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  • conwaycaptain

    Seeing the cartoon in todays Horrid have they now turned against Lyin’ Lecherous Loopy Len??

  • Korau

    Word of the day

    sophist (noun) – One who makes clever, but unsound arguments.

    Source : http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sophist

    Etymology : From Latin sophista, from Greek sophistes (sage), from sophos (clever). Earliest documented use: 1542. In ancient Greece, Sophists were philosophers and teachers known for their subtle, but fallacious reasoning.

  • George

    What is it about trees? Many nickers are twisted because six pohutukawa trees are to be removed to make way for an motorway on ramp. So what! They’re just trees, they’re not an endangered species nor are they of any value. Why not just plant six more at a more convenient site? I wonder how many trees, shrubs and weeds will be destroyed if Len’s train set is built? So many questions and so few answers. I guess the only solution for me is to ring Gareth Morgan or a celebrity. They have answers for everything!

    • Wheninrome

      Pohutukawa grow literally like weeds and are very quick to grow to a reasonable height. They just need possum protection.

      • Quinton Hogg

        Exactly.
        Those Pohutukawa are self sown and will be no great loss when removed.
        Something else will replace them.

      • HR

        Do they grow in clay? I was thinking of planting some down the back of our property and was told they will. Any other suggestion would be welcome

        • Wheninrome

          They grow in poor coastal soil, so clay shouldn’t be a problem, drainage might be only issue.

          • Quinton Hogg

            and cleaning up after them as the bloody things leave a hell of a mess.

      • LesleyNZ

        Yes – I get fed up with them seeding in my outdoor plant containers/pots and in my garden. They seed like weeds.

      • Aucky

        Rats of the forest and a pain in the proverbial in urban locations because their invasive root systems block the drains & sewage pipes.

    • Hughesy

      I went past the trees in question yesterday. They do nothing for the area and aren’t great examples of pohutakawas for mine. They’re also clearly introduced/planted to that location. Especially for a coastal tree. That area of roading needs sorting as its a massive bottleneck. Especially on weekends. Which also contests the public transport through that area.

      Off with their heads!

      • Cadwallader

        Pohutukawas do not make good street trees. They flower for about 10 days or so each year when most of us are out of town on holiday and for the rest of the year look grey and sombre. I prefer Euro deciduous trees in avenues, i.e. London Plane, but because they aren’t natives the trend with Councils is to avoid them. The deciduous trees can look good even without leaves against a bright blue winter sky.

        • Mags

          Had a huge hallyballou years ago In Palmy when the plane trees down Fitzherbert Ave were to be cut down for road widening. Students played a great capping prank starting up a chainsaw and staging the removal of the trees just out side the then mayors house who lived on the Ave. He was well pranked.
          Anyway they were eventually cut down and the road widened. Looks great. You can’t even tell as new trees have replaced.

          • Cadwallader

            It may look great but Palmy never needed a 4 lane road there. A second access/bridge was the obvious solution but PNCC couldn’t convince Tranzit to pay for it.

          • Mags

            Yep. You’re probably right. Amazing that how we have one bridge over the Manawatu River and Wanganui has heaps. There used to be hold ups getting to an from to Massey university in the morning and night but haven’t done that jaunt for a long time. Probably also more pressure from housing developments out of town. It would be interesting to know when their cost benefit calculations swing in favour of building another bridge.

          • Dave

            Yes, I have been in those holdups in the morning, and the afternoon, peak time can range from 7.59 am to 8.01 am, and 4.31 pm to a terrible 4.35 pm. But I agree a new bridge is needed, especially with all the development in Summerhill, and Aokatere. In terms of the comparison to Wanganui, it was a divided city, almost 50/50 on each side of the river as opposed to Palmie at approx.90/10. Wanganui was more prosperous 30 to 40 years ago, but it’s being going backwards faster than the labour party and unlikely to recover – ever. The population is ageing and becoming slightly less skilled every 5 to 10 years, the average income is in decline, to me its almost terminal.

            interesting article, see stats on pages 15 & 16.

            http://www.stats.govt.nz/~/media/Statistics/browse-categories/people-and-communities/geographic-areas/urban-rural-profile/maps/manuwatu-wanganui.pdf

        • wooted

          You wouldn’t like deciduous trees if you knew how much it cost to sweep the channels and clear cesspits every year. Give me deep rooted evergreens any day. Magnolias are a good example as they don’t damage footpaths roads or drains.

