He should stick to fostering relations with stenographers

Iain Lees-Galloway deployed an interesting trick in parliament yesterday as he used Grant Robertson to cover his tracks in the primary question then followed up with supplementary questions attacking Bill English.

Bill English refused to back down and painted an altogether different picture than the grandstanding of Iain Lees-Galloway.

You could tell it was a planned hit job because the Media party dutifully climbed in straight away.   

Finance Minister Bill English is not backing down from his comments that some Kiwis hunting for work are “pretty damned hopeless” and “can’t read and write properly”.

At a Federated Farmers meeting in Feilding last week English said there was a “cohort of Kiwis now” who couldn’t get a licence because they were illiterate and “don’t look to be employable”.

His comments were directed at “young males” who didn’t turn up to work or didn’t stay on when offered a job.

Labour MP Iain Lees-Galloway was at that meeting and says the deputy prime minister’s comments were a “disgrace”.

In Question Time on Wednesday Lees-Galloway asked English whether he stood by another statement from that meeting – that one of the reasons why immigration is “a bit more permissive” is because Kiwis are “pretty damned hopeless”.

English says those comments were supported by what the Government heard from dozens of New Zealand employers.

“…many of the people on our Ministry of Social Development list will not show up to the jobs they are offered and will not stay in the jobs that they are offered”.

He said that was a “realistic description of the problems we are dealing with” and if Lees-Galloway couldn’t handle that, then “he is out of touch”.

Good on Bill English for not caving in and actually stating some cold hard facts for Iain Lees-Galloway.

About the only thing Lees-Galloway excels at is boot-legging press gallery booze and fostering close relations with parliaments stenographers. His shabby little hit failed.

Bill English only stated the truth and any employer out there knows the truth of his statements.


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  • Alan Beresford B’Stard

    Seems you can’t even tell the truth these days in case someone gets hurty feelings.
    Good on English for saying it like it is. Anyone who’s employed young males in lower skilled jobs will know this is 100% true.

  • Brian Smaller

    Did anyone else seriously believe the gravitas that Galloway tried to impart when reading his questions? He is out of touch. I know half a dozen farmers in our valley alone who wont touch anyone sent from MSD for jobs – they are unreliable and if they show up to work they are probably stoned, and half the time have insufficient literacy to read and comprehend written instructions (on labels, machinery, form filling etc). These are young men in their early 20s – you know the ones that supposedly did most of their schooling in the years Labour was last in power.

  • jaundiced

    I like the way English clearly relishes these kinds of attempted hits.

    • Crowgirl

      You just knew he knew what was coming after Robertson’s question. There appeared to be a smirk when delivering his answer to it.

  • pzkpfw

    Comments on Stuff on this article are great, mass support for Mr English. Must annoy the Media Party.

  • iera

    • Iain Lees-Galloway deployed an interesting trick in parliament yesterday as he used Grant Robertson to cover his tracks in the primary question then followed up with supplementary questions attacking Bill English.

    Just how many incidents like these does one need before one gets the feeling Labour may be indulging in a Little Dirty Politics ?

    • R&BAvenger

      I see what you did there “a Little Dirty Politics”. Unless it was subliminal. In any case I think there is no ‘a little’ with their dirty politics, it is all dirty, full stop. Hence the 2014 election result.

  • Grizz30

    Bill English may have a harsh assessment of a segment of the community but many will agree with him. Much of the unemployed are essentially the unemployable.

  • George Carter

    A friend of mine used to be a recruiter who dealt in temp labour for construction and industry. When he told me how many people just don’t show for a days work, or leave half way through I was amazed. If these people are unemployable on a temp basis why on earth would a company take them on full time!

  • Wheninrome

    Certainly an issue up here in the North on farms. I think they wish they could get some workers from the Phillipines to work on the dairy farms

    • Aucky

      Ask any employer and they will tell you that Filipinos are head and shoulders the best workers that you can employ. They make great immigrants – law abiding, family oriented and hardworking. Ask any teacher about their Filipino kids – well behaved, polite, respectful, keen to learn and a great home environment.

      • Really? Well given that I have had a number of Filipino’s as staff in the last few years I’m happy to tell you that that’s as big a load of racist BS as anything else I’ve ever heard.

        Many have been surly unskilled despite so called qualifications, lazy, useless, unionised, entitled and quite frankly no better than anyone else and in many cases not as good.

        I’m sick and tired of this garbage that has no basis in fact.

