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  • Nechtan

    Born today in 1921 Shakey Jake Harris (born James D. Harris) blues singer, songwriter and harmonica player.

    Born today in 1944 John Kay (born Joachim Fritz Krauledat) lead singer with Steppenwolf.

    Today in 1969 The 5th Dimension went to number 1 on the US singles chart with “Aquarius / Let The Sunshine In”.

    Today in 1975 Elton John went to number 1 on the US chart with “Philadelphia Freedom”.

    • God I love the blues.

      If I wasn’t going out for dinner in a few I’d dust off the harp and have a crack at that.
      But I am. So the neighbors can thank their lucky stars!

      • willtin

        Your neighbours are lucky I don’t know you.

      • Huia

        One of my sons plays the harp WW.
        All his life he wanted to go to the American south for the music, finally he made it to New Orleans, all he ever wanted to do was play with a blues band down there.
        He got the opportunity and the band took him back to their apartment block as the acoustics in the stairwell were magical. It was a highlight of my sons life as he played with them all night in the stairwell, residents came out and were sitting on the stairs either singing, playing some instruments or just chilling and enjoying the magic.
        I am so pleased he had that experience. He was the only “semi-white” face in the building and loved every minute of it.

    • willtin

      I have Steppenwolf 7 on vinyl – Always enjoy a good

      Earschplittenloudenboomer

  • Carl

    I’m glad she had the windows wound up. (pic)

  • Alan Beresford B’Stard

    I seriously suggest you don’t watch this video, it is just so boring.
    A day in the life of Andrew Little.
    https://youtu.be/XBFBYWyNDEk

    • Brent

      I’m going to Watch this as it has to be better than watching 6 pm news!

      • Brent

        24 seconds and cant take it anymore!

        • Iva b ginn

          A minute 26 was enough for me. lol

          • Nermal

            0.08 and I was feeling distinctly nauseous.

      • Nige.

        Wasn’t it a shocker. Apparently it was a ‘new level of embarrassment’ for the PM…until “so will this effect the prime minister corrin?”. ” not at all”

        I would say it was a new level of embarrassment for one news.

        I hope they get a total clean out.

        • Brent

          Not watching the news anymore in fear of bursting a blood vesicle in the forehead and 24 seconds of Little’s video was to much.

    • Pluto

      I would have thought his day in the life would be set to music.
      “I read the news today oh boy,
      those damn Nats just won the war,
      my caucus colleagues turned away,
      but they never understood,
      seven percent’s quite good ….”

    • Nige.

      I was expecting a parody.

      What I got was stranger than fiction.

      • Nechtan

        It reminded me of Burt from the muppets/sesame street. You just know he has a bottle top collection he wants to show you.

        • kereru

          Priceless!!

    • Usaywot

      I loved the bit where Jacinda and at least one other point across the table and laugh. I’m assuming they are pointing at Little.

      • willtin

        His Little what?

    • goodwitheu

      The last bit- saving taxpayers money by taking public transport as opposed to taxi? That’s subsidised actually Andy. You are on not bad salary mate why don’t you drive and pay your own way..

    • willtin

      At first glance I thought Andy was showing us his crop.

    • Plants

      Worth watching through to the end. The scene in the bus of Andrew Little is quite moving.

  • Nige.

    Johcar answered last nights question with:

    “for the next project, ”

    What home projects do you have on?

    • Wasapilot

      We have a gully trap that overflows around once per month. It is an old earthenware trap, so I am getting the drain camera inspected. It runs down the side of the house, where a couple of years ago I put in a paver path, box hedging, standards, looking great now. If the drain needs to be replaced I will be putting in a Paver path, box hedging, standards AGAIN!

      • Huia

        Had no water today as the pump (tank water) had thrown a sickie. Mr Huia on the ball and fixed it so I have water for the coffee machine again.
        I want to put a path down next, and add some edging for one of the gardens.

        • Wasapilot

          I did all the work myself last time Huia. It looks really sharp now, and will be a real blow if it has to go. Lesson learnt , check the drains before doing this kind of landscaping.

