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  • Nechtan

    Born today in 1935 Peter Grant best known as the manager of Led Zeppelin. He has been widely credited with changing the way groups dealt with record companies and promoters. He demanded and got 90% of the gate at concerts, (unheard off at the time bands would be lucky to get 40%), and complete artistic freedom for the Led Zeppelin around releases, singles, recording, etc.

    Born today in 1939 singer Crispian St. Peters (born Robin Peter Smith)

    Born today in 1942 Allan Clarke lead vocalist (1962-1971) with The Hollies.

    Born today in 1948 Dave Holland drummer with Trapeze and later incarnations of Judas Priest.

    Today in 1981 Canned Heat singer Bob “The Bear” Hite died of a heart attack aged 36.

    Died today in 1998 drummer Collin “Cozy” Powell in a car accident aged 50. Cozy had worked with Black Sabbath, Whitesnake, Rainbow, Peter Green, Jeff Beck and Emerson, Lake And Powell among others and solo.

    • willtin

      Canned Heat still rocks the Blues in my life; t’was my second album (I think it was an EP)purchase ever. Played a cd in my car last week or so.

  • Nige.

    ex-JAFA answered last night’s question with:

    “I’d only need one”

    What have you never (or even seldom) had to replace?

    • Gourmet


      • willtin

        So you are an Islamphobic? Your suggestion excludes the plurality of options.

    • Ross

      My bagpipes… they’re 112 years old, and can’t imagine I’d ever want or need to replace them.

      • XCIA

        My Henderson’s are about the same age, but I guess there were times when the neighbour’s wished they could be replaced.

        • Ross

          Haha ditto! Funnily enough, mine are Henderson’s too.. Silver/ivory?

          • XCIA

            Ivory, reamed out to the old MacDougal bore size with the original reamers. I did have a silver set that saw some action with the BW, but I gifted them to an old friend who was going back to Glasgow.

          • Ross

            Fair enough – there’s not too many around of that vintage – I hope you treasure them as I do mine!

      • WeaselKiss

        Come and play them right outside my house.
        And then come in for bacon, eggs and coffee.
        Like, anytime.

    • Huia

      My sewing machine, have had it for 53 years.
      Don’t want a new one I am happy with my Swiss Bernina. Solid, heavy as heck, no plastic or nylon bits, just good Swiss workmanship.
      Mind you I’ve had to have it serviced twice.

      • Nechtan

        I recently arranged for my daughter to have my mother’s Bernina (similar age machine as yours) As you say solid as a rock and heavy, but still purring along as well as the day it was bought.

      • Isherman

        Mums still got the old Singer foot pedal job. From memory its a model 27, an 1890’s model which still works fine, though she did also get a Bernina back in the 80’s, we used to get in trouble as kids fooling around trying to see how fast we could crank it:)

        • willtin

          The old ‘treadles’ were/are works of art.

    • Dave

      My original analogue Ohm meter, had it since i started my apprenticeship, its been looked after, and still works perfectly. After purchasing it, i replaced the soft case for a custom made leather case, its still as good as new.

    • Nige.

      I only need one blog.

      • XCIA

        That sounds like an outside dunny ;-)

    • Isherman

      My Welsh slate whetstone, it was my great grandfathers originally and its still got plenty of life in it.

    • Asian_driver

      Fluke 73 bought in 1985

    • Never felt the need to replace my ex wife……Well you asked!

    • Salami Warning

      My Whaleoil identity.

      • [MOD] Hmmmmm?

    • Spiker

      My Ruger Mk2.

    • Lux

      My addiction to Whale Oil Beef Hooked..

    • hookerphil

      My running singlet.

      • Nige.

        Is that because it stays in the drawer?

        • hookerphil

          Since 2003 – tendons kept giving up – biking now.

    • Curly1952

      My wife (never replaced)

    • johnandali

      My Japanese National clock radio (AM/FM) with battery backup, purchased in Singapore in 1981. Still works perfectly and keeps perfect time after 35 years. Mind you, I’ve had to change the 9-volt battery quite a few times, but it’s handy to have it, because if there is a power cut, the clock will show the correct time when the power comes on again. Amazing technology for the time.

