He is sorry, oh so sorry, for getting it so, so wrong

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We don’t need to be sorry here in New Zealand; we need to learn from Britain’s mistakes. We must learn from Britain’s mistakes. Muslims are not the problem: we are. We are the ones who  assume who they think the same as us. We are the ones who assume that they migrate to our country intending to assimilate like so many other cultures have before them. We are the ones who assume they share the same values as us.

The former head of Britain’s Equalities and Human Rights Commission (EHRC), Trevor Phillips, has admitted he “got almost everything wrong” on Muslim immigration in a damning new report on integration, segregation, and how the followers of Islam are creating “nations within nations” in the West.

Phillips, a former elected member of the Labour Party who served as the Chairman of the EHRC from 2003-2012 will present “What British Muslims Really Think” on Channel 4 on Wednesday. An ICM poll released to the Times ahead of the broadcast reveals: 

  • One in five Muslims in Britain never enter a non-Muslim house;
  • 39 per cent of Muslims, male and female, say a woman should always obey her husband;
  • 31 per cent of British Muslims support the right of a man to have more than one wife;
  • 52 per cent of Muslims did not believe that homosexuality should be legal;
  • 23 per cent of Muslims support the introduction of Sharia law rather than the laws laid down by parliament.

Writing in the Times on the issue, Phillips admits: “Liberal opinion in Britain has, for more than two decades, maintained that most Muslims are just like everyone else… Britain desperately wants to think of its Muslims as versions of the Great British Bake Off winner Nadiya Hussain, or the cheeky-chappie athlete Mo Farah. But thanks to the most detailed and comprehensive survey of British Muslim opinion yet conducted, we now know that just isn’t how it is.”

Phillips commissioned “the Runnymede report” into Britain and Islamophobia in 1997 which, according to both Phillips himself and academics across the country, popularised the phrase which has now become synonymous with any criticism – legitimate or not – of Islam or Muslims.

…Phillips says his new data shows “a chasm” opening between Muslims and non-Muslims on fundamental issues such as marriage, relations between men and women, schooling, freedom of expression and even the validity of violence in defence of religion. He notes – echoing an article on Breitbart London just two weeks ago which reveals a growing disparity between older and younger Muslims in Britain – that “the gaps between Muslim and non-Muslim youngsters are nearly as large as those between their elders”.

And while he is cautious to note that many Muslims in Britain are grateful to be here, and do identify with role models such as Hussain and Farah, there is a widening gap in society with many Muslims segregating themselves.

“It’s not as though we couldn’t have seen this coming. But we’ve repeatedly failed to spot the warning signs,” he admits.

“Twenty years ago… I published the report titled Islamophobia: A Challenge for Us All, we thought that the real risk of the arrival of new communities was discrimination against Muslims. Our 1996 survey of recent incidents showed that there was plenty of it around. But we got almost everything else wrong.”

His comments will come as a blow to those who continue to attack elements in British society who are concerned about Muslim immigration and integration, and in fact may even go some way to shoring up comments made by U.S. Presidential candidates Donald Trump and Sen. Ted Cruz seeking to slow down or pause the rate of Muslim immigration into the West.

“We estimated that the Muslim population of the UK would be approaching 2 [million] by 2020. We underestimated by nearly a million. We predicted that the most lethal threat to Muslims would come from racial attacks and social exclusion. We completely failed to foresee the urban conflicts of 2001 that ravaged our northern cities. And of course we didn’t dream of 9/11 and the atrocities in Madrid, Paris, Istanbul, Brussels and London.”

“For a long time, I too thought that Europe’s Muslims would become like previous waves of migrants, gradually abandoning their ancestral ways, wearing their religious and cultural baggage lightly, and gradually blending into Britain’s diverse identity landscape. I should have known better.”

And Mr. Phillips even acknowledges that the mass sexual grooming and rape scandals that are plaguing heavily Muslim populated towns across Britain are because of Muslim – not ‘Asian’ – men. He writes: “The contempt for white girls among some Muslim men has been highlighted by the recent scandals in Rotherham, Oxford, Rochdale and other towns. But this merely reflects a deeply ingrained sexism that runs through Britain’s Muslim communities” – in a nod to those who have long protested this to be the case in the face of political, media, and even police cover ups.

Even left wing columnist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown told him: “[W]e [liberal Muslims] are a dying breed — in 10 years there will be very few of us left unless something really important is done.”

Phillips comments: “Some of my journalist friends imagine that, with time, the Muslims will grow out of it. They won’t.”

And indeed he lays the blame at the feet of the liberal, metropolitan elite, media classes: “Oddly, the biggest obstacles we now face in addressing the growth of this nation-within-a-nation are not created by British Muslims themselves. Many of our (distinctly un-diverse) elite political and media classes simply refuse to acknowledge the truth. Any undesirable behaviours are attributed to poverty and alienation. Backing for violent extremism must be the fault of the Americans. Oppression of women is a cultural trait that will fade with time, nothing to do with the true face of Islam.”