          • Huia

            I will be doing it myself too Wasapilot, we have 1/2 an acre and I laid out all the gardens, have built all sorts of things and created sub tropical gardens around the place. I’m getting to the stage that I really don’t want to spend everyday gardening now, but I do enjoy it in small doses.
            Was creating a garden awhile back and the spade went straight through the pipe that connects to the water tank. Actually to be honest I’ve done that twice now. Does not make me the most popular person on the property.

          • Wasapilot

            Good on you Huia. We have changed most of our gardens to be lower maintenace as it was betting a bit much for us as it was. I have gone through two water piles too, one of ours fust inside the front fence when I was gaking out a tree stump, and went through our elderly neighbours as well when taking out a tree for her. I now have alkathene pile and the connector fittings in the garage ready for the next time I do it.

      • Nige.

        Run a new pipe within the earthenware

        • Wasapilot

          Would need to be 100mm though, do you think it would fit in a 100mm earthenware pipe Nige?

          • Nige.

            no. you would have to run something smaller and flexible to negotiate bends and obstructions and possibly a pump to compensate for the smaller diameter. Perhaps just mention the idea to the plumber/drainlayer before you’re resigned to ripping all your hard work up. Sometimes tradesmen dont care what the most convenient outcome is as long as they get paid. And remember to leave a note saying “DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT OFFERING A CASHIE”

          • Saw Nige’s reply but depending where you are you could look to see if there is an outfit that does pipe cracking in your area. If there is give them a call.

            Google pipe cracking.

          • Wasapilot

            Cool, thanks Wallace. The machinery looks big, but I will see it this is anoption.

            Thanks again.

          • willtin

            Just don’t google it the other way round

        • biscuit barrel

          Earthenware ? Not made anymore as its all plastic, gone the way of filament bulbs, phones that plug into hallway.

          • Nige.

            Correct. As well as labour leaders who poll over 30%.

      • Brent

        Are all other GT’s still working when this one blocks or does it keep backing up?

        • Wasapilot

          Yep the other gullIes are ok. It is at the head of the drain, TV just downstram of the GT, and and soil (toilet) waste connects into the drain just downstram of the TV I imagine. The toilet has never given any issues, so I am hoping the actual trap in the gully is the issue. The branch drain is ok and in pvc.

          I have some contacts who are drainlayers, so hopefully they can sort ot out, and fingers crossed I wont have to rip up the path and planting.

          • Brent

            Sounds like the Trap, 110mm GT in pvc easy job. Just make sure you have the right Beer in the Fridge as nothing worse than a Drain layer mate in you ear about the wrong Beer.

          • Wasapilot

            Hope so Brent, thanks for your advice, and yes, the beer fridge is in the garage, he can help himself when he is finished, not before ?. I will still get the drain camera done though.

    • HR

      Just got a retaining wall/planter finished and was standing with my mate who had helped me, admiring our work. My lovely wife came out of the house walking towards us. My mate asked me what she would say, would she like it? I replied she will say “it’s great, now the such and such needs done, and why don’t you guys get started now??”

      Almost word for word…..

      • Wasapilot

        SWMBO makes a list of jobs for me to do or organise. It is known as “the list”. My dentists wife has “the list” for him too. First thing I say to him when I walk in to his chamber is “how is the list going?” We normally compare notes before he begins the torture process.

        Last time I went to see him, he did not reply, and had a strange look on his face. He then introduced me to his dental assistant wife.

      • Have I told you how much I love my life?…………….

        :-)

        • dumbshit

          For a moment I wondered if the “l” in life was a “typo”!

    • ex-JAFA

      I’m part way through an in-depth study on the development of domestic dust bunnies. In my spare time, I’m cultivating clumps of the cat’s fur to evaluate how matted into carpet they can become.

      • Goldie

        You should get a hairy dog (as per avatar). It would make your research go a lot quicker!

        • Chris EM

          Yes, it is my theory that a layer of dog hair will stop the carpet wearing out and prevent dirt getting in to the pile.