  • Carl

    That’s unfortunate. (pic)

  • George

    Susan Devoy: “Racial profiling can ruin lives”: NZH

    Having read her comments relating to this issue I became rather irritated, so I will respond:

    Is this racial profiling or fact? One ethnicity leads in almost all of the crime statistics which include murdering children, murdering adults, serious assaults, theft, drug manufacturing and distribution, serious assaults on women, rape, car conversion and social benefit fraud. Why? Because we promote them as victims of an unjust society. We patronise them with our sympathy and justification. We continue to promote excuses for their behaviour. We don’t treat them as equal but as a group incapable of advancing by referring to injustices of 150 years ago. We advocate on their behalf. We provide bottomless pits of guilt money. We provide political favours and ethnic preferential treatment.

    Quite frankly, if I was continually reminded of how incapable and disadvantaged I was by all and sundry, I too, would want to opt out of this dysfunctioning society, and pronto. So Susan, this ethnicity really would like to get on with their lives. They don’t need your help nor your patronising comments. What they do want is for you “do gooder” pakehas to butt out of their lives. If you feel guilty, see a therapist.

    • Nige.

      What you say is so true. The evidence is in the Maori who i met while i was in Australia. They said that part of the reason they left new zealand was to “get away from all that”.

      • Dave

        Not too sure about that Nige, oh so many Maori over here moan and groan about anything and everything, the Aussie Government, exporting Kiwi Crims, the NZ Government, JK, cost of living, and the low rates of social welfare. there are a lot of hard working Maori, but just as many who seem perfectly accustomed to moan and groan, i wonder where they learnt those skills?

    • kereru

      I saw Susan D is grinning from the front cover of a women’s magazine this morning. Her article is all about how she copes with negativity and criticism. Apparently it’s annoying but she doesn’t let it bother her at all. Judging by your post, is there any need for a Race Relations Commissioner or is she just stirring the pot?

      • Isherman

        Trough…not pot. There, fixed it for you.

  • ex-JAFA

    Oh dear. Bouncy Bradford thinks that Helen Clark is a former head of state. I think we would’ve heard about it if she were.

    • willtin

      Damn, I could bounce some abuse about here, but I respect our standards on WO.

      • cows4me

        She’d kill you.

        • willtin

          What? Cry myself to death?

          • cows4me

            I thought you were talking about her bouncy bits.

          • willtin

            That’s udderly ridiculous of you, cows

          • cows4me


          • you guys…….lololol

  • Steve

    Rumour has it, that after several years of significant house price increases and a commission rate of 4% plus for selling a house (one of the highest in the world) in an environment wher prices have increased significantly, Barfoot and Thompson have today decided not to pay any salary increases this year.
    The directors,Gary, Kiri and Peter must be so proud of that

    • Nige.

      Rumour? This blog isn’t known for getting excited about them.

    • willtin

      We hope to hear tomorrow that our sale has gone through, enabling our purchase of another. Both sales achieved ‘privately’.

    • willtin

      I once spent months in the RE industry, in apparently the largest downturn in the era. No salary then. It was commission only for most salespeople.

      • Steve

        This is in relation to the salaried admin staff etc

  • Dave

    There has been some debate on here previously around dash cams, which one to get, and are they any good. This is why we have one, the guy in the commodore probably wishes he had one as well. Yesterday, one of the service vans was returning to work, a 50km/h street, and this happened…..

    NB: Suggest Full screen, speed and time in bottom corner. watch closely and to the right of the frame from 2 seconds

    • Spiker

      Was he hurt? Looks like he rolled off quite well.

      • Dave

        I wasn’t there, our employee said he was walking holding his back and moaning, but managed to keep moving. A lot of people rushed out of houses, and he eventually lay down. The driver was described as shell shocked. Both declined assistance, so over to them, they have our details if they need a copy for any future action.

        • Spiker

          Well hopefully a lesson was learn’t from the event.

    • Justme

      It doesn’t matter as to whether you are on foot, a bike or in a car, LOOK before you leap.
      As a cyclist I reckon the guy had a death wish, as he tried to cross into the path of both vehicles. Muppet, muppet, muppet.