“Even when confronted with the growing pile of evidence to the contrary, and the angst of the liberal minority of British Muslims, clever, important people still cling to the patronising certainty that British Muslims will, over time, come to see that “our” ways are better.”

In terms of solutions, Mr. Phillips opines on “halting the growth of sharia courts and placing them under regulation” ensuring that school governance never falls into the hands of a single-minority group, “ensuring mosques that receive a steady flow of funds from foreign governments such as Saudi Arabia, however disguised, are forced to reduce their dependency on Wahhabi patronage” and an end to the “silence-for-votes understanding between local politicians and Muslim leaders — the sort of Pontius Pilate deal that had such catastrophic outcomes in Rotherham and Rochdale”.

Mr. Phillips’s comments echo those of the Czech president, and research from across Europe that revealed attitudes amongst Muslims on the continent have hardened. The younger the Muslim, the more likely they are to hold hard-line views, one recent study found.

-breitbart.com

 

 


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  • Really?

    Glad he’s finally realised.
    But why does it always take so much longer for those in power to work out that which is bleeding obvious to the rest of us.
    Now, where on this cycle of understanding are our leaders currently?

  • Bombastic

    Yet if I decided to take on four wives and treat them like chattels, the same liberal elites would be quick to brand me a poligamist, misoginistic sexist pig. You have to admire their double standards, they are quite breathtaking.

    • sandalwood789

      True, very true!

      Just watch Devoy and co spring into action if a white non-Muslim man threw gay people off buildings, slapped his wives around and said that women only have half the intelligence of men –
      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/women-worth-less.aspx

    • Andy

      You would have to be rich, therefore it wouldn’t matter your religion.

    • Oh Please

      Islam is so far right – anti-gay, anti-women, anti-every-other-nationality/religion, zero tolerence – it always amazes me that the left fall over themselves to support muslims. I’m reckoning best way to combat Islam is for JK to convert to it – immediate hatred from the msm would ensue.

  • Alan Beresford B’Stard

    Wow, this should be essential reading for everybody. What’s the bet it never sees the light in the MSM.

    • Carl

      I don’t usually do this but sent the article to Ali Mau asking her opinion of it as she is very vocal on bringing more of them into the country. Will await a reply with interest.

      • Alan Beresford B’Stard

        Yes, good luck with that.

      • Keyser Soze

        Yes. Of course. A white, privileged, lesbian woman advocating for the import of a culture that, without the shackles of western civilisation, would throw her from a building. Good luck with getting her to acknowledge

        • Andy

          Why not just wait and see…lol

      • kereru

        She’ll probably just chuck it in her ‘hate speech’ waste paper basket.

      • Duchess of Pork

        Not holding my breath either but have requested comment from Dame Devoy and Ms Smalley.

  • IKIDUNOT

    One would hope (expect?) that this report by a reputable? politician will be taken serious, not just in Britain but also in many other Western countries. Maybe it will help to turn the tide or in NZ’s case prevent the tide of building. Not holding my breath though….

  • Diehard

    Wow! Everything some of us have been saying for a long time looks like it will be proven correct. Europe is committing suicide, and much faster than I originally thought.

    How long before the same type admissions are made about the man made global warming conspiracy.

  • Orca

    Is he now going to be put on trial for the human rights abuses he has caused? Yeah Right!

    • duve

      It may seem a remote hope now, but sometime down the track people will be held to account. Angela Merkel is deserving of the honour of being first.

  • anniem

    Woopy-bloody-do, better late than never I suppose waking up from hibernation. Should be compulsory reading for everyone especially those from the left. As usual a right on the button post from SB.

  • Stephen Fuller

    I wonder what percentage of Moslem Women were included in the percentages in the article and if they were included, were they deciding out of fear?

  • Kevin

    I’m leaning towards halting all Muslim immigration or at least making it more difficult for Muslims to enter. Yes, it is punishing the majority for the sins of the minority, but in this case it’s justified.

    America, I believe, did it with communists during the Cold War, so why not with Muslims since we are at war with Islamism.

    • Richard McGrath

      That’s the critical point: we, the civilised West, are at war with the barbaric Islamists. And in times of war, the priority for our government lies in keeping New Zealanders safe. Stopping Muslim immigration, and deporting all radicalised Muslims, would be a good start.

  • Andinz

    Long time since Britain was invaded so they don’t remember. Was it Rome, or was it the Vikings? Nations such as Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Czech (Visegrad group) with strong leadership, and who know about invasions are dead against Islamic refugees. Good luck to them. Wonder if Germany has rejected the nazi “master race” ideology or, in a perverse reversal, are bringing in a replacement team with the same ideology. There is no doubt that wherever they are, and whatever their number, Islamists see themselves as the “master race”. It is only a matter of time for their breeding numbers to reach majorities in some European countries which have negative population growth. Then democracy will be replaced (democratically, of course) with the Islamic theocracy and non-muslims will have 3 choices – dhimmitude, conversion to Islam or die. Dhimmitude (submission) is already in evidence with jizya (sorry benefits) being paid to Allah’s followers right now.
    Depressing..