      • LesleyNZ

        Those who don’t want the trees gone would prefer you to ride a bike so they don’t care about the needs of motorists.

    • Pete

      We were just discussing here at work the list of people the media run to for comment on anything, we had Morgan, also, any green party member, especially that Genter woman, Robyn Malcom, the Zena woman, Helen Kelly and Bryce Edwards….just looking at the names you know your not going to get anything positive said by them. have I missed any..?

      • Cadwallader

        I don’t suppose they asked Cam? The list you have made shows many things about the NZ media. They turn to non-expert big noters and Lefties rather than to anyone who may have even a tiny piece of knowledge about the issue. The msm is a decrepit waste of space.

      • OneTrack

        The media ring their friends when they need a sound bite. That way they can arrange to meet for lunch at the same time.

    • la la land

      I heard David Shearer talking to Mike Hosking about those Pohutakawa – in all honesty it didnt really sound that hard to save them – and they are pretty as well as having been planted on arbor day by the community in the 1930s. Traffic planners are smart – but they are not the be all and end all of great design. Maybe they should be taking a second look at this – if they really can keep them there with no extra cost then why wouldnt you? Its very typical of traffic planners to raze anything within 100m without even really lloking at WHAT is being razed.

      • Lance Ralph

        Trees are the most renewable of resources, those who manage the resource should understand their obligation to keep new generations of trees developing – so that the loss of more mature specimens does not (encourage protesters overmuch) leave too big a hole in the landscape.

        What would trouble me the most and what I suspect may very well happen is that some of the pohutukawa will be transplanted as appeasement to the protesters. Cost of transplanting? perhaps $50,000.00 per tree given the difficult location and the very fractured and rocky soil. Likelihood of success? Any transplanted tree would be likely to go into suspended animation for some years. What a way to spend money.

        We did better with trees before the culture of protest and activism and before lunatic groups involved themselves in such matters. I am interested to learn from you that the subject pohutukawa were planted in 1930. They would never have been sanctioned by authorities in more recent times. The Franklin Road plane trees are reckoned to have been planted in the late 19th century. Such an outcome would have been impossible since about 1970’s when arborists came onto the scene.

  • Wheninrome

    What a year National could have.
    They could start with clearing the decks with the rubbish shouted by the left during electioneering i.e. The Poor Mums and Dads investors who were loosing money right left and centre on the power companies. Didn’t that turn out a fizzer.
    So far everything (almost) I can think of that the left said was bad has turned out the complete opposite.
    Forget housing, because NZ has been going along so well people who left before the previous election have returned, a “bad” result of something “good”, hence housing pressure.
    People want to be here should we not celebrate.

    • steve and monique

      So going by what you have said, the way to sort out the housing problems is to have Labour/lefties in power. Everyone would leave, so no problems.

      • Wheninrome

        Just that difficulty with last person and light bulb, hang on power prices would be so high no one would be turning on any lights.

      • OneTrack

        But then there would be permanent traffic jams on the way to the airport.

        • Wheninrome

          Only at the initial panic.

    • Bryan

      the drop in petrol prices of about 50 cents a litre so a saving of 20.00 for a 40 litre top up is being noticed by a lot of families suddenly they are having 20.00 extra for a treat meal or a surprise for the kids so 20 x 52 that’s 1040 extra plus from july the free drs for under 13yrs will probally give most famiies another 1000.00 back to spend on other things so almost like a 10% tax cut

      • Cadwallader

        Better yet, the families you refer to ought put $20 in a jar each week. Then next summer put it towards a really good holiday or something which all the family crave.
        In 2008 JK stated he wanted us to catch-up with OZ. I think he’s been successful, yet the Left see it as a disaster that we have people coming here to live because of a housing shortage (in some areas!) These Lefties would moan if $$$$ fell out of the sky.

      • taurangaruru

        Drop in Government tax take via GST on fuel will have to be recouped somewhere, be interesting to see what “mechanism” is used to rebalance the books

  • Lord Evans

    One of my favourite dog breeds, very smart!

    • Pete

      Ive got 2, they also have the red gene like the one in the pic.

      • Dave

        You have a socialist labour loving Collie ?

    • Murray Smith

      No more ?

      • Lord Evans

        I have a good friend who has 3 border collies on his dairy cow breeding farm. They are a most entertaining breed, sometimes naughty, but always loveable.

