directed into the gov’t slush fund and I think pension funds around the world are being used to prop up ailing economies.

      • cows4me

        Not sure about Greece Don, Cyprus has confiscated private savings and there are laws that were introduce by our loving leaders to do the same to us, you better hide the Stil Chainsaw.

        • Don W

          Something Leighton Smith said that Greece had taken 20% of private savings.They would get my still chainsaw , and my still post hole borers and my Hilux over my dead body.

        • D.Dave

          I hope they take a portion of my mortgage……

      • Hard1

        For a start Bonus Bonds explicitly state that you are not guaranteed $1 for your $1.

  • Sally

    So many senseless deaths at this time of the year. The majority would have alcohol involved. Add in water, sun, mates egging on mates equals a recipe for disaster. The end result families mourning lost ones.

    • Wallace Westland

      How come the lowest common denominator here is alcohol? Isn’t is stupidity?
      I’ve done stupid things when I was drinking. When I was sober I could not escape the fact that it was stupid.
      And yep some of those things could have ended badly but due to pure good luck and/or the assistance of good mates, family a random passer by etc. they didn’t.
      Such is life.

  • Murray Smith

    The mall mentality of many city folk sickens me to the core. Shop, shop, shop till they drop. Being a country boy, I see the blatant consumerism as a complete break from reality. Perhaps I’m old fashioned but the mindset of the majority of consumers seems divorced from reality.
    Spending on what one needs only, equates to a richer society. What we have at the moment, is an indebted society, willing to go broke, in order to look good.

    • Wendy

      And because some people have no idea how else to entertain themselves.

    • Nige.

      its a bit like people that eat and eat and eat because theres “nothing else to do”.

      • Murray Smith

        Stop it, you’re making me hungry.

        • Nige.

          i just ate two mr wedge pizza slices, three simply cheese, about a whole bbqed onion, three venison steaks, two speights and a bucket of chicken kickers….fed four sausages to the dog because no one else could fit them in…..and it was better than the flies getting them.

          sorry. you were asking for it.

          • Murray Smith

            Full flies taste best roasted.

    • D.Dave

      I HAD to take Miss and Mrs D Dave to the “Mall” today, to purchase a pressie. It will count as my annual visit. Once a year is all I can stomach. There is not a single shop I wished to peruse. I find them suffocating and totally female orientated. However, I think I wasn’t the most depressed person there. Many of the ones clutching shopping bags looked positively suicidal. I would like to promote a FB page supporting the leveling of all malls and the reinstatement of local shops. It appears I am totally rural in outlook..

      • Aucky

        You’re perfectly normal Dave. I have the misfortune to live almost equidistant from Sylvia Park, 277, Dressmart & St Lukes and I’m proud to say that in thirteen years of residence at our current home I have only visited 277 two or three times and they were solo visits. I have never been to the other malls. Mrs & Miss Aucky know better than to ask me to accompany them. I do my clothes shopping online.

        Mega Mitre Ten & Bunnings? Well, that’s another story.

        • Greg M

          Same here. If you can’t buy power tools, paint or petrol there, I don’t want to go near it.

        • Isherman

          I’ve been employed by a large well known retailer for 20 years, never shopped there. The boss actually works at Bunnings, much more fun plus staff discount..yay..even better. Mostly I spend up at fishing tackle shops, can never have too much tackle, and a good excuse not to ‘waste’ it in malls etc.

    • Hans

      People just love to get milked like a cow, we call it shopping these days

  • Nige.

    Something to help pete get through this period of low news content

  • TonyM

    A bit of excitement today for our unPC family. My wife’s grandmother gave us the late Opa’s slug gun. I used to love plinking with beer cans when I was little, I’m sure our boys will love it too plus an early opportunity to learn how to handle a gun before they get to the more dangerous variety. A good old fashioned spring action one in the original box, don’t know how old :)

    • Watcher

      That’s great Tony, I am taking my middle Grandson to shoot the odd rabbit tomorrow. Safe, rules, sensible and he loves it.

    • Isherman

      If I’m not mistaken, this is the model 61, predecessor of the current B1 model, but otherwise identical, this would be early 80’s. I have the B2 and have had many years use of it. For an $80 odd dollar air rifle it actually does quite well. As long as the breech seal is in good nick, not a hell of a lot else will go wrong with it, and if the seal needs replacing that’s easily done at any firearms or air gun dealer.

  • Gaynor

    We are going away tomorrow, to Hamner Springs, leaving 18year old granddaughter and her boyfriend in charge of the house…..

    • Aucky

      How well do you get on with your insurance company?

      • Gaynor

        Oh crikey I just know I am going to worry …

        • Aucky

          Don’t worry Gaynor……I was only joking. They’ll be as good as gold and these days its way safer than leaving the house empty particularly at this time of the year.

