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  • ozbob68

    Hmm, remember when that TV Sports Announcer paid hush money to his ex for belting her, then she went to the courts anyway? Saw in this article that a guy was shaken down for 50K hush money because he filmed one of his female employees taking a leak, then she went to the police anyway.

    The lessons from all this; firstly, don’t be a creep, but secondly never pay hush money, it’s a form of double-jeopardy.


    • peterwn

      A victim in this situation needs to be careful. Depending on how the shakedown is done the victim could be charged with blackmail. A bit of care with no implied or direct threats should do the trick.

  • metalnwood

    I wonder what Pam Corkery is thinking about the herald.. After her article that people watched the pub couple too long and should not put pictures online the herald is running it again on the front page of the online edition.

    So the herald has had it on the front page on every day since it happened, today they say they may keep their job, yesterday how the wife found out, etc ,etc.

    Herald, how can you run any article on morals re privacy of these guys when you continue to run with it on the front day after day.

    • mommadog

      Granny Herald really does act like a Granny. Like some prudish lady from the 1800’s who thinks its disgusting to talk/think about sex but cant help peeking around the corner at what the maid and gardener are up to.

      • 1951

        (pssst! whisper….I haven’t seen the youtube clip yet. How do I find it?)

        • Ask the guys wife, apparently she found it without too much difficulty.

  • intelligentes candida diva

    Yayee today is the new Friday just today though….bring on the break.
    Happy long weekend everyone

    • mommadog

      Thanks and happy false Friday to you. I have a full work day planned today of something that has to be done so will be glad when it is over and will probably need the long weekend to recover. I’ve given up alcohol for BG2 with the exception of birthdays or very special occasions so I cant say I will have a drink to relax and bring in the long weekend but cheers to anyone who does.

    • Murray Smith

      Have a great break. Just remember the farmers still toiling seven days out of seven.

      • And bloggers. Who are undoubtedly more value to the economy…


      • Ghost

        See, you still get a day off, most farmers agree that they work eight days a week.

        • Murray Smith

          That’s not counting the night shifts !

  • Quinton Hogg

    I see Ports of Auckland, a council owned entity putting in motion further expansion into the Waitemata. A harbour that hosts great white sharks(if you believe the media) bronze whalers, and regular visits from Orca and dolphins. any further expansion will make the harbour less inviting for it’s users and these creatures.
    Yet Auckland City is getting all wound up about oil exploration in a small part of the area where Maui’s dolphins are thought to live, and may pose a resolution opposing same.
    can anyone see the irony?

  • Tomorrow is New Zealand Day, not, so I will go fishing and enjoy the rustle of wind in the matagauri, the gentle drop of the fly on the water and I won’t give a thought to our home grown idiots prancing their aggression at the marae up North.
    Have a great weekend off Oilers

    • WeaselKiss

      Tight lines Grampus and Thankyou!

    • Albert Lane

      Do it while you can. One day you’ll probably have to pay a fee for every fish you catch, plus parking fees, and you will be able to thank the very same home-grown idiots who will again be prancing at that marae up north. Because if they are even given any real power, they’ll certainly be using it to their advantage and to your disadvantage. Have a good weekend – while you can.

  • Korau

    “God made man before woman to give him time to think of an answer for her first question.”

    • LabTested

      I had a girl friend who would fill the comfortable silences by asking ‘what are you thinking about?’ It always confused me & when I genuinely answered ‘nothing’ she wouldn’t believe me & wanted to talk about it.

      • greybeard

        I know!! I had one years ago exactly like that, drove me bloody mad! Can’t a man just daydream and not be interrogated about it?

        • MaryLou

          No, not usually. Who can honestly sit there and think of nothing? Is it a man-thing? Like selective hearing?


          • greybeard

            i ended up thinking ‘why don’t you stop talking and how am i going to dump you without you setting fire to my plums’.

          • Ford

            Yes. Men can and often do think about nothing. It’s a gift!

        • WordWeasel

          As was seen in Andy Cap – men only speak when they have something to say ….