  • Pete

    Who is this Duck Envy? anybody know?

    • pisces8284 .

      Judging by his twitter feed, just someone who talk to himself a lot

    • HR

      Seems to be more of a muppet than a duck

    • OneTrack

      At a wild guess, just another nasty lefty. How do they have so many of them? Is it the envy that they can’t handle?

    • minnie

      Nope but I have bought a cap because of him haha

  • Quinton Hogg

    Righto, listen up!
    AC is calling for submissions on it’s proposed budget and how the costs are to be funded.
    For those oilers who live in Auckland it is incumbent on you to make submissions on the budget and tell council that it should live within it’s means instead of seeing it’s citzens and ratepayers as walking eftpos machines to be tucked at every opportunity.
    I note that the planners have woken up the fact that not everyone in this fair city has rail access so the old tram idea is being dusted off as another money spending exercise.
    If you want an idea of the limited access people have to the train set there are very useful maps on the skypath(the wotsit bolted onto the harbour bridge) application which is in the submissions section of the AC website.

    • LesleyNZ

      Tried to get on the AKLD Council website right now but couldn’t gain access. What is this about the trams? Who in AKLD Council is behind this stupid idea? I know Chris Darby wants trams up and down Lake Rd from Devonport to Takapuna and across to Northcote. Daft idea.

      • Quinton Hogg

        I suspect that there will be an avalanche of submissions so people are queuing up to get on to tell council that they are a collection of wazzocks.
        as to the trams, there was a piece in this am’s herald on the subject. it is an idea promoted by the car haters at Auckland Transport.

      • Bart67

        Trams on Lake Road? It’s a parking lot every weekday from 4.00 when the Navy finish work, and every weekend when for some reason greater Auckland get it in to their heads that the best coffee in the universe is served in Devonport! What that traffic really needs is a few trams to really slow things down, yeah, that’ll work! You should have to pass an IQ test before running for council!

        • Quinton Hogg

          And on Dominion road too, which is a parking lot mornings and evenings weekdays as well as Saturdays.

    • Sally

      With the Auckland Council sponsorship deal with the Herald for Anniversary Weekend celebration, I wonder if the Herald will now become the propaganda machine for the Council. Will now watch to see if we get balance reporting in this regard. And I don’t mean individual opinion pieces.

  • Kendall

    The elephant in the labour room

  • Cadwallader

    Just heard Mike Hosking state that those in the print msm are driven by bitterness! Well I never! This was in the context of how the print msm continually speculate that “Top Gear” is entering its last season. The Leftie msm seem to dislike Top Gear due to its host’s wonderful knack of driving liberals nuts simply by being candid and non-PC. I suppose the envy filled Left detest his adulation of expensive cars because their constituency “can’t afford cars.” Weep?

  • la la land

    Blubbergeddon – how are we all getting along folks? I am feeling very hopeful as I am experiencing quite a loss of weight loss with only changing what I eat rather than how much. I can see on the spreadsheet others are going great guns too… Is there anyone else trying paleo style/cutting processed carbs and sugar and do you have any tips? I am still sneaking little bits of dark chocolate as I cant seem to kick it to touch completely…

    • mommadog

      Good for you. I cant say I am losing a lot of weight but it is coming off slowly. It has gone on over 10 years so I guess I cant expect an overnight miracle and to wake up looking like I did 10 years ago. No paleo or any specific diet with a name for me. But I have been reading Dr Joel Furhman’s book “The end of Dieting – How to live for life”. He has coined the term “‘nutrarian” and advocates eating high nutrient foods so cutting out the crap basically. http://www.drfuhrman.com/default.aspx. It makes sense to me and something I could continue for life rather than a specific diet for now but realise it may not be of interest for others. We each have to find our own path and what works for us.

      So overall I have cut back sugar and the processed carbs that come in boxes in the supermarket but still eat bread. This journey is about health for me and getting new healthy habits so weight loss is just part of it. I have some really good days but also had some chocolate 2 days ago. Exercise has dropped this week due to being sick but will get back to that over the weekend.

      • la la land

        THanks – I will take a look – its great to have something to keep the motivation going etc

    • Old Man, Torbay.

      I’ve lost weight before but my love of whisky and wine has piled it back on.

      Big thing for me has been to stop (temporary) drinking and increase my exercise to a 40 minute sweaty walk each day. Add to that reducing the amount I eat.

