Angry Andy busted with pork pies


Andrew Little exclaimed yesterday on Q+A that he was working with Winston Peters and the Greens on formulating policy for an alternative government.

Fairfax reported it also:

Earlier on Sunday Little said he was talking with both the Greens and NZ First, separately, about issues where there is common ground that they could campaign on ahead of next year’s general election.

He said the public would know “well in time for next year’s election” where all three parties line-up and where there are differences.

“In terms of specific joint policy announcements, we’re certainly not there yet, but between now and the next election I certainly wouldn’t rule out (joint policy) with either of those parties.”

I thought to myself as I heard that news…”I wonder if anyone has told Winston about this, or asked him what he thinks?”   

Well, Richard Harman at Politik did:

NZ First Leader Winston Peters was pouring cold water last night on claims by Labour Leader Andrew Little that Labour, the Greens and NZ First could shortly start to develop some joint policy positions.

Mr Little made the claims to the website, STUFF.

But Mr Peters has long maintained that NZ First would not commit itself to any potential coalition before an election.

His standard response is to say he would wait till the voters had spoken; which is usually taken to mean he would talk to the party with the largest share of the vote first.

And last night he was adamant there were no joint policies in the wind.

“There are no joint policies we are working on, full stop,” he said.

“We have dialogue with other parties on various other matters mainly relating to the conduct of the House and Parliament.

“But we are certainly not working on any joint policy with any other party.”

Pretty unequivocal. Winston say no, and it looks like Andrew little told a big fat whopper on Q+A.

Winston was also unequivocal to Fairfax:

But Peters says his position not to discuss potential coalition governments, or joint policy, hasn’t changed in 23 years and he “won’t depart from that now”.

“We row our own boat and we formulate our own policy.”

Peters didn’t think Little had been “deliberately wrong” in his comments because the two parties do meet to discuss issues, but not policy ideas.

“It’s a fact to say we’ve had talks on various issues…I have conversations with most political parties, but not all.”

But he said those meetings centred on specific issues, such as, the conduct of the House and Question Time.

Very clear then that Andrew Little just made it all up on the fly, perhaps to show he was the man who bring all the opposition parties together. Winston Peters of course just spiked that nonsense.

You see, the problem for Andrew Little is that Winston Peters can count and Andrew Little cannot.

You need 62 seats realistically to govern, and no matter which way you add up Labour, Greens and NZ First you can’t get those numbers. But you can get them when you add up NZ First and National.

Winston has always been able to count, the only times he hasn’t was in his last gasp fights in Tauranga against Bob Clarkson and Simon Bridges. He redeemed himself by proving he could count better than jo de Joux and Steve Joyce in Northland.

Winston will never work with the Greens, and I’m not sure they want to play the battered mistress again.


– Fairfax, Politik


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