          • Gaynor

            I am sure thry will be ok but I know they are planning something …I just hope it is a little something…and she was only joking when she said ‘watch the news ‘

          • Nige.

            Damn good point. Glass is half full.

      • Wallace Westland

        LOL Behave!

    • cows4me

      They’ll be right as long as the beer fridge is full.

    • Lux

      Years ago my parents went away for weekend away and left my very sensible oldest sister in charge .. of us all.
      They came back to few a surprises !!!!!!!!!!!

      The best one was, when we sitting around the dinner table the next night after they arrived home, and the light I cello-taped back into the socket fell straight into the sponge cake one sister had just put on the table ..

      Lots of laughs ..

      • Greg M

        Was that the weekend you burnt the neighbours house “a little bit down” ?

        • Lux

          Actually, that was after ..

          I’m surprised, I was allowed out at times ..

          • Nige.

            restraining myself…..

      • ex-JAFA

        When I was left alone at the age of 17 for a few weeks, my friends and I got up to as much mischief as was possible considering the district police superintendent lived next door!

    • Wallace Westland

      When I was 12 and at my family friends farm my mate who was 14 would regularly be left in charge of the farm the house and me.
      That meant we milked the house cow moved the sheep to the paddocks his dad said to fed the dogs and did whatever else was on the list.

      At 17 I was often in charge of a farm for a week or so while the boss took his family on holiday.
      It does my head in that somehow today we take great pride and/or fear in the fact that an 18 year old could be left in charge of anything let alone a house?

      How did we get to this point? I should point out that my eldest daughter is turning 14 soon and both my ex wife and I are clear on one thing.
      She is perfectly responsible and capable of looking after herself and her younger sister (for a short period of time all be it) and I don’t give a fat flying fig about the dumb ass law that says she not until she is 14 and neither does her Mother.

      • Nige.

        17…fine.

        19….fine.

        theres just something about that age. 18….not fine.

    • Nige.

      AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      (several slaps)

      Im sure she will be fine.

  • Pete

    Rude as it may be, and uncomfortable as it is, I have noticed the bumbling, bewildered nappy wearing flagship of the good old Aunty Beeb..(BBC) Attenborough has just woken up from his malaise, and realised the UN or National Geographic have dumped some more money into his retirement account, or grandchildren’s trust fund which has meant he has uttered some more nonsense about global warming.

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/david-attenborough-why-humans-could-die-out/story-fnjww010-1227171301676

    Maybe it’s a thinly failed attempt to make up for all the animals he trapped and killed, or shipped off to the zoo’s back in the 60″s.

    Pack him up, and ship him off to Madagascar to stumble about aimlessly for a few million years to become the husky voiced, safari suited Lemur!!

    • Nige.

      he doesn’t believe in god because somewhere there is a boy in africa who has a parasite in his eye….odd. i would have thought that a man so renound as him and so well traveled he would have a more robust defense as to why he is an atheist. i mean fair enough…each to there own but this is a man who has spent years studying gods/sciences creatures great and small…but when asked about belief in god he…talks about a tiny worm? goes straight for the emotion. odd little intelligent man.

      • Pete

        He has been marinated and well soaked for decades in the socialist gravy at the BBC…Many moons ago I used to love watching his doco’s, but over the last few years he has reminded me of Mr Godfrey out of dads Army !!!

  • Hard1

    Today’s Trivia featured the chacma baboon that became a paid signalman, including one beer a week.

    From the Wiki page : In many baboon species, immigrant alpha males often practice infanticide upon arrival to a new troop. By killing unrelated infants, the new male shortens the time until he can mate with the females of the troop. A female with dependent offspring generally does not become sexually receptive until she weans her offspring at around 12 months of age. However, a mother usually becomes sexually receptive shortly after the death of her offspring.[23]

    Does this behaviour seem familiar to anyone ? . It seems to happen every few weeks in NZ. Do these males that main and kill infants actually engage their primate brain without even being aware of what they are doing ?. Too many questions.

    • Cowgirl

      Lions do it too – I’m sure it’s our beast selves acting on primitive instinct.

      • Nige.

        first thing that sprung to my mind too. I personally prefer tigers for that very reason.

        • Cowgirl

          Tigers are my favourite too Nige – they are so beautiful.