    • dumbshit

      Just got a C21 Hansa Chipper, nearly copping a few nights on the sofa, due to considered opinion being that it was definitely “overkill” for what was needed. The greenery on 2acres is in for a “hair cut”!

      • I have a C7, one of the better toys I have purchased, good for my place as anything over 70mm contributes to global warming via the wood burner.

      • Dave

        That’s a serious machine! PTO or the stand alone ??

        • dumbshit

          20hp v twin Honda, just on its way back from the moon, in terms of use, but nothing some tlc, and a paint job when a certain son, comes home for a holiday, won’t fix. Been tediously feeding a “masport 6hp mulcher”, for longer than I care to remember.

    • Misfit

      my whole home, just moved in a month ago , full house renovation in motion, all on hold as septic tank is stuffed, so guess thats the next big project of many lol

      • Spiker

        Just getting quotes for a new septic system for our new house. Not much change out of $20k eeek!!

        • Misfit

          ouch!!! lucky my tank is ok but the soak lines are stuffed so im just needing new soak pipes in, roots had filled the upper pipe coming from the toilet and poo was stacking up at the back door which alerted me to the problem, people who sold me house knew of the issues and didnt tell me, they had a lump of wood on top of drain grate holding the poo down. Im at 5 grand to put in new lines so guess I cant complain.

          • Spiker

            We have a perfectly good septic system already on the old cottage (only 13 years old). Could have easily hooked the new house up to it and carried on. But the rules have changed & now it’s not adequate apparently.

      • Huia

        Might be cheaper to put in a composting toilet, the greenies seem to love them up this way.

    • XCIA

      I don’t have a home, I have a harbour bridge.

      • Nige.

        Serious? 4realz?

        • XCIA

          An analogy…….by the time you get to the end of fixing, painting and renovating, its time to start again. The place is like a black hole as far as the Queens currency is concerned.

    • LesleyNZ

      There is an old chinese proverb that says “Man finish house, man die”. (or Woman). Never be without a project! I am redoing the garden area and replanting and finishing planting and mulching a bank I started 33 years ago. There is always a project to do – it never ends.

      • Chris EM

        Wow, i’m gong to live forever.
        I’ve been building a retaining wall on my bank, started about 25 years ago, probably make it to 33.

        • Wasapilot

          You are a legend Chris ?

      • Huia

        Another old Chinese proverb says that “Man who take woman camping, have one intent”.

    • Glenn

      Halfway through making an outside chess set, great fun and a good excuse to ‘hide’ down at the beach for a few days.

      • Nige.

        Me like

      • KGB

        Very nice!

      • LovetoTeach

        I’d buy one of those, they look awesome!

    • Les couilles de chien.

      Nige, spent 12 hours in the harvester today and was forced by circumstances beyond my control to buy a pie in Seddon. Do not do as I. Unimpressed.
      I would have given my lefty for a steak and blue cheese from you know where.
      As for the coffee, my pee is warmer than the tepid drool I was served. Coffee is a hot beverage which should be served HOT!
      I’m grumpy because of lack of sleep apparently. Grape harvest does that to you.

      • Left Right Out

        Come to ChCh and I’ll hook you up with a good coffee

        • Les couilles de chien.

          love to, just need a good reason to get down there!

          • Left Right Out

            I believe my coffee is not a bad reason…..lol

          • hookerphil

            How to find?

          • Left Right Out

            I’m mobile HP I find you lol

      • Nige.

        What kind of pie? I had a scallop pie from there once and mmmmmmmmmm it was delicious!!!!!!

        • Les couilles de chien.

          you struck lucky.

      • Brent

        Should have shot the Harvester down to ward, They make the a mean minted Lamb pie.

        • Les couilles de chien.

          bloody things only do 25 kph top whack which I’m sure many folks trying to travel anywhere around blenheim/marlborough etc will attest to! Sorry!