    • Keyser Soze

      What are the details of the camera system you use?

  • cows4me

    Just listened to Nathan Guy on Larry Williams, he’s been down to Morrinsville talking to Dairy farmers on how to battle the downturn and what we need to do to survive. A lot of back to the past to beat the future. The minister talked about why dairy farming is struggling, high land prices, high debt, low commodity prices, inefficient high input feed systems etc. Yes no doubt all very true but being the good little government minister he totally failed to mention a very large elephant in the room. The ever increasing tax burdens, Levis, compliance costs, rates, those never ending parasitic organs of government. Nathan Guy another minister from the party for business and cutting red tape, another minister full of it. Farmers are been squeezed dry and our greatest threat is government in every form that also believes the pot of gold will never dry up. Want to help farmers minister, call your legions of parasites off, rein in local government and cut the bloody socialism.

    • Not just farmers mate. All of us. Woodhouse’s moronic new H & S rules have already created a new industry of jobsworths, heard an outfit on ZB this morning celebrating…errr…advertising their consultancy business with scaremongering tactics as to why you need to get them to do your plan to protect the fleet owners from the new H&S nazis if one of your morons….errr employees has a crash.

      Gimme strength.

      • cows4me

        Yeah of course you are right Wallace, all business will suffer under this madness. What hurts is National stood on a platform of cutting red tape and what do the noddys do. I have friends that spend a lot of time in Aussie working for various oil related companies. They speak of the totally insanity H&S has become in Aussie. One described the Australians as totally anal when it came to H&S and has said it’s got to a stage where business is failing to function properly as everyone spends the day covering their arses . Profitability is suffering, a job that took one hour takes three and at twice the cost. Our elected representatives have become fat and lazy and are looking more like the socialist drongos every day, they have forgotten what it’s like to actually try and produce something.

        • Richard

          Bingo and in our industry, all this new compliance cost will transfer directly to the client, when for years Government has been talking about ways to bring house construction costs down.

        • I come from mining and major earthmoving projects.
          I currently work for an Aussie outfit and trust me, its worse than your mate describes.

          The man in the field…..THE FIELD for crying out loud has up to 7 forms I can name off the top of my head that need to be filled out daily before he dare pick up a shovel.

          And if he doesn’t and some clip board carrying hi viz wearing dimwitted university educated woman that can’t do his job but knows how to tell him he’s doing it wrong wanders along god help him and his boss.
          He’ll be thrown off the project and his boss censured all because a laborer failed to tick the right box on the right form.

          Then the company moans at them for lack of production.
          And I’m not exaggerating!

          • cows4me

            Surely our well paid idiots knew all this but still they had to prove their stupidity. I don’t know what the answer is Wallace but H&S better tread lightly when it comes to farming, some are already on a very short fuse.

          • I don’t know the answer either and in fact its almost impossible to come up with one.

            There is no way (I’ve tried) you can rattle the cages of the inherent stupidity of some of the rules. There are H&S rules in our industry which are actually increasing risk but again, dare to raise it (and I have) and you’ll be marginalized at best and potentially labeled a cowboy or callous and uncaring, a stirrer or worse.

            Potentially lose your position and be blacklisted by the industry.
            H&S is almost solely populated by women and ponces these days with absolutely no field experience and huge chips on their shoulders.

          • cows4me

            I think they deliberately hire women in the belief they won’t get dealt to by those sick to death with their crap.
            You are right about the rules actually creating greater risk. Cousin had to shut down a rig in Queensland because of human error and it wasn’t even his shift. Someone stuffed up and the alarm was pushed. All workers like good little unthinking robots reported to their safety station. The rig was close to exploding when cousin shut it down but was told not to approach it by the brainwashed fools standing around. He should of got the sack but the company realized he had saved them a few million dollars. The real story here was the blind obedience of the younger crew to rules that have no place for common sense.

        • Cadwallader

          There is one aspect of this which makes NZ’s H&S rules even more insane than those in OZ and USA. In NZ we have ACC which precludes personal injury by accident claims entering the general insurance market. The payouts through ACC are tiny compared to those achieved in other jurisdictions. One of the justifications for the introduction of ACC back in the 1970s was the new corporation’s role in prevention of accidents. THAT worked well didn’t it?

