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  • George

    There was an excellent column in the NZ Herald today by Robyn Yousef. “Problems the Third World would love to have”.
    I will quote the last three paragraphs.
    “Often it takes an outsider to make us truly appreciate our own good fortune. We had a Syrian businessman staying with us recently. He now lives in China and travels the world extensively for his very successful food exporting business. It is the man’s dream to retire in NZ”.
    “We were standing outside our brick ‘n’ tile on what I thought was a pretty humdrum Auckland day when the sun wasn’t even shining. I’ll always remember what he said, rather wistfully: “Really, you live in paradise here”.
    “And we do. So let’s forget those frivolous First World problems – plenty of other people would love to have them”.
    So all you Socialist and MSM take note. Your motivation to denigrate all that is positive about our country and its leadership is falling on deaf ears. How about embracing all that is fantastic about our small country or, if that is too demanding, just give us a break from your self inflicted gloom.

    • johcar

      If the MSM gave up being negative, what would we have to rail about on this blog?

      Remember, Cam has a SpanishBride and daughter to support!!

      And I think even Pete gets paid a few shekels….

    • yossarian

      What we describe as MSM is really a collection of not very good and not very experienced reporters/journalists, with a few fossils (I am think Barry Soper here) whose political inclinations overly influence their world view. I don’t think there’s much to fear among that shower, more the Socislist and Socialist/Greenie types who want to reinvent the country according to their own misguided idealism. Not an ounce of rationality among them.
      Edit: world view

  • HunuaRanger

    With today’s latest Islamist terrorist attack in France and the multitude of similar attacks that have preceded it all around the world, when will the media stop insisting that the perpetrators do not and did not represent Islam, when such attacks are thoroughly promoted and sanctified by the Qu’ran and generally supported by your average “Moderate” Muslim who believe a cartoon can be a insult to Mohammed?

    • Michael_l_c

      I am still waiting for the muslim leaders to loudly condemn the murderers. Then they can instruct their followers they should inform the police of suspicious happenings/people.

      • cows4me

        That’s what it boils down to Micheal.

      • Gaynor

        Absolutely, this is the Only way that terrorism can be stopped . It is not us NZer’s who see the radicalisation going on or the potential jihadist ..it is the ordinary peace loving Moslem who will see/hear a hint of it and MUST report it . If they will not then we will see more and much closer to home.

  • Alright

    HunuaRanger: watch this it (should) make your heart miss a beat and exercise your tear ducts….

    • mommadog

      Thanks. I have only had time to watch half and will come back to watch the rest. Very powerful speech. I would like to read one of her books.

      • Alright

        …and she is very brave if you think about it.

        • mommadog

          Very. She was a target as a child and may well be a target still but she can teach us all how to stand strong and not to give into terrorists.

    • Steve (North Shore)

      Gabriel is talking about a cancer that the Politicians can not see

      • mommadog

        cant see or don’t want to see. She talks about how the problem is ignored by politicians as it is difficult to deal with. However it can no longer be ignored.

        • OneTrack

          Don’t want to see. It conflicts with their ideology.

    • jude

      A cancer of Islamic barbarism ! A very apt description, the fact they” dress” as different entities is also very interesting.
      I hope many more view this clip!
      The goal of extremists ,to eliminate Western civilization, should be plain for all Western Governments to see!
      A backbone is required from all Western Governments.
      The left wing in this country show they lack the necessary stamina to deal with this very real threat,from extremists.

      • colin herbertson

        It’s like the 1930’s all over again,the governments of europe are full of appeasing Chamberlins who are as scared of islamofascists as they were of nazis. think peace in our time and letting them get away with more and more until it’s too late

        • jude

          I agree. Once the borders are opened and immigrants allowed in, it is very hard to undo !
          Stricter immigration policies are needed.That is a short term solution. The issue is the people who convert and become radicalised in their own countries.
          That , I feel is where you need governments with the ability to monitor its own citizens. i.e the GCSB is actually a start for what is actually needed

        • Wasapilot

          I was thinking exactly the same thing. Swap chamberlain for Angela Merkel and you have a perfect mirror image of history potentially repeating itself.

