Australia’s own home-grown alleged terrorist child of “moderate” parents

Radicalised online; I bet they will be telling us that he was a good boy too.

A 16-year-old Sydney boy was intercepted on an online chat site talking about obtaining a firearm and using it for a terror attack on Anzac Day, police allege.

Officers from the Joint Counter-Terrorism Team were forced to act with just hours’ notice on Sunday, raiding the boy’s home and arresting him in a street nearby just after 3pm.

Sources close to the investigation told Fairfax Media that the boy, who doesn’t attend school, has been on the counter-terrorism team’s radar for just over a year.

His association with one of the Operation Appleby targets, a young western Sydney extremist who is now in custody, meant police were monitoring him although he was not considered a “prime person of interest”.

Over the weekend police picked up on an online conversation between the boy and an offshore male in which the boy mentioned sourcing a gun and Anzac Day services.  

He didn’t mention a specific location or time and he hadn’t managed to source the gun, however the conversation was enough to prompt police to act immediately.

Police have charged him with doing an act in preparation or planning for a terrorist act, an offence that carries a maximum sentence of life in prison.

No weapons were seized during the raid on Sunday but extremist material was found on one of his mobile phones.

Electronics were seized and police will now sift through them to find others he was talking to. It’s understood he had had several conversations with the overseas male.

He’s not a good boy yet but his parents are “moderate”.

It’s understood the boy’s family, described by sources as a moderate, hard-working family who were all born in Australia, are in shock and had little idea of his alleged activities.

His parents and sister did not attend court and refused to answer the door on Monday when two police officers visited.

If you don’t think this sort of thing isn’t happening in NZ then I have a bridge I can sell you.




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  • waldopepper

    it just proves yet again that even “moderate” muslims are dangerous.

  • one for the road

    Plenty of conversations going on on Whatsapp which is all encrypted.. Only the dopey ones (using plain old Social media, etc) are getting monitord/caught, meanwhile there will be heaps plotting and scheming.. even in NZ…

  • kereru

    Courtesy of Andrew Bolt:

    ‘A Sydney teenager accused of planning an Anzac Day terror ­attack was participating in a ­government-funded deradicalisation program at the time of his ­arrest, after failed attempts to ­involve him in another plot less than a year ago.

    In revelations that will raise fresh questions about the effectiveness of programs designed to deter young people from extremist ideas, the 16-year-old arrested yesterday had been working with police for almost a year before he allegedly tried to source a gun as part of an alleged attack…

    He was referred to the NSW Police intervention program. He was given a gym membership, taken to English-language sermons at a mosque and received regular visits and phone calls from community contact police who checked in on his welfare.

    Outwardly, the boy appeared to be thriving. Although he dropped out of school, he got a job and appeared happier and less withdrawn.

    The boy’s Lebanese family is ­religious, but quietly so.’

    The last sentence is interesting – when would you hear that a Christian/Hindu/Buddhist family is religious, but quietly so’?

    • KatB

      That is an interesting sentence, “The boy’s Lebanese family is ­religious, but quietly so.” You’re right, when we say somebody is religious, it means they practice their faith, or at least let everybody know they practice their faith. Somebody may be Catholic, Anglican, etc,etc, but we wouldn’t necessarily say they’re religious, if they don’t practice their faith. We also wouldn’t say “quietly so”, if they didn’t practice their faith. To say the family is religious, but quietly so, is a telling statement as we know what religion they’re talking bout, when they tack the “quietly so” bit on the end. Also great to see the boy was given a gym membership, that must be a huge help in deradicalisation.

      • kereru

        You’re so right – all these things are sops to cover the real problem which is (a) that Islam is a radical theocratic political ideology and (b) that Islam is the source of the ‘radicalisation’ and those promulgating it need to be dealt with, and dealt with hard. ‘Hate speech’ is a two-way street, or should be.

        No use putting a Band Aid over a festering sore. Deal with the infection and you get rid of the symptoms.

    • sandalwood789

      “…programs designed to deter young people from extremist ideas…”

      Such programs are a waste of time.
      There is only *one* way to curb terrorist tendencies in young Muslims – get them to leave Islam.

      Trying to do anything else is like trying to cure someone of “just the nasty bits” of cancer.

  • kereru

    In related news…’citing a desire to protect Latvian culture and to address security concerns at a time of rising migration to Europe, the government is working on proposed legislation that would ban face-covering veils from public spaces.’

    Though there are only a handful of women who wear them they are keen to nip the problem in the bud. Let’s not slide from ‘too few to worry about’ to ‘too many to offend’.

    The whole story of mass immigration from the Muslim Third World to the West is just that. It is precisely when there are just two or three niqab-wearers that a ban is best introduced, should you believe in such measures. When there are 2000 is when it’s too late.’

  • bristol

    Yep, they’re all ‘moderate’ until….

    • OneTrack

      And, when they have the numbers, they will vote for Sharia law in your street.