      Breakfast is stewed apple and yogurt plus two slices of toast with marmite.

      Lunch is two slices of toast topped with uncooked cheese and tomato or celery plus a couple of marinated mussels.

      Dinner fish or meat plus vegetables or salad.

      The diet needs to be balanced. The following may be helpful;
      http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/weight_loss_and_carbohydrates
      http://www.heartfoundation.org.nz/healthy-living/healthy-eating

      • la la land

        Thanks for the links – will have a look

        • Seachange

          I’ve found this site very helpful http://www.dietdoctor.com/
          He advocates a Low Carb, High Fat diet.
          Similar to Paleo, but includes dairy products.

    • I’ve stalled. Not gone backwards thank goodness, but no progress for well over a week. So today’s a fasting day, and tomorrow will be too. 100% slip-up free, that way I’ll be back on track by the end of the weekend :)

      (I use intermittent fasting, eating very little 2 or 3 days a week)

  • Garbageman

    If you ever needed a reason to avoid left activists and their woeful blogs then follow this link to a stoush between Lyn Prentice and Bradbury, be warned you are entering the realm of the bizarre and hateful and there is some colourful language, so while they revel in any misfortunes Cam might have they are also quite happy tearing at each others throats in some sort of blog weeing competition

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/01/22/blogwatch-has-lynn-prentice-apologised-to-his-best-blogger-for-outing-him-yet/

    • mommadog

      I cant bring myself to click on the link and read it so I am happy to accept your summary on this and feel good as the leftie activists tear each other apart (Is that bad to admit to? Oh well). The more they do that the more they leave the rest of us alone. I guess with the holiday break they didn’t have enough going on to tear into the right so like rabid animals turn on each other.

      • Soleman

        I’ve done it for you mommadog and you can relax – I am the one who has lost 5 minutes which I will never get back, but I must admit it was entertaining. Reminds me of the movie “Grumpy Old Men” when they stand back and slag each other.

        • Reaper

          They sound like a bunch of catty schoolgirls slagging each other off on facebook to me.

      • Murray Smith

        A copy and paste of my one visit to the Dailyblog

        FRANK MACSKASY says:

        JANUARY 21, 2015 AT 8:23 AM

        The Rightwing are supposedly very big on Law’n’Order…

        Rating: +31 (from 31 votes)

        Reply

        MURRAY SMITH says:

        JANUARY 21, 2015 AT 8:27 PM

        And the Leftwing are not so ?

        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    • Odd Ball

      Thanks for the link.

    • Betty Swallocks

      Many thanks for the link GM – that was funny in a ‘watching Russian dashcam videos’ kind of way.

    • Cadwallader

      Love it! Who needs enemies with mates like that?

    • johcar

      Is it a coincidence that their page header “The Daily Blog” uses the same font as the NZ Herald??

  • R&BAvenger

    That wealthy tosspot with too much time on his hands (One G. Morgan) has written another book. As a means of promoting said book, he has appeared at Ratana and raved about how New Zealand should be renamed Aotearoa-New Zealand, Te Reo should be made compulsory and how pakeha are all ignorant and should get to know more about Treaty of Waitangi ‘issues’.
    My thoughts:
    1. There are more pressing/important issues for Maori to address
    2. Learning any second language should be a choice, I’m not against some lessons on pronunciation of Maori place names and phrases.
    3. Renaming the country – whoop dee do!!
    4. Please, please, please Labour/Greens pick up on these statements and run with it as official policy .

    • Garbageman

      Trevett gives cat boy a serve, and the Churches chairmans comments are priceless, this pillock needs a serious hobby besides cat hating and Pakeha shameing

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11390420

    • Curly1952

      As the Tui billboard says – “Shhhh, I want to hear what Gareth Morgan is saying – Yeah Right”

      • ychiefs

        I just hope he’s advising the new Hurricanes coaches.

  • jude

    I did a tally of ages from people who offered there’s up on back chat last night, and roughly the split looks like this.
    Age 90: 1 Person
    Ages 80: ?
    Ages 70 -79 : 6 people.
    Age 60 -69 : 17 people.
    Age 50-59 : 18 people.
    Age 40-49 : 18 people.
    Age 30-39 : 8 people .
    Age 20-29 : 2 people.

    edit:
    I had 3 very late additions:Chris Chitens is the new “youngest” commenter at 26.George you finally have company, congratulations:) one more 40-49, and one more 60-69

    • Quinton Hogg

      for what is worth I am 53.
      I read and only occasionally comment in evenings.