          • colin herbertson

            seeing the pegida movement gathering momentum in spite of efforts to discredit them it strikes me as ironic that the enemiy of our fathers and grandfathers may hopefully lead the fight back to this latest threat to western civilisation

  • mommadog

    Haven’t heard from Russel and the Greens today. They probably figured out this is not a good time to say it was a set up so John Key can change our spying laws. I’m going to assume silence means they realise they have a hard road ahead of them if they think the public is going to support the greens going against the government and trying to dumb down our security laws. Or silence means he is on a beach somewhere being green and totally oblivious of what is happening in the world,

    • ex-JAFA

      Rusty doesn’t have to be on a beach to be oblivious.

    • KGB

      Looking at his colour I don’t think he does the beach. Or fresh air.

    • Chris EM

      mommadog, were you at Braithwaite Park this morning?

      • mommadog

        yes me and Beagle went for a walk

        • Chris EM

          Noticed the writing on the car. I was there with Lab and Beardie/Huntaway. You may have heard him.

    • Reaper

      Probably with his head stuck in the sand.

    • cows4me

      He’s probably sitting in a fruit tree, usually where you find Aussie pests.

      • Aucky

        With the other fruitbats.

    • Nige.

      with all their theories being proven wrong i guess theres not a lot to say.

      Hey imagine if there were a journalist out there who would ASK HIM some questions/his opinion rather than just give him air any old time he rocks up to a repeater whenever HE feels like he has something to say!?

      i kmow. im living in a dream world.

      • Rick H

        “Wussel – Do You Stand by all your statements?”

  • yossarian

    National Radio didn’t trot out Paul Buchanan, #1 security expert, either. The Morning Report crew must be still on leave.

    • Carl

      I think Radio live did.

    • Isherman

      ZB might of this morning if I heard correctly.

    • pisces8284 .

      Paul Buchanan is looking a bit rough lately, hope he’s OK

    • caochladh

      My dog knows more about security than Buchanan.

  • Isherman

    This one because in a free society, we can. Feel free to be offended.

  • jude

    youtube clip doing the rounds on Facebook:)

    • Chris EM

      Can’t watch it, Jude, the picture goes funny when I press play. Don’t know if it’s just me.

      • jude

        oh no. it plays for me.
        My daughter pointed it out.
        Google :The Office Hobbit
        I think it will show the clip there.

  • CheesyEarWax

    I wish the MSM stop referring the Paris slaughter as an attack on freedom of speech and tell it like it is. It was an attack on western society by slaughtering innocent defenceless people, freedom of speech is just one of many western society’s values that Islam fundamentalists have killed to get rid off.

    • Cadwallader

      This is an act to open up a war as surely as the Pearl Harbour bombings were.

  • Cadwallader

    I put a post in recently enquiring whether anyone here has heard a rumour that the 1960s TV show The Prisoner was to be made into a film? It is particularly apposite given surveillance in NZ is presently being debated. My post seems to have evaporated. So I repeat my enquiry.

    • colin herbertson

      i don’t know about a movie but an american remake was on tv not long ago, it was crap

      • Cadwallader

        The rumour is that 1990’s “most beautiful man in the world” is producing a film based on the series. People Magazine in 1990 listed the 50 most beautiful people in the world and Roland Gift was the highest ranking male.

    • pisces8284 .

      This might job people’s memories

      • Old Man, Torbay.

        I replied to the post you put up one hour ago. It was British and a brilliant series.

        • caochladh

          I got the 35th Anniversary boxed set of DVD’s for a birthday a bunch of years ago. Must get them out now that the memory has been jogged.

          • Cadwallader

            See my reply to Colin Herbertson move. Thanks so much.

    • colin herbertson

      it’s a classic for sure, it’s all on you tube if you’re feeling nostalgic

      • Cadwallader

        Thanks. It starred Patrick McGoohan (Dangerman) who was entrapped in a resort for a crime of which he had no recollection. (Unlike KDC who is entrapped in Coatsville for a crime he denies.) I gave up TV in the 1980s so am unsure whether it has been repeated.)

