Palestinians claim internationally protected right to murder Israeli civilians

Killing civilians has always been something frowned on morally, even in a time of war. Yes it has happened but usually civilian casualties occurred not deliberately but as collateral damage when a military target was hit. When civilians were targeted deliberately, like the bombing of Hiroshima for example, the goal was to end the war with Japan. The Americans succeeded in their aim but, even though it is argued that more lives were saved than lost by their actions, it is still unquestionably a war crime to massacre civilians like they did.

The Palestinian authority are actually seeking approval under international law to continue their terrorism against Israeli citizens. Fire bombing buses, stabbing grandmothers as they do their shipping, killing mothers and fathers inside their cars as their young children watch in horror, stabbing a middle-aged man as he collects for charity at a local store, running over pedestrians with cars and on and on it goes.

The Palestinian Authority has claimed for years that they have a right under international law, confirmed by a UN resolution, to kill Israeli civilians in all places and at all times.

Now the PA is taking its ideology to the international forum and seeking recognition for these fundamental principles of PA ideology. They are asking that Palestinians have an internationally protected right to murder Israeli civilians, that will also be recognized as a positive act that should be awarded.

As a means to attain this recognition, the PA is asking the international community to award an imprisoned Palestinian terrorist with the Nobel Peace Prize.

-palwatch.org

 


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  • rua kenana

    Just as well the Nobel Peace Prize is the only Nobel prize awarded in Oslo, Norway, rather than Stockholm, Sweden.
    If it were awarded in Sweden as of now, probably an imprisoned Palestinian terrorist would be a sure winner.

    • kereru

      It’s not without a precedent. In 1994 Yasser Arafat was awarded the Nobel prize for peace, along with Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin, for their joint work for peace.

      This was despite Arafat’s comment on Jordan TV on the very day he signed the Oslo Accord in September 1993 that, “Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel.”

      The Nobel Prize for peace has been hijacked, as has much else.

      • Chinaman

        SB,in the 19th century and even WW1 killing civilians in war was not the done thing,but come WW2 this quaint thinking was put in the dustbin and the gloves came off.

        Early in the Allied bombing campaign the aim was to target German factories but it was soon realized that this was ineffectual due to the inaccuracy of the bombers of the time..so the strategy was changed to carpet bomb cities with the aim to demoralize the civilian population.

        There was hardly a German city spared with the most well known cases being the fire bombing of Dresden and Hamburg with tens of thousands of mostly civilian casualties.

        As for the ethics of it,Bomber Harris said the words ”the enemy sowed the wind and now are reaping the whirlwind”..in other worlds..you started it and we finishing it (no place for morals or ethics in total war)

        • Toasty

          The Germans also bought it upon themselves with the in discriminant bombing of London and the rest of the UK early in the war. I guess it wasn’t difficult for the Allies to say “to hell with it, lets just bomb them all”.

          • sandalwood789

            “The Germans also bought it upon themselves with the in discriminant bombing of London..”

            Agreed. I’m pretty sure that the German cities were only bombed *after* “the Blitz”. “Bomber” Harris’ quote that Chinaman mentioned backs that up.

  • johnandali

    Have a look at today’s Herald on-line, and you’ll see an article by Rachel Smalley. Guess which country she is condemning? Not a word about the real problems in this world or the Middle East. Not a word about the stated aims of Iran and Hezbollah and Hamas to destroy Israel. Only a criticism about Israel – and some misinformed rubbish as well. And that’s what is being fed to New Zealanders. Biased, bigoted rubbish.

    • R&BAvenger

      There’s a great post by Kereru in this morning’s General Debate on this very issue.

    • kereru

      It really amounts to little more than propaganda masquerading as informed comment.

  • Isherman

    I hope Marwan Bargouti is awarded the Nobel Prize, so that there can be no remaining doubt that the once esteemed Nobel prize, along with the UN itself has ceased to have any credibility whatsoever.

    • MaryLou

      Surely even our government couldn’t ignore that.

      Funny though, even in writing that I couldn’t convince myself.

    • rexabus

      The world’s fast becoming that mad that it’s entirely likely he will get it.