  • Macca

    Commie Dann and Rordon getting all exited this morning at the prospect of Winestone running for Northland….really? In their never ending crusade to discredit National, I wonder if these clowns ever watch footage of themselves to realize just how pathetic and utterly desperate they make themselves look.

    What possible good could the Snake Oil Salesman do for a seat that even if he won, he would still be near powerless in opposition? That these fools tout that Peters main job is to keep the government ‘honest’ beggars belief. I even heard one of the political commentators saying a few years ago that Parliament would be a lot less tedious with Peters back in it as it had been boring without him – give me strength. It was only boring because National were so buy working to try and fix the mess that Labour, The Greens and Winston had left in their wake – and let it never be forgotten, had Winston not sided with the left for his baubles, Clark would never have gained the reins in the first place!

    • Lemuzz

      I think Winnies fear would be “What would happen if he lost”. He doesn’t like loosing

  • Tony

    No wonder
    he was selected by Forbes as the most powerful person in the world. This is one
    time our elected leaders should pay attention to the advice of Vladimir Putin.
    I would suggest that not only our leaders but every citizen of USA should pay
    attention to this advice. How scary is that?

    It is a sad day when a Communist Leader makes more sense than our LEADERS here in the U.S.A and Europe. But here it is!

    Putin’s speech – SHORTEST SPEECH EVER.

    On August 04, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, addressed the Duma, (RussianParliament), and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities in Russia:

    “In Russia, live like Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in
    Russia, to work and eat in Russia, it should speak Russian, and should respect
    the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, and live the life of Muslims then
    we advise them to go to those places where that’s the state law.

    “Russia does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no
    matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’. We will not tolerate disrespect of
    our Russian culture. We better learn from the suicides of America, England,
    Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Muslims are taking over
    those countries and they will not take over Russia. The Russian customs and
    traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of
    Sharia Law and Muslims.

    “When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in
    mind the Russian national interest first, observing that the Muslims Minorities
    Are Not Russians.”

    The politicians in the Duma gave Putin a five minute standing ovation.

    • MaryLou

      He is an interesting man. A scary man, but interesting nonetheless. He can make a lot of sense at times.

    • Mickey

      With a speech like this, if Putin was to lead the Labour Party after Andy gets the move on, he just might, …… might, get my vote.

    • Spiker

      Sorry to say it’s a hoax.

      • Betty Swallocks

        It is indeed a bit of fiction, as confirmed here;

        • MaryLou

          Bugger. So a lot of people with wishful thinking? Wish one of them would say it. Although it really should go without saying…

      • pak

        I was very excited when I first read this some time ago … then very disappointed to find out, as you say, that it was a hoax. Thought finally some sense from a world leader. What a let down!

      • jude

        Well a very well written speech, just needs a bit of tinkering and hopefully a strong Western leader could run with it.
        Not sure we have one with the guts to do that sadly.

  • George

    Yesterday the world realed at the barbaric act of the Jordan pilot been burnt to death by Isis terrorists. The political outrage was expressed across party lines here with one exception; The Greens. I veiwed their website to see their reaction. There was not a word. I don’t suggest for a minute they woudn’t be as horrified as any of us but why the silence? If there was a threat to West Coast snails the outrage would be wall to wall through the media and on their website.
    This suggests they have a very selective morality when it comes to saving the planet. Turei were is your voice? Why are you apposed to NZ doing its bit to intervene in these atrocities? Credibility can only be achieved when one’s voice becomes less critical and more supportive. Is this asking too much of you Metiria?

    • Cowgirl

      I really wish that one of the many, many journalists that read this site, would front them and ask them what they think on this. They seem to ask them their opinion on everything else, no matter the relevance. I would have thought that condemning this was a no-brainer, and as such, the Greens are ideally placed to deliver. But no, you can guarantee that no matter what the majority think, the Greens will think and do the opposite. It’s opposition for opposition’s sake.