    • Win

      This takes me back. I remember the committee saying “we want information” and the bubble that would chase anyone escaping. Part of it was filmed in Portmerion in Wales.

  • Old Man, Torbay.

    As I recall he had been working for his governement as some sort of intelligence operative. He wanted out, to retire, and that’s why he was sent to the resort, in reality a prison.

    • Ratchette

      Goodle ‘images for portmeirion’ for a great assortment of photos.
      To answer your question, no, I have not heard of a forthcoming film.

      • Cadwallader

        NB by response to Colin Herbertson above. Given surveillance is open to debate in NZ at the moment this series may prove to be highly salient.

  • Dave

    Just found out the baby seriously injured in Christchurch has died from here injuries, and something is not right, this from stuff……

    The baby was taken to the hospital on Tuesday by her regular babysitter, with help from her neighbour. ……………. and ……….. Yesterday, police examined two properties – the home of the baby’s parents and a flat in Worcester St, Linwood. ………………….. and …………… Investigators were yet to determine where the baby was injured.

    So, all is not as it might have seemed, no doubt the truth will come out, I only hope everyone is talking and cooperating with police, unlike the majority of other child murders. RIP little one.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/64748022/Baby-girl-with-unexplained-injuries-dies

  • intelligentes candida diva

    Salman Rusdie has spoken today of terrorist killings in Paris. The quote I like best is
    “….This religious totalitarianism has caused a deadly mutation in the heart of Islam and we see the tragic consequences in Paris today….” 

    The full source
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2900976/Salman-Rushdie-condemns-Charlie-Hebdo-attack-sign-deadly-mutation-heart-Islam.html

    • Moonroof

      Thankyou, insightful, and the link made for informative reading..

  • pidge

    Scott Adams (Dilbert Creator) has a constructive post on the
    “control of wealth” by the top 0.1% in the USA http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/words_versus_reason.

    • BW_Lord

      That was interesting reading.

  • Wendy

    A little melancholy tonight

  • Dave

    Breaking and trending in Aussie, man tries to enter parliment with a knife.

    From the Courier mail…… ACT and AFP responded to the man after they saw he had a knife about 12.30pm. “Attending officers began a de-escalation negotiation process with the man,” ACT Policing said in a statement. “During the de-escalation negotiation process, the man was tasered as he failed to relinquish the knife.” He has now been taken into custody. The man was arrested outside the Ministerial entrance of Parliament House and led into a police van.

    Um, clearly a few cans sort of a six pack, parliment is not in session, not a politician to be found ATM, they are mostly away on holidays.

    NOTE THE OFFICER IN BLACK AND HIS WEAPON!!! Not hesitation here, no brick bats from labour, pose a threat and you will be dealt with.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/security-scare-at-parliament-house-in-canberra-as-knife-wielding-man-arrested/story-fnihslxi-1227178288117

    • MaryLou

      Not, apparently, a terrorist attack??

      • Dave

        Not being labelled as a terrorist attackyet, and just found this at the bottom of a story on News.com.au

        Police said “there are no national security concerns regarding this incident.”

    • Nige.

      lets hope he gets several years in the slamer rather that a hug and a pat on his head before sending him off to a state house to live in while he thinks about what he has done.

      re parliment not sitting; clearly not a big fan of homework.

  • cows4me

    Something trivial for the moderators. Was watching the stupid box the other night. There was a plethora of luminaries on Face TV discussing the poor state of NZ rivers and a lot of discussion on how the dirty filthy dairy farmers need to be brought to heel and pay for their pollution. The Aussie pest was doing his utmost to drive a wooden stake into farming. Yeah yeah heard it all before, usual dribble from the usual crap artists. Anyhow only managed to see the last few minutes of this gripping dialog of the dispossessed and the credits came up. The program I had being watching was called “All about Auckland”. It about sums it up for me, a program about Auckland, pointing the finger at some other part of the country. Talk about smoke and mirrors.