  • HunuaRanger

    Being the fact that there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim, simply slips the minds of the keyboard interviewing leftwing Nutbars, It does beg the question how they can change an indisputable terror attack planner into a sob story for the anti-GCSB brigade yet still reporting the said planner was attending deradicalization workshops. It completely beggars belief.

    • kereru

      I believe there is such a thing as a nominal Muslim, but there is no such thing as ‘moderate’ Islam.

  • Orca

    Have you noticed the censorship in the media? I have read about 10 articles from all over the world and not one mentions the words “Islam or Muslim”. Funny that. Although you seldom hear of the typical Australian family being described as “moderate”, and the word mosque (only mentioned in one article) is a clue.

    • Dan

      Indeed. “Conservative muslim” “Liberal Muslim” “Right Wing Muslim” “Left Wing Muslim” Not terms you hear of if ever

      Or how about “moderate christian” “radicalized christian”

    • Damon Mudgway

      I would like the media to just call them what they are: religious nut bags.

      • kereru

        The ‘religion’ is just an all-encompassing cloak for a supremacist theocratic political ideology such as Communism or Fascism. Once you see it like that it becomes clear what their objective is. Total domination. I wish they were just nutbags.

  • Brian Smaller

    These so called ‘moderates’ seem to be a bit like pitbulls. Lovable until they turn on you.

    • Orca

      He probably only intended to commit a “moderate” suicide bombing.

  • 10cents

    The term ‘moderate islam’ is unfortunately the hijab behind which the danger to the rest of the world festers.

  • Orca

    Ahhhhh….all this talk of moderation, it all makes sense now! WO has been sending it’s mods to visit the mosques, to check on how well they are being moderated.

  • Joe Burns

    Just back from a talk about the benefits of a larger refugee quota to NZ, and a few case studies that show their benefit.

    The speaker did allow that only 0.01% of refugees could pose a terrorist concern. Just one, not a percentage is one too many.

    • kereru

      What case studies? What percentage of refugees did these beneficial case studies represent?

      ‘The speaker did allow that only 0.01% of refugees could pose a terrorist concern.’ How does he know? How did he arrive at that figure?

      If the refugees were drawn from the persecuted Christian community in the ME there would be zero terrorist ‘concern’, just as there has been with refugees from Vietnam.

      Why can’t we learn from the mistakes of other western nations – or do we imagine we are somehow immune because we so friendly and welcoming, and so far away from the world’s hotspots? Why can’t we grasp the truth that, once a mosque is built in a non-Muslim nation, the land belongs to Allah and Islam.

    • sandalwood789

      “… the benefits of a larger refugee quota to NZ…”

      Hmmph. I would ask the organisers of that talk to show me ONE Western city that has been affected positively by an influx of Muslims.
      I can’t think of one.
      By “affected positively” I mean that the positives outweigh the negatives (e.g. increased crime, Muslim intimidation, Muslim demands for concessions……).

      These pro-refugee people are soooooo *naive*. They have never looked at places like Lakemba in Sydney, Malmo (Sweden) or the hundreds of Muslim-dominated no-go zones in big cities in the West.

    • sandalwood789

      The thing is – you *can’t* just dump dozens (if not hundreds) of people who follow a hostile ideology into a city or suburb and expect that there will be no negative consequences. That’s just ridiculous, yet that is what Western governments (including ours) are doing. Utter madness.

  • Eddie

    Why was this kid not attending school?

  • Keanne Lawrence

    Contrary to Media party opinion the majority are very good at joining dots. Day – Night, Death – Taxes, Muslims – Terrorists.

  • sandalwood789

    Here’s an excellent article from Citizen Warrior –
    “America is more Islamic than my home country” –

    Quote – “This unique glimpse into the mind of an American Muslim revealed two fundamental problems that Americans face when discussing Islam with Muslims and non-Muslims. Americans think in terms of hours, days or months but rarely attempt to imagine our culture or country with the yardstick of a century, much less 300 years. To a Muslim, Islam has been around for 1400 years. A country that has been around for 250 years will be just another country that is absorbed into the Islamic tsunami that began 1400 years ago and continues today. After all, just 100 years after Muhammad’s death, the map of Islamic conquered lands stretched from Afghanistan to Spain.

    The second issue is: We assume refugees and/or immigrants from the Middle East living here will find our freedoms and democracy preferable to any other ideology. The fact that 51% of Muslims living in the U.S. responded positively in a recent poll to this statement, “Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Sharia” should dispel the myth that among Muslims a large majority prefer democracy over Sharia law. Add to this a Pew Research poll that showed 60% of Muslim-Americans under 30 are more loyal to Islam than America. Where do the majority of jihadists come from? This very demographic group.”

  • bristol

    Yes, it was then Mayor of Istanbul Recip Erdogan, now President of Turkey, who said it. Furthermore, in 2007, speaking at Kanal D TV’s Arena program when he was Prime Minister, Erdogan commented on the term ‘moderate Islam’, often used in the West to describe AKP (his Islamic political party) and said, “These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”