          • hookerphil

            ACC increased “accidents” sore back = gardening etc.

          • Michelle

            if you are self employed and suffer an injury and over a certain age, like l am
            So l am getting told “No it is not caused from injury but age related” or something along those lines so if l want to get my injury fixed l have to pay or join the hospital queue
            But at the end of every year the ACC letter comes along that they need more money than they have taken already

            l have seen employees get their claims sorted no matter what age, or so it seems to me

      • MaryLou

        But unfortunately true Wallace – a vehicle is now a workplace, and until a few cases make it through the system, none of us really know how the law will be applied in practice. And a bit like the forestry industry, you now have staff out of sight, operating “machinery” – and you are liable for their safety. I wouldn’t suggest panic, but sure as hell bears thinking about…

  • Dave

    a Kiwi died in an Aussie detention center late yesterday, so Kelvin Davis is moaning again, and just so Kelvin can’t let the facts get in the way of a moan, here are some additional facts.

    1) He was a criminal, pursued by police after failing to stop, and got a 2 year sentence. (a younger man with the same surname is still locked up for Murder)
    2) A few weeks prior to his release he was informed tata, your visa is revoked and you’reoff to NZ CuzzyBro. He was transferred to Detention upon his release.
    3) He refused the opportunity to go back to NZ and appeal from there, so was held at the Villawood detention center.
    4) He had been in Aussie since 1989, and never bothered to get Aussie Citizenship, even though it was EASY and Cheap back then. (NB: I arrived in 1995, got citizenship several years later, it was easy,unless one had a poor CRIMINAL record!!!)
    4) It appears at this stage, he died of a heart attack, natural causes.

    What is it with the special entitled kind of stupid these moaners are thinking they have the right to change the laws of another country, just because it does not suit their way of life or desire to commit crime in their adopted country without any consequences. Or should I take the message that these moaners seem to think the world revolves around whatever they want, and demand, as they are accustomed to getting in NZ.



    Condolences to the family for their loss.

    • Richard

      I imagine personal choices led to the bad state of health which caused his demise?

      In any case, Kelvin will claim he has died of a broken heart due to his unfair incarceration.

      • Dave

        Kelvin forgets, the kind Australian Government will arrange their immediate release from detention IF they agree to return to whanau in NZ. They can appeal from there if they wish, but this one and hundreds more chose to stay at Villawood.


    I tweeted Peter Dunne the other day in regards to Pennsylvania adding Autism as a Qualifying Condition for Medical Cannabis, instead i was told it won’t happen here, maybe Peter Dunne should see how autism sufferers live, the US or the home of the War on Drugs is allowing Autism sufferers access to cannabis to treat their mood swings and etc

    Btw this month is Autism Awareness Month


      Also what Cannabis and I mean Cannabis medicine gives a Autism sufferer, the ability to control their mood swings, helps them in any social situation, it basically allows them to function like a normal person

      Basically its not being used recreationally

    • willtin

      Don’t bother; Dunne has his own agenda, and it isn’t about natural medicines for people suffering illness.

  • Isherman

    Regarding the Panama Papers thing, I’ve just had a look at the ICIJ (Int’l Consortium of Investgative Journalists) website and had a look at the full list of “Reporting Partners”. What jumps out among all the publications that I’m even vaguely familiar with is that they appear to all be left leaning outlets, which I’m sure is just..ya know, a coincidence. Snigger.

    • cows4me

      Yeah lot of leftys hiding from the taxman Isherman, fancy that. You would think being socialists they would be keen to pay their fair share, bloody scumbag hypocrites.

    • Hard1

      Considering the following, is there any reason to be surprised
      “Every single one of the major media outlets is controlled by this powerful interlocking combine. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Time, Newsweek, U.S. News & World Report, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, The Chicago Tribune—even such “regional” giants as The New Orleans Times-Picayune, The Miami Herald, The San Diego Herald-Tribune. . . . The list goes on and on. And these media powerhouses control dozens— actually thousands—of other daily and weekly newspapers, magazines, and radio and television outlets across America (and around the globe).