    • Jafarma

      And I’ll bet there was no mention of this “‘One Year On’, the first annual Sustainable Dairying Water Accord report released this month, reported that farmers have stepped up to the challenge of managing their impacts on New
      Zealand’s waterways, making good progress on stock exclusion, effluent management and riparian planting.”

    • Michelle

      and the poor luvvies are going to their baches and finding the water is polluted from their septic tanks and there is not a cow in sight to blame but that’s ok

      some of the east coast beaches up here have signs saying no swimming and there was a track we walked from Waipu Cove we walked with others and they were admiring the nice big houses and wondering why they were walking through wet patches that were heading to the sea, it was the septic tank overflow

  • Sally

    Our opposition leader’s thought for the day.
    And he wants to stop Key and Cam texting each other. So much for freedom of speech

    • Wendy

      That is gold Sally. If there is a God this will come back to bite him on the bottom over and over and over.

      • Sally

        This is one person who will never ever get my vote. Absolutely no decorum – not PM material. Wonder if he realised his twitter account is wide open for all to see.

        • grumpy

          Bugger! How is he going to flood the country with potential Labour voters now!

        • Cadwallader

          He strikes me as an embittered old public servant…hang-on…that’s what he is!

    • Reaper

      Seems he’s sitting there arguing with anybody & everybody. He really is an angry Little man.

      • Isherman

        Anybody that will listen you mean…

    • Cadwallader

      Cam a sociopath??? Well, to quote my grandmother, a tough old Boer if ever there was one…”It takes one to know one!”

    • Dave

      Its angry Andy’s “Little” man syndrome coming out, and its Andrew who is a Psychopath.

      noun

      1. a person with a psychopathic personality, which manifests as amoral and
      antisocial behaviour, lack of ability to love or establish meaningful personal
      relationships, extreme egocentricity, failure to learn from experience, etc.

      I say “Little” as he does seem to suffer from Little man’s
      syndrome as well, ….. look at me, look at me……. and then Cam’s
      popularity, hundreds of thousands of people come here voluntarily and donate to hear what Cam writes, whereas Little Andy can’t even get elected in New
      Plymouth, TWICE (um, that’s a failure to learn from experience Andrew)!!!

    • Nirvana10

      Notice that he states: ‘If we fear freedom of …religion’ as though this is all somehow about an attack on ISLAM! This is a mealy-mouthed piece of appeasing gibberish. Absolutely meaningless bunch of words that are supposed to make sense yet convey nothing whatsoever.

    • Nige.

      only took 3 hours of intensive speach writting to get the perfect balance of leftie sensitive dribble that tiptoes around the obvious thing which needs to be said.

      “killing” makes it sound like an unfortunate accident. clinical mass murder would be more accurate.

  • HSV325

    Something for you Aussie Muscle Car lovers out there. I’d give my left ball to own that XA GT.
    http://www.shannons.com.au/club/video/man-and-machine-season-1-episode-2/

    • Dave

      My preference.

      http://www.shannons.com.au/club/enthusiasts/Spook/garage/1974-alfa-romeo-montreal/

      Can’t offer my left one, surgeon took that quite a while ago!

      • Captain Darling

        Or check out this rare Citroen with a Maserati engine.
        http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/citroen/auction-780439131.htm

        • Moonroof

          It came from Mars. Fab design study, Beautiful. Drive it, yes, keep it on the road down here, not quite.

      • Moonroof

        There’s no Alfa like an old(er) Alfa. Would rather like a Guilia Sprint though, budget doesn’t run to a 64 Maserati Sebring…

        • Dave

          Have had a few Alfas, sadly not a Montreal, a dear friend still has her AlfaSud 33 cloverfeaf, another wonderful car, handling and power streets ahead of anything else in its time.

    • Nige.

      hey would you (or anyone) recomend shannons for selling restored vintage cars? say a 1917 dodge touring car?

      where else is a reliable place to sell internationally?

      • Wendy
      • I.M Bach

        What’s wrong with ebay? A mate of mine just sold his 57 Fairlane in two days.