    • Old Man, Torbay.

      Don’t think I saw that. For the record, I’m 73.

    • Fforde Thinking

      Add me in at 20.
      I’m constantly thinking “I wish I had a disqus account to replay to that”, and now can

      • jude

        Well done you are now our youngest commenter, welcome on board:)

    • patriot

      Well done, Jude.

      • jude

        Thank you:) I have kept this post up and as you can see from below, I still have people wanting to be added.
        I am thrilled we now have a young 20 year old joining our ranks!

        • Seachange

          You can add me to the Pod too. I’m 57 and have lurked in the shadows for months. Young Fforde Thinking’s post motivated me to sign up with Disqus – so thanks

          • jude

            Welcome on board to you too then.My spreadsheet is expanding lol:)

          • Reaper

            43 Jude.

          • R&BAvenger

            51 next month Jude

          • Stuarts.burgers

            59 to day 60 to morrow so select where you put me

          • jude

            We do not go up in age until we absolutely have to! You are in my bracket 50-59 :)

        • minnie

          Me is 54

    • Kendall

      One at 39.

    • Carl

      38 for me Jude.

    • Margaret McCall

      I am 69

  • Pete

    Topless Page 3 girls are back

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/65301158/topless-page-3-girls-are-back

    This will have Alison Mau and the rest of the lefty luvvys up in arms if its true!

    • Bazza63

      It was probably a smart marekting campaign to increase their profile in the public’s eye & reader circulation.

  • Catriona

    The papers are now reporting the cost of going back to school. They do this every year and make out one has to mortgage their house to supply the kids with stationery, uniforms etc. As far as stationery goes, it’s never been cheaper. Do parents want the stationers to actually give product away for nothing? Because that’s what stationers practically do at this time of the year. A 1B5 for example – 25c. And now we’ve got uniform suppliers making cheap rubbish. What’s wrong with buying 2nd hand uniforms? Most are given to the schools – and are usually in very good condition. I put my kids’ surplus to requirements in the 2nd hand shops at schools and only if they were fit for purpose. Spare me.

    • la la land

      Mind you it is expensive – I just spend $125 on stationary for my 2 younger kids at warehouse stationary. We pay $6 per week for their school laptops. The school donation is $180 for the 2 for the year. I have spent $160 on a uniform for 1 starting school and I haven’t even started on the 2 older ones yet.
      Ofcourse we knew this was coming and are prepared but I hate to think how those that are really struggling pay for this just after xmas…

      • Aucky

        What does that work out at per week and what do you get by way of WFF? No criticism meant personally but sure as hell the whingers have nottaken that into account. The Herald hasn’t even mentioned WFF.

        • la la land

          Look I am not grizzling about the cost – personally I can afford it and want to pay for it. I am just pointing out that it is very costly for some families.
          I also support computers In school – our kids are growing up in a different world from us with so much more opportunity. We should prepare them the best we can.
          We don’t get working for families either.

      • ychiefs

        $160.00 is cheap for a uniform. Its $80.00 for a pair of shorts at my boys school and yes, you have to buy them through the school.

      • Cadwallader

        I admit to being an anachronistic old grouch but why do kids need laptops at school? At Uni when assigmnments are completed and e-mailed from a distance, OK, but in a classroom?
        Decades ago when I was at school one of the arguments for a uniform was that it kept the cost of clothing down. Otherwise 15 year olds go to school each day as a part of a fashion contest. So, aren’t uniforms still a cheaper option? On that course, why aren’t MPs required to wear uniforms? Ms Turia’s overheads would deplete and all MPs would be readily identifiable in the street for ridicule. It is the norm in North Korea so Gareth may have some thoughts on this.

        • johcar

          “On that course, why aren’t MPs required to wear uniforms?”

          Orange overalls, perhaps?

        • la la land

          Yep uniforms are cheaper and easier – you can buy 2 pairs of boys shorts for $30 at our school and they are good quality.

          For the computers – there is no point living in the dark ages – computers run our world these days and they open up so many opportunities for our kids. If we can get the troublesome kids engaged in learning then that leaves the teacher with more time for all the good kids. The introduction of digital classrooms in primary school is raising the learning levels considerably.