    • 1951

      This is a goodie: I would have thought that what we see here is purely & simply jealousy/displacement thing happening. One moment the male has all the attention of the mate then he loses that warmth and affection to the off-spring. Why like this:The male having been raised in a ‘shared’ arrangement ie: the mother/father is there spasmodically who too readily hands responsibility over to grandparent, aunt, cousin and even total strangers. Hence little chance to develop a sense of security from which to grow. Attachment issues become paramount and so often the males that we see acting out are actually with older women. Because of their immature development, they seek someone that will provide a mother figure in their lives rather than a companion.
      If any of my sons at the age of just 18-19 had been pursued by a thirty-something-been-there-done-that-already-wench as Chris Kahui was, we as parents would have most certainly stepped right in there and put and end to it. Where were Kahuis parents when he was at that vulnerable age? (Sorry that is way too brief but hope I got my point across)

      • Don W

        My son is 21 is living with 30 something lady just had their own son while we have our concerns they seem to get on rather well so we are happy for them and we hope it works for them. They don’t need us to tell them what to do just as I never need ed my parents at that age to tell me what to do.

        • 1951

          Oh you are much nicer person than I am Don.

          • Don W

            You are just being a caring and concerned mum 1951, never stop caring. You will be a mum to your kids fore ever but they do grow up and leave the nest and run their own lives. My Dad married my mum when he was 21 . A year or two later as father of one ( I came some time later.) he went to war.

          • 1951

            Our’s have all flown the coup now thank God ;) The difference to what your situation was & that I was trying to portray above is one of stability. In the cases where the male has beaten the partners child (never his own) I believe they have attachment issues due to the upbringing which lacked certainty & security.

          • Don W

            Like the new male Lion that has taken over a pride that hunts down the cubs of the previous male lion and destroys them.

          • 1951

            The lion’s is an act to remove a threat to his line, where as the NZ male is an act to remove competition for attention (ie; love warmth, security)….maybe…?

  • Hard1

    Just in. If you are about to download The Interview…

    “In what seems like an almost never ending saga, 2015 kicks off with a story about The Interview, the hugely controversial movie which pretty much dominated the headlines in the final months of 2014.

    The latest news is that a malicious Android app, which promises users a free download of the movie, is actually an Android Trojan that is stealing bank details and other important data from smartphones, according to researchers from McAfee and the Centre of Advanced Security Research.

    Speaking of the The Interview Android app, security expert Graham Cluley, an independent security expert who works with McAfee, wrote in his blog: “It contains an Android Trojan detected by McAfee products as Android/Badaccents. Android/Badaccents claims to download a copy of The Interview but instead installs a two-stage banking Trojan onto victims’ devices.”

    http://tech.thaivisa.com/fake-interview-android-app-infecting-phones-stealing-bank-details/?utm_source=newsletter-20150102-0728&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

    • johcar

      McAfee discovered it???

      Take a grain of salt and call me in the morning….

  • Richard

    15 years old this punk kid, hmmmm reincarnation is a myth you say?

    • 1951

      Happy New Year Richard, how’s your wee man doing?

      • Nige.

        good call. was thinking myself the same thing today.

    • Isherman

      I’ve heard a bit this kid, his cut of The Beatles “Blackbird” isn’t half bad either..

  • Pete

    Anyone else notice a common theme in the news recently???

    Hint … doom and gloom….crashes, drownings, death’s and fatalities. https://news.google.co.nz/news/section?pz=1&cf=all&ned=nz&topic=n&siidp=2a60baf881d90e153918d36d952497b905b6&ict=ln

    The MSM just love this rubbish. Happy xmas and new year eh!?

    • Sally

      Yahoo the same, their headlines this afternoon. pic

      • Pete

        Obviously the relentless pounding by the MSM of more and more bad news, coupled with Duncan “party boy” Garners highly rated “wear a life jacket” coupled with the NZ Police’s outstandingly successful, well thought through, revenue raising, lets make law abiding citizens, criminals after 1.12.2014 campaign is working eh!

    • david

      The headline in the horrid with the photo of Attenborough says

      “If we don’t do something, we will starve”

      Naturalist Sir David Attenborough says global leaders are in denial about the dangers of climate change and how humans are affecting the Earth.

      Read the headline and it looks like he thinks climate change will lead to starvation. But read the article, and they are quite different quotes. The starvation is going to come from overpopulation, not climate change.

      • shykiwibloke

        Yet they never ask David Bellamy for his opinion since he pointed out the flaws in the global alarmists theories re CO2 and plants…

        • david

          True. but Bellamy’s fall from grace had nothing to do with his scepticism. Yeah right.

  • Don W

    He was wronged. And it is a great shame.

  • Isherman

    Well enjoy the weekend anyone who’s back to the grind Monday, I’ve worked through this year, gonna hit the water early on the morrow for an over-nighter, going to go and see whats happening in the outer Gulf, haven’t been out for a few weeks and I feel like I’m getting fishing withdrawl.

    • Pluto

      We still gettin our limits out of Raglan Isherman tho takes a while sometimes. Crays goin good though, lots of gurnard too

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