        • Wahbonnah

          Was it as is, where is, on his front lawn???

          • I.M Bach

            As a matter of fact it was on his back lawn and will be shipped on Monday right across Australia. The new owner has only the pictures I took to go by and a short vid’ made on a phone. Shame it had to go and I would like to have bought it myself but we have other priorities at the moment.

      • HSV325

        Turners run classic car auctions here periodically however most buyers want a bargin. I’d do some research on the net to see if anything similar has sold in the last 5 years to get an idea of value. As Wendy says below Bonhams are reputable

  • pisces8284 .

    Who is that woman with the dreadful voice at the tennis? Wah Wah Wah

    • Hard1

      She’s married to the golf guy…

      • pisces8284 .

        Poor golf guy….

        • I.M Bach

          I bet he’s damned good at golf. (Plenty of time on the greens etc to escape the wah wah wah.)

  • intelligentes candida diva

    Rage against the machine.
    Freedom of expression was challenged today, as the world gets to know its enemy a little more…. Take the power back France, as we all grieve for your strong advocates of freedom of expression.

    rage against the machine – Take the power back: http://youtu.be/APmUWC8S1_M

  • grumpy

    ….and, of course, these two murderous Islamic terrorists were registered gun owners and walked into the local gun shop and bought their AK47s over the counter?

    Wait for the usual calls to clamp down on firearm ownership for law abiding people….

    • Nige.

      i do wonder what would happen during these terrorist attacks, if some one who saw had a gun and ended up saving the day. what would the headline be?

      • grumpy

        Very good point, perhaps the answer s in 2 parts?
        1. Will there be a terrorist attack in the USA, in a state that allows concealed carry? I doubt it.
        2. In NZ, AUS and GB, what would the chances be, if your scenario unfolded, that the “hero” would be arrested on firearms charges?

        • Nige.

          Often being a hero is to sacrifice ones own life. If that sacrifices ends up being a life being penalized by the community you were protecting then you really truly would he a hero.

          There’s a word for that dilemma I’m sure.

          • grumpy

            There is, it is actually 2 words.
            1. Political
            2. Correctness

          • Alright

            Yep. Our lawmakers spend more time worrying about and protecting Baboons (and other species that we personify) than we, the real deal.

        • Mark

          Ref#2,I have had this discussion.The consensus is that you would as usual after acting in self defense be financially crippled.
          That however would be the least of your problems,you would have been identified by the MSM,your friends & family would have been ID’d.
          You would have any firearms available to you removed & you would be left with zero protection.
          I have thought about what I would do,it is the first part of a successful defense to an attack.

          • peterwn

            A police officer declined to pull the trigger at an early stage of the Aramoana massacre because he did not consider people to be in immediate danger. His superiors did not criticise his judgment. If he had pulled the trigger and saved lives he would have been subject to the most searching inquiry. In particular no one would have known that he had saved lives.

            In the hypothetical case the words ‘and saved 200 lives’ may not have been written as no one may have known if he had actually saved any lives.

          • Mark

            Peter,please understand that as there is no option for a private reply to you I am trying to choose my words very carefully.
            I was living in Dunedin at that time & have met & shot with that officer.I wish to make it clear that I am in no way speaking for him.
            He was a good man faced with a tough call.A call that would have been made tougher due to the second guessing that would have come from him taking the shot he had available & was capable of making. It is my understanding that he did not know Sgt Stu Guthrie was dead when he had the shot. Also no further deaths of civilians occurred after he did not take the shot.

            At that time no Police officer who shot an offender had carried on their career in the Police force.
            That such second guessing has such an impact should be a source of shame to members of his command structure & those that charged him with protecting the public.
            Things have changed,but likely not quite enough.

            It should be noted that I am not for one moment suggesting that inquiries into Police shootings should not take place.