    • Chris

      And we will soon hear again how children are starving and need to be fed at school. So how were they fed during the holidays? or were the msm not on duty during this time to look into these thousands of deprived children during the break?

      • Mags

        My boys hated taking lunches. They were a waste of time to make when they could sleep another 10 minutes. The Lunch box was too bulky so sandwiches would end up squashed in their pockets and really they would rather play sport at lunch time. They were ravenous when they got home but their choice. Doesn’t appeared to have affected their learning.

      • Korau

        If people can’t afford to feed their kids breakfast before school, and lunch at school, does this mean the kids have starved since school broke up in December? If that’s the case some really skinny kids will be returning to school in a week or so.

        This would be a great time to debunk this rort!

    • Reaper

      Raising children costs money. I homeschool mine, so don’t have the school costs, but she still needs to wear clothes, read books, write with and on something, access the internet, etc. The MoE’s generous contribution of $751 per year doesn’t go very far towards the cost of textbooks. People should be grateful that the govt is picking up most of the cost of their children’s education. If you add in the cost of having to live on one income, many would not be able to educate their children at all.

      Perhaps they should do more articles about the cost of raising children in general, in the hope it might make those who can’t afford it think before breeding.

    • I.M Bach

      But, but, but, it eats into the booze, ciggies, Sky TV, junk food and flash car funds. It’s not easy thinking of yourself 24/7. It takes tenacity and determination, along with some pimping from the MSM to be truly poverty stricken.

    • Albert Lane

      Just have a look in supermarket trolleys. Then you’ll see why there isn’t enough money for essentials.

  • Mikev

    Scrap feeding kids at school. According to the herald the cost of going back to school is so high for some families they wont be going. A saving all round! Sounds like a good Tui ad!

  • ychiefs

    Been thinking about National and Key during this lull in politics. I have a theory. Labour’s weak postion and lack of true charasmatic pollies has left national in a state of ennui. Lack of real action on liquour laws, welfare, MMP and the treaty gravy train has been allowed to happen due to a weak opposition. Small business taxation is another area that needs reform. National has been allowed to take a postion thats only slightly to the right of labour and without any real push, they’re not likely to move from. I believe this was the argument that Stuart Nash used to raise money from the northern club and such, real democracy needs an energised, resourced opposition. The last election effort here in Gissy was the poorest i’ve ever seen, Tolley won in a sleep walk. If its not Labour who’s going to provide this push then who else?

    • Cadwallader

      Your point is well made but consider this: If National are doing less it means there is less government in our lives. The less governmental intrusion we have the better off we are unless we are bludgers on the state tit.

      • ychiefs

        Yes but some things are self defeating. The light touch that was applied to the liqour laws create a situations like the BW riot in Gissy. We end up paying for the extra police and then the courts to sort it out. Changing the drinking age back to 20 and putting the responsibility for drunkeness back on the individual would minimise those situations and lessent he tax burdon.

        • MaryLou

          Agreed. In the absence of real opposition National has taken a relatively lax approach to anything that needs reform lately. Were going great guns with things like Paula Bennett and welfare, but still not sure where they’re going this term. Early days, but 3 years will pass in the blink of an eye.

          Who can provide real opposition and incentive to get things done? I don’t think that party exists right now.

        • Albert Lane

          I was astounded and confounded when both National and Labour voted against raising the liquor age to 20. I can think of a number of conspiracy theories like the possibility that there may be substantial funding that the parties get from the liquor industry, but who knows, so I’d like to know the truth why the legislation didn’t get any support. And we used to have a law that prohibited drunkenness in a public place. What happened to that? These two matters need urgent attention. This year will do nicely thank-you.

      • 1951

        They could do more to reduce that intrusion and hopefully Nick Smith’s slash&burn will be a good start.

        • ychiefs

          Just window dressing from a fairly ineffective minister. One of a few Key should have culled last election.

          • 1951

            I fear you may be right.

  • Waikato Times:
    NOT ONE WORD on the Australian Open in the newspaper today.
    NOT ONE WORD.
    Pathetic.
    Why would you bother buying such a rag.
    I didn’t buy it.

    • I.M Bach

      Even if I’d bought the W/T I would not have noticed there was no mention of the Australian Open because I don’t care. Is it golf or tennis? Personally I think too much space is allocated to sport in most media. But that’s just my opinion.