    • pak

      Come on George. Be realistic. Turei missed out on presenting her vitriolic attack on the P.M. at Ratana Pa the other day. She would have been far too busy updating her speech in readiness for a second chance at Waitangi Day to take time out to comment on something that is nothing to do with us in Aotearoa New Zealand…

    • phronesis

      “I don’t suggest for a minute they woudn’t be as horrified as any of us” To be blunt that is perhaps a bit naive. The people carrying out the atrocity clearly weren’t horrified by it. The people supporting those carrying out the atrocity weren’t horrified by it either. The UK Greens would make it legal for people to join ISIS. Your own point was that the Greens here were the only party that did not condemn ISIS. I honestly doubt that the Greens were as horrified as any of us.

      • pak

        I think from a human standpoint individual Greens would have been as horrified as any of us. But on a political level their opposition to any N.Z. intervention is so entrenched it seems to override any moral or other considerations. It is this dogged attachment to being right without being prepared to consider another point of view is why I will never trust the Greens.

      • Whitey

        I’ve noticed that some people seem to have convinced themselves the video was faked. A lot of Green types prefer wishful thinking to reality, and I wonder if some of them aren’t horrified because they are telling themselves it wasn’t real.

    • Reaper

      I posted this link to an interview with Turei last night.


      If you listen to the full podcast, she is asked towards the end about the possibility of send NZ troops to the Middle East. She sort of sniggers, then states “There is no justification for going to war.”

      • Zeal23

        Similar to “There is no justification for going to work.” Someone else will make sure you are looked after, someone else will do the hard yards, take the risks.

    • bristol

      Because it says ‘Leader’ on her business card, doesn’t mean she actually is a leader.

  • Disinfectant

    Did anyone else get a pop-up window this morning with the following headings relating to Whale Oil;
    F12, Dom Explorer, Consoles X24, Debugger, Network, UI Responsiveness, Profiler, Memory, Emulation?
    Had a bit of a look but I’m not a Geek.
    Does anyone know what this all means?

    • rantykiwi

      You leaned on the F12 key and opened Internet Explorer debugger mode

      • Korau

        If I tap F12 on my laptop it disconnects wifi. Your F12 must be a Microsoft special.

  • jude

    Just made a double batch of play dough for my middle daughter to take to work.
    It brings back very happy memories of making the stuff for the girls:)

    2 cups flour, 1 cup salt, 2 cups water, 1tbsp cooking oil,2 tsp cream of tarter.
    Mix all together in a pot on low heat.
    I split into smaller batches add food colouring while cooking.

  • Don O’Brien

    The state of Israel includes 1.6 million Arabs, which is about 20% of the entire population. Most of them are Sunni Muslims. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

  • Yellow Admiral

    Is it just me, or are others disgusted at the implications of this? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11397127

    Yes, the intention to encourage greater participation by Maori in coaching and management roles is laudable, but here we have a team of young Maori girls who were successful last year being denied entry this year just because their coach is not Maori. As a sop to those who complained, the organisers proposed letting the girls participate as individuals in other teams. But how can that those girls be encouraged to continue in their sport if their team identity is destroyed?

    Seems to me its a prejudicial, racially based decision. But I bet nothing is done by the HR or Race Relations Commission. And consider the reaction if the tables were turned and it was a Pakeha team refused entry because their coach was a Maori.

    Race relations in this country are not improving.

    • Bart67

      I just read this, and I was just stunned that anyone in this country could stoop to being so low as to exclude participation on the basis of race. Imagine if a cafe refused to serve a group of people because one was Maori? This is what RACISM really looks like, and you can talk about participation of Maori and everything else, but there is an ugly undercurrent to this decision, very ugly, and there is no place for that in this country!

    • pak

      No, it is not just you. This sort of behaviour makes my blood boil. The whole thing is a fatuous construct anyway, and it does not matter whether the coach is “Maori” or not, particularly when the definition of who is “Maori” is so loose. The adults have let the team down with their witless arguments.

  • no bullswool

    Good to see John Key answering the question of NZ sending forces to help against ISIS with calling out the opposition parties for the hypocrites they are.He said we can not turn our face away from this.Straight up no nonsense answer.Then Phil (take a pill) Goff says John Key needs to be more straight forward! Key couldn’t have been more straight forward but clearly not the answer that Goff wanted to frame him with ‘buddying up with his American mates”