      The average American has no idea that super-rich predators with names like Rockefeller, Rothschild, Bronfman, Newhouse, Murdoch and Redstone are making vast profits and achieving immense power through their stranglehold on the American media (and, increasingly, on media around the globe.)

      • Isherman

        Well, we know that there is more left leaning media in the world than centre right, so its not really surprising. As for the ‘average american’, that might have something to do with their ‘average general knowledge’, which is generally pretty average indeed.

    • Kev

      Speaking of left leaning outlets, I noticed the headline on page 1 of the business section of the Herald today proclaims “NZ complicit in tax avoidance”. Please correct me if I’m wrong but I’d always believed tax avoidance is legal. I’m allowed to avoid paying any more tax than I have to within the law. What isn’t legal is tax evasion whereby someone employs any and all means to evade paying their fair share.
      A small point I know and I’m being pedantic but can’t “skilled” journos use the proper term for the crooks who evade fulfilling their obligations?

      • Isherman

        It’s an error of terminology that has plagued them for ages…I’ve always suspected that they simply treat avoidance as comparably bad as evasion.

      • Wayne Hodge

        The skilled media conflate the two elements to further their inherent left agendas. They assume that many people will not be able to differentiate between the two terms, witness many in the NZ MSM

  • XCIA

    Imagine the health benefits here, eating all the extra cabbage, chili’s and capsicum’s. Its a few years old, so apologies if you have seen it before.

  • benniedawg

    On my drive home today I tuned into RNZ the panel. I was somewhat appalled to hear the female guest panelist refer to the Prime Minister as a twat for his likening of Helen Clark’s nomination to head of the UN to the success of Lorde and Lydia Ko. Maybe I am just too sensitive but I found the comment offensive and lacking basic respect. To publicly refer to our head of state in this manner on national radio smacks of very poor judgement. A, From the the person that made the comment and B, The pathetic twat whipped presenter who let this statement go to air. NZ really does deserve better than RNZ as it exists at present.

    • Frank N Further

      A point of order; the Prime Minister is not our Head of State. Not withstanding this I agree with your sentiments.

      • R&BAvenger

        I think one of the lefties proclaiming Saint Helen’s bid for the UN job (Ms Keplar-Vest?) referred to her as former HoS as well. IIRC, that title in the NZ context would fall upon our former Governors General, would it not?

        • ex-JAFA

          I heard Katie Bradford say it, but I’d be far from surprised if other ignorami didn’t also. No, GGs aren’t Heads of State; they’re merely his/her domestic representative if the HoS is resident overseas, as the Queen of New Zealand is.

          • R&BAvenger

            OK, I was thinking the Queen, so equivalent would be President in nations that are a republic.

    • Usaywot

      The Panel is full of rabid lefties so I don’t listen anymore. It is a sorry excuse of a programme. And the lefties all sound so smug and self righteous and pleased with themselves.

      • benniedawg

        Have to agree with your evaluation of what was once a reasonably balanced sounding board. Same with the listener comments the morning presenters put to air. All largely rabid lefty rants. This is everyone’s radio station! We pay for it! Time those pushing out all the lefty negative hype had a bit of a re-think if they want to hold onto, or grow their ratings. Voters other than the left need value also for their hard earned dollars paid in tax. Something tells me not to hold my breath on the resolution of this one though.

  • Left Right Out

    This was my day today

    Caught 10 over 4lb and probably the same between 2 and 4lb…… biggest was 6

    The bows were nuts today

    how was your day

    • Isherman

      Going on the theory that the worst days fishing is better than the best days work…it sucked compared to yours:)

  • Poppa

    Am I missing something here? Some filthy criminal steals the confidential records of a law firm, illegally discloses them to a willing accomplice I.e. the media, and somehow this is given a romantic sounding title ,”the Panama papers”. I hope when the dust settles the people responsible for disclosing confidential information illegally are prosecuted.

    • XCIA

      That’s if cousin Vladimir’s people don’t have quiet word first.

      • Dave

        Ah, Russian justice, perhaps we need to convince “Vladimir’s people” the dirty politics author has his secrets as well.

        • XCIA

          I suspect cousin Vladimir has a very, very long memory but if it did slip his mind, he has many “helpers” to remind him.