      • Mags

        And not enough to netball. Silver ferns in Fiji at the moment playing Oceania tournament. No sight of Australia there to support the sports development. So the games between NZ and Fiji and Samoa are pretty lopsided but still worthy of a higher placement in the news.
        When/if the allblacks go to Samoa it will be front page stuff. Granted the Samoan rugby team will have a higher world ranking. I have to search hard to find analysis of the games. Not sure how it’s presented in paper newspapers and I don’t get sky.

  • Skydog

    So child abuse is down 12%. Even one case is too many. However, claims that this is the worst government, from the left are getting rebutted continuously. Well done National.

    • Bobb

      Child abuse not down. Reported cases of emotional abuse down and that because a great number of these are now diverted to another agency to deal with before they get to Chid Youth & Family. Just another example of shoddy inaccurate reporting by MSM.

      • Skydog

        Whats the name of the agency that receives the cases before CYFS?

        • Bobb

          I missed the name. Apparently they can now call in NGO’s as an interim to full CYFS involvement. There was a guy on RadioNZ this morning talking about it.

      • I.M Bach

        Child abuse was never reduced in our home; it never started.

  • ex-JAFA

    Just found this on Seek. Any Oilers in Tauranga with law degrees wanting a new career? (pic)

    • Albert Lane

      That’s really funny. But here’s another factual one. One of our radio stations (either Radio Live or ZB) on a news item at the time of the Sydney terrorist attack, referred to the female victim as a barista (using the inflection on the letter i) . She was a barrister. I am still gobsmacked at the ignorance of the female newsreader.

    • El Jorge

      Well it is Nosh darling, only the best staff will do.

    • quethe

      Andrew Little has a law degree, maybe he can make coffee too?

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    Sorry if this is a re-post, I had a quick look around and couldn’t spot it.

  • Alright

    Cricket commentator on Radio Sport just now: “Grant Elliot is picking his balls….”

    • Skydog

      I heard that and just about ran off the road.

      Not just great to watch the end of a special innings but the way Sri Lankans and the kiwi batsman shook hands. This is sportsmanship Australia and how the game should be played.

      • Alright

        Agreed. See above post. If I hadn’t seen and heard their batting performance I wouldn’t have believed it. Outstanding!!!!

        …so Elliott wasn’t just standing at the crease “picking his balls” :)

  • Je Suis Charlie – Respect!!

    I see some irish islamic terrorists have broken into the dublin zoo. Apparently they have taken 3 ostriches.

  • Alright

    The Cricket. Utterly sensational!!!!! Ronchi and Elliott scored a world record for their sixth wicket partnership. To put this into perspective

    NZ were 90-something for five wickets. It ended on 360 for five!!

    Ronchi was 170 not out off 99 balls! And Elliott was 104 not out!!

    When Brian Waddel (the world’s best commentator) uses words like sublime and sensational to describe their batting you know it was something very special.

    • Isherman

      Its the twists and turns in innings like this that make it such a fascinatig game, you just never know what the next ball will bring. Cant wait for the World Cup, and while I have no expectation of us wining it, you’d be a fool to write them off completely. Poeple seem worried by Guptill of late, but to be honest I’m more worried about Taylor.

      • Alright

        It is a fascinating game, as you say.

        I encouraged my son to play it to help him learn mathematics.

      • jcpry

        I thought Taylor looked in good nick just miscued one. For my mind I would play Latham instead of Guptill who looks awful.

        • Isherman

          Yeah Guptill has struggled to get going, which is a worry because we know what he can do, but Lathams not a bad suggestion. As for Taylor, he just doesn’t seem himself with respect to his game since he’s been playing with his technique, he has a natural game and I would be inclined to go with it. In any case, they’ve got lots of time at the crease coming up so hopefully they will find some form when we need it.

    • Hans

      I was there it was assume, cant remember the last time we scored 360 – or anyone for that matter.

  • Alright

    Re cricket post below…I have just got to buy one of WO’s Black Caps now!

  • Hans

    More this has nothing to do with Islam, but all the Aussie Muslims are happy about the attack in France, i wonder what would happen if we would hold up pictures of dogs urinating on the terrorist that were killed it the latest Gaza war, Islamaphobia

    Sydney: Some of those present handed out cartoons of a dog urinating on the grave of the Charlie Hebdo workers gunned down in their Paris office by Islamic extremists earlier this month.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/australia-1000-muslims-rally-against-charlie-hebdo-and-the-freedom-of-speech

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