  • kereru

    On the same topic, a revealing article about the anti-Israel money trail.

    ‘Where do anti-Israel organizations get their funding? Brett Stephens of the Wall Street Journal exposes links to terror organizations behind SJP (Students for Justice in Palestine) and other “BDS” related organizations. Alternate link here:

    http://archynewsy.com/the-anti-israel-money-trail-wall-street-journal/

  • Urbanviper

    Maybe I am cynical but polls put him as more popular than Mahmoud Abbas and 60% of Palestinians would vote for him today if he stood for president. Unlikely to ever happen but he has a strong cult following. So what does Mahmoud Abbas do? Kicks the hornet’s nest and reminds Israel they have this terrorist in jail. Marwan Barghouti won’t be traded away any time soon.

  • rua kenana

    It greatly helps to read one’s Bible to get the right idea about who should murder who.
    e.g. Leviticus Chap 26, vs 7-9 commands the Israelis to:
    “You will chase your enemies, and they shall fall by the sword before you.
    Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight; your enemies shall fall by the sword before you.
    For I will look on you favorably and make you fruitful, multiply you and confirm My covenant with you. You shall eat the old harvest, and clear out the old because of the new.”

    My sense of fairness suggests anyone taking this advice is appalling, but no worse than others doing likewise in the past have been.
    After all, it was the Israelis who genocided the Amalekite people to grab their bit of land in the first place, and the Israelis who were kicked out of Egypt because their god murdered all of the Egyptians’ firstborn children. And who were later enjoined by Jesus in his Sermon on the Mount to follow the even then wellknown golden rule to “do to others as you would have them do to you”.

    • WBC

      Yep. All ancient beliefs of ignorant tribes are equally stupid. But that does not assist in assessing what is fair and just now that we have no excuse to be so ignorant.

      It is those who still try to hold onto these old ramblings that continue to act inhumanely. The actions of Hamas are not in any way justifiable.

      I think people like Smallie back them because their ability to reason is severely inhibited and they then fall for the whole guilt thing, much like the bit the left push about successful people being evil, it extends to successful cultures. In this retarded viewpoint that means that brutal subhuman and inhumane points of view are the only valid ones.

    • kereru

      It greatly helps to read one’s Bible to get the right idea about who should murder who.

      It greatly helps to not only read, but understand, the Bible to get the frame of reference correct. Dippers into Bible texts are unable to see the whole picture in the context of the times, because that requires in-depth study of the Scriptures, which they aren’t prepared to do. I’m no theologian, but by studying one book of the Bible for a year, as I’ve been doing for the last 8 years, does help. It is also very worthwhile to study the commentaries of Biblical scholars on the meaning and context of every word and every phrase of the text, taken from the original Hebrew or Greek, and put the event into its historical setting.

      That said, the injunctions on the Israelites which you quote from Leviticus 26:7-9 were for a time, place and circumstance. The Israelites had been promised the land of Canaan way back in Genesis, and they were now about to fulfill that promise more than 400 years later. The Canaanites were no angels, sacrificing babies and toddlers in the fire to appease their pagan gods, amongst other detestable practices. The Amalekites, descended from Amalek, the grandson of Esau, were a nomadic people who attacked the Israelites and raided their flocks. There was no ‘grabbing their land’. Where do you get your information from?

      Lastly, the historical narrative in the Old Testament is entirely descriptive – not prescriptive – any more than, say, the command to “Charge!” during the Battle of the Somme. Applying your view of bronze age Biblical events, you should assume it is still an injunction to fire at the Germans.

      • kereru

        Just one more thing – Jesus did not preach the Golden Rule in His Sermon on the Mount. His preaching was much more profound and far reaching than that. Look up Matthew Chapter 5.

        The Sermon on the Mount

        Seeing the crowds, he went up on the mountain, and when he sat down, his disciples came to him.

        The Beatitudes

        2 And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying:

        3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

        4 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

        5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

        6 “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.

        7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

        8 “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

        9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons[a] of God.