          • peterwn

            I appreciate and agree with all your sentiments. I remember the Ranfurly (or that general incident) where after a police officer shot an offender the Police and Crown Law took ages to investigate and decide whether to lay a homicide charge, and fortunately decided not to. There would have been a public uproar otherwise. Seemed the Police sharpened up their policies after that and exonerated Constable ‘A’ within a few days, although he still had a harrowing private prosecution to go through, but seemed to have forgotten this when that Auckland pharmacist unwittingly killed an intruder in his shop with his bare hands (IMO the Police and Crown Law could have exonerated him within a few days if they had put their mind to it).

            Fortunately, it seems the self defence/ defence of others defence cannot be displaced because the weapon involved was unlawfully possessed at the time, but I fear that prosecutors could try and whittle away the defence over time, although fortunately this does not seem to be happening.

            In the hypothetical example, a way out would be for the politicians to recommend the exercise of the Royal prerogative of mercy re any prospective firearms charges, but they would probably not have the gumption to do this.

          • Mark

            “cannot be displaced because the weapon involved was unlawfully possessed at the time.”
            The courts have been pretty fair on this,but the Police have still removed firearms licences from those who act in self defence & used the “free” services of Crown Law to put that person thru the financial mill again to get them back.

            How much justice can you afford?

      • Alright

        “Bystander Arrested for Killing Terrorist and Saving 200 Lives.”

  • DemocKot

    Found on internet.

    • Moonroof

      Following a philosophy is one thing, killing them that disagree, and demanding
      the annihilation of an entire race and country (Israel), that’s something else.
      Something truly evil.
      Little steps yet, but the indolent west may just wake up one day soon and do something about religious fascism.

  • letrec
    • Dave

      I highly reccomend this short video, its very very powerful, thanks for sharing letrec !

    • TonyM

      Ha ah age and experience wins the day….

    • Alright

      The female terrorist is ugliness personified.

    • spanishbride

      That was chilling viewing. Like many Muslims she has been raised to HATE the Jewish people. She tried to cover up her hate but he cleverly allowed her to reveal it. If I had been in that University theater when I was at University I would have felt the urge to run over to her, rip her hijab from her head and stomp on it. I would then have spat at her and told her how much she disgusted me.I would then have made it my mission to get her terrorist supporting
      organisation kicked off campus.

      • letrec

        But that would not be PC.If you tried to carry out your mission you would be the one removed from campus.The worlds gone mad

        • spanishbride

          Exactly, I would have been seen as the threat even though she was the one who stood there in front of everyone and stated that she supported the genocide of him and everyone in Israel. Her hate was so cold and she smiled with it. It was the most chilling thing I have ever seen. I guess that is the face of Fanaticism, the true face of Islam.

      • Alright

        SB he completely wrecked her. But do you think she got it? I don’t. She was then, and is no doubt still now, just mad. And like most mad people, dangerous.

        • spanishbride

          I am a huge fan of hers, she is Lebanese like my Nana. I have written about her before on the Blog.

  • Gaynor
    • TonyM

      I’m not so sure … A high percentage of the “religion of peace” seem to be intent on killing us infidels.

      Imagine if Christians were so easily offended, just think of some of the swear words that could be considered offensive and if Christians murdered people because of this. The Muslims are absolute nutters and I wish we would lose the all religions are equal type comparisons like Tom Scott mentions.

      Note that middle European history has been a fight against Muslims not so long ago and it seems the way it’s going that way again

    • Alright

      …yes, and Tom Scott is a great cartoonist/journalist and a great New Zealander.

      • Cadwallader

        …and a leftie apologist!

        • Alright

          I know him personally. He’s not an apologist for any ideology – let alone the left. Proof you are wrong? Tom got very offside with NZ’s most famous communist – Muldoon.

  • caochladh
  • MaryLou

    Just received this by email, so can’t vouch for any authenticity:

    DON’T YOU JUST LOVE THE BRILLIANT MIND THAT CAN THINK UP SUCH A SIMPLE BUT EFFECTIVE SECURITY SYSTEM???
    What a simple and brilliant idea! I particularly like the ‘spare’ seat announcement!! Maybe we should use it…

    TEL AVIV, Israel – The Israelis are developing an airport security device that eliminates the privacy concerns that come with full-body scanners.
    It’s an armoured booth you step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have on your person.