  • Wheninrome

    Unfortunately wars sorted these issues out, cannon fodder, go over the top or be shot as a deserter. Character building and certainly created loyalty and a sense of worth which for the main resulted in people valuing their job in the ensuing peacetime.

  • Mr_Blobby

    Sadly this is true.

    Check out our hospitals and rest homes to name a few, flooded with foreign workers.

    Why because the locals do not want to do it.

    Off shore fishing, response our boys do not want to go fishing.

    Worse the system supports them, they have rights, they have entitlements, they can do what they like, there is no disincentive.

    • Aucky

      Sad but true Mr B and the problem runs a little deeper. Would you as a resthome resident prefer to be looked after by a compassionate and enthusiastic Filipino caregiver or a reluctant WINZ referral? Would you as a fishing fleet owner want your multi-milllion dollar high teck trawlers manned for lengthy periods at sea by anyone less than highly skilled crewmen working all out to secure their bonuses?

  • OneTrack

    Once again we see Labour are the party of political correctness, where self-evident truths must be denied.

    • MaryLou

      You mean the party of bludgers, losers, the entitled and – don’t forget – criminals.

  • cows4me

    So who is Galloway preaching to, what an idiot. Does he honestly believe these lazy illiterate bums will be hanging off his every word and vote retard ? While Galloway is busy defending the hapless the hapless aren’t about to get off the arses and support his cause, what a waste of space.

    • Tiger

      Yes, this disconnect is astounding.

    • Aucky

      Carmel Sepuloni obviously thinks so judging by her attempted hit job this afternoon on Bill English. A failed hit job needless to say.

  • Totara

    The biggest issue here, that the National government hasn’t actually woken up to, is that there are now many more people with an Employment Resistant Personality Profile today as a direct result of over-generous welfare policies.

    Much of this inter-generational problem can be laid directly at the feet of previous Labour governments, but National has been far too slow to turn the tide.

    • MaryLou

      Great links, and interesting that science is confirming “gut feelings”. It matches what I see on a daily basis, and as such have no problem accepting the theory. Good finds!

  • Huia

    What Galloway is missing is that a whole raft of people do not want to work.
    They do not like to be told what to do, they have no intention of conforming to what the owner of the business requires.
    The big one he has missed is, hundreds of these yobs would not pass a drug test so their options are limited, yet they still carry on about not be able to get a job.
    Labour’s mollycoddling is an enabler. It enables them to live quite well on the benefit, enables them to breed while sponging off others hard earned money and by cozying up to criminals they are excusing their anti social behavior there for encouraging that behavior and enabling them to continue with it.

    • WBC

      Ha ha. That’s awesome. I hadn’t thought of it in those terms. Not only do the normal hardworking, vastly more intelligent then any current Labour MP – except maybe for Shearer and Goff- not like being told what to do by Labour, but nor do the wasters they rely on for votes!

      So really, if it is to support it’s remaining fan base Labour has to come out and say that they don’t really mind inter-generational devolution of certain parts of humanity and will fund them through their return to the wild.

    • Woody

      Today Bill English stayed on course during another similar attack and added in the bit about failing drug tests.

  • Keanne Lawrence

    Question time yesterday was a another bad day for the Mud Mob in yet another bad week. Little, Shaw as well as the combo of Robbo and Lees-Galloway struggled to get traction.
    Glad to see Bill English still calls a spade a spade while the majority are aware that with unemployment level dropping it is largely the unemployable or wont work residue that make up the numbers.

  • D.Dave

    The main problem is that they can’t pass the “pee in the bottle” test . They have to do it to hold down many different jobs, and they should have to do it to get a benefit. If you aren’t drug free, I don’t want to give you money to sit on your backside, while I am out working.

  • Positan

    After so many, many Labour bumbles, you’d think those desperate Labour twits would have the sense to think through to the possibility of reverse effects which might be created via their intended “clever” stratagems.

    But no – they seem completely intent on ensuring the train-wreck they’re so hell-bent on creating.

  • FornaK

    Do any employers or bosses have any examples we can back up Bill’s comments with?
    It’d reinforce the the point to our left leaning readers, that there really are 5% of people that are unemployable.

  • Ruahine

    I understand that in Southland there are at least 1500 Fillipinos milking cows because the farmering employers can not get people to get up at 5am nearly everyday in the dark and cold and then also not finish work until after 6pm when there is a second milking.

    If that is bad enough try finding anyone that is reliable truthful won’t steal your equipment and turn up for work from WINZ for more than a week.
    We even have to offer work to tourists to pick the Cherries and the Apples and the grapes.

    Labour MPs bludgers and bludgers friends.