I think we need to do a little bit more than watch them

Fairfax reports:

Several of the New Zealanders under 24-hour surveillance for links to Islamic State want to commit a terrorist attack on Kiwis, says the Prime Minister.

About 40 people are being monitored in New Zealand for their ties to Isis but the most threatening are under constant watch, which means they’re unlikely to be able to get anywhere near executing a terrorist attack, said John Key.

“There’s no question about what their motivations are and that’s the tragedy of the Isis story is that you get some very dysfunctional people, for want of a better term, who want to associate themselves with Isis,” he told Radio NZ.

Those individuals under 24-hour surveillance are being watched both physically and electronically.

Most of those being monitored in New Zealand are on the Isis “periphery” by trying to raise money for the terrorist group, trying to go there to fight or actively engaging through social media.

Some Kiwis are “literally fighting in Syria as foreign fighters and certainly those people are likely to be in very constant review of Isis’s propaganda that they put on the Internet,” Key said.

I would hope that we are doing a bit more than just watching. But wait for the usual suspects to start wailing about human rights and government spying and every other conspiracy theory in the book.

The Government committed Kiwi troops to help train members of the Iraqi Security Force for two years and Key said that hasn’t changed.

“The point is, do we want to be there forever or risk that we get stuck there forever? It’s quite a commitment – it’s well over 100 people, it costs a lot and we’re making a difference but I think at some point we should really come and go from that scenario,” he said.

Unlike the United States and France who have air strike capabilities – New Zealand’s options to assist in Iraq were limited.

“On the military front we’re not looking to do anything different so there’s no papers floating around and there’s no work happening as far as I’m aware. There’s no intention to move beyond where we’re at because where we’re at is a pretty decent contribution and I think recognised as such.”

While several of those being monitored are “threatening individuals” Key said people should have confidence in the fact they’re under constant supervision.

“My concern always is not about the people we know about but the ones we don’t know about and that’s what we’ve seen in Paris with the tragedies there.”

He said while some Kiwis are actively raising money for Isis they hadn’t been charged “because it’s not clear cut when you get to court”.

Sometimes you have to wonder about John Key and his loose lips…there is a whole lot of information in his statements that lets the bad guys know that a) they are being monitored and b) that monitoring is electronic.

If they weren’t taking counter-measures they will be now.

Oh and it isn’t ISIS, or Islamic State, or ISIL, it is Daesh.


– Fairfax

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As much at home writing editorials as being the subject of them, Cam has won awards, including the Canon Media Award for his work on the Len Brown/Bevan Chuang story.  And when he’s not creating the news, he tends to be in it, with protagonists using the courts, media and social media to deliver financial as well as death threats.

They say that news is something that someone, somewhere, wants kept quiet.   Cam Slater doesn’t do quiet, and as a result he is a polarising, controversial but highly effective journalist that takes no prisoners.

He is fearless in his pursuit of a story.

Love him or loathe him.  But you can’t ignore him.