    • johnandali

      The problem has been caused by the low birth-rates in Western countries, leading to an ageing population. Each country needs a birth-rate of 2.2 children per couple. With homosexuality now being encouraged (at least it’s not compulsory – yet), that rate is now probably getting towards 2.5 children per couple. And our countries have nowhere near a 2.2 birth-rate, so the politicians decided that they would import young people from poor non-Western countries, with the expectation that they will quickly assimilate into the country’s culture and join the work-force, and maintain the population balance. And the result? Look at the UK. What did they do? They brought in people who had no intention of assimilating (or even of joining the work-force). We all know what countries and cultures they came from. What they should have done was to encourage their own people to have more children. But they didn’t. And now they are paying the price for their utter stupidity. And we will have to work hard to make sure our stupid politicians don’t do the same here.

    • veridian

      In a few days the first wave / group will be delivered to Dunedin and no doubt they will be greeted by their enablers and the chief idiot – Cull, waving their welcome banners and handing out sweets. It’s pathetic.

      • KatB

        Halal sweets I hope

        • Richard McGrath

          … and a tasty plate of pork chops

      • sandalwood789

        The local body elections are this year so if Dunedinites don’t want their city ending up like Karachi I hope they can find an anti-Islam mayoral candidate to stand.

      • veridian

        It now appears that 13 state houses of 3 and 4 bedrooms are being made available for the ‘first’ wave of Islamics. I find it incredible that these resources can be found so easily for refugees whilst locals in need are not treated so enthusiastically.

        http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/379506/refugees-offered-state-houses-video

    • kereru

      Not to mention the jizya of halal certification by western manufacturers.

  • Eddie

    How different is the Muslim community in NZ to that in the UK? Can we learn from this before it’s too late for us?

    • Huia

      I believe it is sleeping until the right time.
      They are very quiet in condemning attacks, they are bringing in extremist Mullahs for their ability to turn passive into extremist
      ie the Mosque in Avondale where the resident Mullah was badly beaten up as he wasn’t extremist enough, he has now gone quite (I guess he is outnumbered and things got very violent).
      You only have to see the hatred in the eyes poking out from amongst the black sack like robes to know it is going to end badly despite what the liberals say.
      We appear to have learned nothing from history at all, our ignorance is unbelievable when you realize that only 8% of the population in Germany were actually Nazi’s, the rest were peaceful people. But, that didn’t end well.
      Most of Idi Amin people were peaceful people, yet the minority of extremist activity and fighting created a bloodbath.
      China’s population was mainly wanting to live in peace and harmony as well, yet the Communist regime saw 70million people killed.
      Japan, a seemingly peaceful people slaughtered, tortured and murdered their way across the Pacific by a small percentage of the population.
      It will happen again, there is no compatibility between the East and the West. Each Western country is in extreme danger from the Daesh brainwashing that is going on, they are becoming more active now their trained terrorists have infiltrated the West in such vast numbers, yet with all the evidence of what is going on there are still the stupidity of the Liberals who are encouraging the demise of the Western Culture and the progress of mankind.
      I cannot get my head around the fact the European leaders have opened their borders to this kind of threat, and yet again we see Germany setting the stage for another world war in our fairly immediate future I think.

      • sandalwood789

        “…only 8% of the population in Germany were actually Nazi’s, the rest were peaceful people. But that didn’t end well.”

        Exactly!
        When people go on about the so-called “peaceful Muslims” I say that “gee, in 1939 I could have shown you millions of “peaceful Germans” too. Grocers, bakers, florists and so on. None of them would have killed anyone, but the ideology was still *evil*.”

        The same goes with Islam. The “peaceful Muslims” are irrelevant and they are only non-violent for as long as the imam “keeps them on the leash”. As soon as the imams want to get the Muslims fighting, they will show them the Koran verses that command Muslims to fight non-Muslims. They will also say that “if you don’t do this you’ll burn in hell.”

  • RG52

    How are the MSM going to be held accountable to ensure that they

    a). Print the story,

    b). If they do print it, then they do so accurately without leaving out the bits that contradict what they have been printing over the years?

    There must be somebody from the MSM that reads this blog to see what these nasty right of centre folk talk about, can you tell us what you intend to do to bring this to the attention of the general public?

  • rexabus

    The question is how do western countries turn it around while no leaders are willing to address it with realistic actions

  • sandalwood789

    “…important people still cling to the patronising certainty that British Muslims will, over time, come to see that “our” ways are better.”

    No, they **won’t**, and anyone who thinks they will is a naive fool.

    Muslims believe that the Koran is the “word of Allah” and (as such) is perfect. They will *not* swap the believed “perfection” of Islam for infidel ways.

  • Andy

    Map changing for sure.

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