    Israel sees this as a win-win situation for everyone, with none of this crap about racial profiling.
    It will also eliminate the costs of long and expensive trials.

    You’re in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter, an announcement:

    “Attention to all standby passengers, El Al is pleased to announce a seat available on flight 670 to London . Shalom!”

    EDIT: Ok, so no authenticity…

    • Alright

      Thanks ML. I nearly had a bladder issue while reading it.

      I want this this system at every airport I go through!!!.

    • taurangaruru

      Fantastic concept but they will need at least one spare machine to use while they clear the “flying mince” from the one that detonated. Otherwise imaging the queues..

      • MaryLou

        Ever watch Home Improvements? Remember the self cleaning kitchen?

  • Isherman

    Female police officer critically wounded in today’s terrorist attack in Paris has now died. Awaiting official confirmation from French Police.

    • MaryLou

      That’s incredibly tragic. Was she one of the twelve, or does that make it thirteen?

      • Isherman

        Second separate incident, not clear at this stage if related to the earlier attack on the Satirical Magazine. Also reports of an explosion near a mosque just coming through BBC in the last few minutes.

        • MaryLou

          Oh ok turned BBC on now…

  • MaryLou

    Jude – if you’re around, need some advice. Grabbed a sparrow off the cat yesterday, and despite either a broken wing or leg (or both) and goodness knows what else, is still dragging itself around inside my washing basket, but in obvious pain. Do I keep giving it seed and water, or take a merciful approach? Can it heal?

    • RockinBob625

      Give it back to the cat. Swift ending for the bird, and one less meal to find for puss!

      • MaryLou

        OK. You’re not Jude. I was looking for compassionate :)

      • MaryLou

        And beside – have you ever see a cat provide a swift ending? Seems they really prefer slow and drawn out…

        • RockinBob625

          Give the bird mercy please. “Sinice yesterday” is the key phrase in your statement. Use whichever method pleases you.

          I don’t like fishermen who catch, only to release. Seems like small torture to me. Same with the cat, it caught the bird, it should eat it cause I certainly don’t want it.

          Peace.

          • MaryLou

            I think your right. But would be really sad to do, if it can heal – Jude is the “bird-whisperer”, figured she’d know straight off the bat…

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    • MaryLou

      Very good! Cats do have their good points – when they’re not killing stuff

      • Alright

        This Puddy Tat looks very much like ours. But she has no appetite for killing much stuff. Too lazy. The last thing she bought home was a mouse. I had no idea what to do when it parked up behind the fridge. Mrs Alright did and managed to chase the wee thing out of the house.

        What would I do about your bird dilemma? I’d defer to Mrs Alright!!!

        • MaryLou

          I think RockinBob has it right. Except if it is still alive in the morning, I’ll take it to the vet for another opinion!

      • Mags

        I wish my cats would kill the overprotective pair of blackbirds that are driving me nuts with chirping/dive bombing me on the deck as they protect their nest. It’s been a month now and my patience is wearing thin with them. I do wonder if the cats are playing the long game though. If not I’ll be very disappointed in these two felines.

        • MaryLou

          That’ll be exactly what your cats are doing. Much easier to catch the babies on their first test flights. However, it takes a brave cat to take on blackbirds, their divebombing has driven my cat back inside on many occasions!

          Edit plural cats

          • Mags

            The birds chase the cats along the deck. I thought the birds might die of heart failure as they chirp for long periods of the day. They can see the cats inside behind the big windows but don’t recognize the barrier. Their stress hormones must be at an all time high. I think I might get a water gun to skirt at them when they dive bomb me.

          • MaryLou

            LOL – good luck with that. They are fast-moving targets, though…

          • Dave

            Our skinny “runt of the litter” cat is the avid hunter, his fav spot is under the birdbath waiting for an unsuspecting dove or blackbird and then he catches them. We know he catches them, as all we find are the wings, feet and a few feathers. As long as he leaves the Manakins, lorikeets etc alone, we can tolerate the rest.

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