      • Uncle Bully

        yes, a nice quiet chat over a cup of polonium tea…..

      • Greg M

        Agree. While I don’t wish harm on anybody I think it’s fair to say whoever did it is a gone burger. Vlad does not suffer fools one little bit.

        • XCIA

          Yes, although it would be no guarantee, I hope they scored enough coin to start a new life far, far away.

    • Wayne Hodge

      Do not hold your breath

  • rexabus

    To me these pieces the herald keep running are just about the most irritating thing on the Internet : http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11617100

  • Isherman

    A sobering reminder of just how openly Jihadist ideology was propagated in the UK during the 90’s. From the Beeb, but a worthwhile read nontheless.

  • rexabus

    Proud of our national daily when they have hard hitting serious journalism like this as. Their lead story: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11617405

  • spanishbride

    A woman observed a man in the supermarket being followed by a Green Party politician.As they passed the meat section, the politician told the man to purchase the organic free range chickens. The man told him, “No.” The Green Party politician immediately began to whine and fuss, and the man said quietly, “Now James, we just have half of the aisles left to go through – don’t be upset. It won’t be long now.”

    Soon, they came to the chocolate aisle and the politician recommended the Halal certified cadbury eggs ( the ones that have had the word Easter removed ) When told he couldn’t have any, his bottom lip began to droop. The man said, “There, there, James, don’t cry – only two more aisles to go and then we’ll be checking out.”

    When they got to the checkout, the politician immediately began to clamor for sugar free chewing gum and was in a terrible mood upon discovering there’d be no gum purchased. The man said serenely, “James, we’ll be through this check out stand in 5 minutes and then you can go home and have a nice long toke.”

    The woman followed them out to the parking lot and stopped the man to compliment him. “I couldn’t help noticing how patient you were with James,” she began.

    The man replied, “I’m James – my flatmate’s name is name is Russel.

  • Isherman

    Looks like the nasty little half sucked throatie is still at it, now going after police regarding information sought on his travel…hopefully a decent judge concludes the police were acting properly in the investigation of a crim and tells him to bugger off.

  • XCIA

    We discussed the shonky building practices some weeks ago and now its starting to come home to bite their backsides and after the council had signed it off – “Residents in a swanky $700 million Auckland housing project have been ordered to vacate their homes amid fears they are structurally unsafe.”

  • Disinfectant

    Everywhere today it is about the “Panama Papers”.
    Lets all of us get involved, form a Trust, and register it in Panama.
    Can someone in Panama respond to this comment with a cost.

    • Isherman

      The thing is, the media would not have known exactly who might be involved, and my question is how do we know that they wont be selective with those that get ‘exposed’, particularly in the event of genuinely dodgy trust arrangements. It could well be that people and entities that they consider ‘freindly’ are involved. Who has oversight on what they do with all of this?

      • Disinfectant

        Then the issue is simply this;
        Why do we have a system which can be set up to avoid any liability whatsoever, so long as that entity names a beneficiary.
        It is absolutely bizarre.

        • R&BAvenger

          More info here : http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/04/panama-papers-dont-let-the-facts-get-in-the-way-of-a-good-story/

          Specifically “In 2005 Labour’s Finance Minister, Michael Cullen, tightened up reporting requirements for the trusts but emphasised that their activities would remain tax free.

          He said: “”Foreign trusts will be required to have an IRD number, keep records for New Zealand tax purposes, provide certain information when they are first set up in New Zealand or appoint New Zealand trustees, and provide information to Inland Revenue on a regular basis.

          Under New Zealand law, foreign income derived by non-residents is outside the New Zealand tax base, and rightly so. The government has no intention of changing that. “Because they are not taxed here, foreign trusts that are set up here do not have to file New Zealand income tax returns or keep records if they receive only foreign-sourced income.“ ”
          It is legal, but if you simply put a lump sum of money in them without provinging a a stream of foreign income to them are you doing anything illegal?
          In NZ, only if you are not complying with the requirement of NZ tax law as above. In your own country or internationally if you don’t disclose it to your taxman, or others who have an interest in your financial affairs, such as a pecuniary register for politicians.