        10 “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

        11 “Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

        • rua kenana

          Try Luke 6 (v 31 for the golden rule) which is an alternative account of the same presumed event as the Matthew version you quote.
          In any event that rule was a well-known guide to reasonable human behaviour long before the time of Jesus, who didn’t show much originality with his reported rendition. It appears in early Baylonian literature, also in the Analects of Confucius, and a variety of other sources.

          • kereru

            Of course the Golden Rule is an ancient precept. That doesn’t invalidate the Sermon on the Mount, nor does it appear there as you stated. With respect, it is you who have been cherry picking.

          • rua kenana

            Who’s claiming invalidating the Sermon on the Mount?
            Your concentration on the Matthew version as the definitive source is disappointing from someone claiming to studied one book in the bible each year for eight years. But apparently haven’t got as far as Luke yet.
            And in your claim about texts from original Hebrew and Greek seems for unknown reasons to omit Aramaic.
            If you’re want to be tied up with your hermeneutic view of life as some guide to your future then that’s great for you.Great for me too if you lay off the proselytising.
            The reported burblings of some deluded viatic rabbi in the middle east area a couple of millennia ago, including some totally bizarre claim to be produced by a virgin, provides no useful guide to the future. There’s been plenty of those types throughout history. One of the more interesting in more recent years is the rather incredible story of Canudos in Brazil around 1895 and the followers of Antonio the Counsellor who died fighting to the last man in defence of their prophet, something the followers of the alleged Jesus never did.
            None of these characters have ever made the world a better place and never will. About on a par with the ravings of an illiterate desert merchant about 700AD who heard voices in his head, headed off to a cave in the mountains near Mecca and realised it was the archangel Gabriel telling him to found a new religion, the last and final religion, complete with paedophilia, subjugation of women, genital mutilation, genocide, and a quite a variety of other unpleasant activities. Activities which Christians have also been happy to follow from time to time.
            Personally I like to see this WO blog as a right-wing, largely political blog concerned with good government, and would prefer it if the religious stuff were tossed in the garbage can where it belongs.

      • rua kenana

        Cherry-picking the Bible to get the results you want is on a par with cherry-picking the Koran to show what a great religion is Islam.
        Neither in my view offers a promising way forward for the human race.

        Justifying appalling atrocities by claiming divine authority, which so many individuals and peoples have done and still do, as you note above, suggests to me that the world would have been better off in the past, and now, if all of this divine authority bunch were put on an island somewhere to kill each other off and leave the rest of the world to their legitimate affairs.

    • kereru

      Just one more thing – Jesus did not preach the Golden Rule in His Sermon on the Mount. His preaching was much more profound and far reaching than that.

      The Sermon on the Mount
      Matthew Ch 5:

      Seeing the crowds, he went up on the mountain, and when he sat down, his disciples came to him.

      The Beatitudes

      2 And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying:

      3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

      4 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

      5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

      6 “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.

      7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

      8 “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

      9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons[a] of God.

      10 “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

      11 “Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

  • sandalwood789

    Check out this page – it is *outstanding* and one of the best I’ve seen on the “Palestinians” –
    http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/01/09/palestinians-invented-people/

    • kereru

      Brilliant, sandalwood. Have you seen the photos of the Holy Land taken in the 19th century and early 20th? A wasteland with nomadic Bedouin encampments, fetid swamps and barren hillsides. The Dome of the Rock lies neglected, with broken tiles and weeds among the flagstones. And between the Temple Mount and the Wailing Wall is a slum.

      http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~dhershkowitz/index2.html

  • Andinz

    The PA have cropped the UN resolution to suit themselves. If this report is to be believed, the PA is about to ask the international forum (whoever they are) to become Islamists. In this crazy world they must feel that they have some chance of success. But IMHO this may be the PA taking stock of what the world thinks of their own crazed pursuit of killing Israelis. Crazed because if they had used the monetary aid given them they could have similar standards of living to Israelis. Crazed because this improved living is not as important as killing Jews – which puts them nearer to Islamic heaven.
    History is important but everyone has their own version and the experiences of generations declines in importance after the current one. If you (rua k) trace your DNA back far enough I am sure that you could find some genocidal ancestors. Forget them and get on with what is right in this world today.

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