          • Brent

            I’ve probably been stuck behind you once or twice already. Not to much problem with the Harvester’s this year so far. Stop go on Battys and Burleigh Are testing me as my yards on Battys

          • dumbshit

            Could have taken a short cut through a few paddocks, farmer brown might appreciate the odd paddock topped!

    • Eiselmann

      Have a load of gifted carpet to lay and a kitchen in need of tiling..at the moment my budget allows for one tile every fortnight so this is more a long term project

      Also have that award winning novel to start…and continuing my weight loss project, having a tight food budget is actually quite convenient in this case

    • Chris EM

      Just put in a new throne and repainted the throne room. Tomorrow I intend to put the first top coat on the out side of the window. Almost finished building a 2m by 1100 mobile bench and drawers for my workshop. I’ll be more organised and be able to make better things. Yeah, right. The bathroom refurb is just waiting on a new window to be built. A bigger one, which comes down to bath level, so I can lie there with a port and look out upon my domain.
      I also intend to vacuum the house sometime.

    • Left Right Out

      I’m still doing the yard…. almost done…. redesigned the drive last weekend am very happy with progress

      • Nige.

        Photo?

        • Left Right Out

          You voyeur Nige…LOL

          • Chris EM

            Cool looking garage. Is that a mobile workshop in the back of the van?

          • Left Right Out

            Coffee Chris……..

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      Just moved to a new abode so basically it’s unpacking boxes (which seem to breed overnight!) and finding ‘homes’ for my stuff. Have downsized and although I thought I had got rid of a lot of things it seems I still need to declutter even more!!

    • Disinfectant

      Buy a plane to both fly and tinker with.
      I’ve been as “poor as poison” since the earthquakes, but having worked my butt off for the last 5 years, I can just about buy one with the help of my bank.

    • Lux

      We have been thinking about doing up our whole house and section, but have been having so many offers from real estate people and now housing nz, we are re-thinking the whole thing.

      I think we will hold out for a private developer for the best price. Auckland is gone for me now, pants down len brown, and his shonky mates have destroyed it.

    • johcar

      My home project is to finish packing this house up.

      Sold this house about three weeks ago and bought another a week later.

      Moving next Thursday from the Shore to Orewa (or thereabouts), from a 40 year old weatherboard/decramastic, to a near-new brick and longrun terraced house (with a decent sized patio for entertaining and a bush/reserve outlook)..

      Exciting!!

      The first house I have bought for myself, since the ex is living elsewhere (yay!!!!!). Looking forward to the life of a single man!!!

      And picking up my new toy tomorrow: Triumph Tiger XCX. Ostensibly a commuting machine, but I suspect it will do multi duty…

      Will post a picture of the bike tomorrow night (if I can stand parking it!!!!)

  • Huia

    Could someone please pull the plug on Andrew Little nonsense. I am really sick of hearing him pounding the negative drum.
    The man is a fool, dosent even make sense half the time.

    • Nechtan

      1/2 the time????

      • Huia

        Sorry. Typo, 7/8ths of the time I should have said.

        • Usaywot

          Even that’s generous. You’re very kind.

        • Jono

          9/8ths of the time!

        • KGB

          King explained to the speaker today that she was a woman therefore couldn’t “man up” as suggested.
          Little was laughing !!! I’ve never see him laugh before.

          • dumbshit

            The streaker wasn’t waiting around for confirmation!

          • Huia

            That streaker wasn’t waiting around for anything.
            It may have been a careful plot so cunning you could have put a tail on it and called it a weasel. And all to get a cushy job at the UN under the She Beasts tender care.

          • phronesis

            Isn’t that offensive to the transgendered?

  • Sally

    Corin Dann has gone full retard.
    Nothing wrong with Key’s Trust but according to Dann it all about perception.

    What about the other 75 MPs with Trust – are they all squeaky clean? Of course they are, it is only Key’s that is given the 3rd degree.

    • Jude

      Apparently the timing will hurt Key! The MSM are showing how to create a story out of thin air, all they are doing is making themselves look ignorant and incompetent to boot!
      Another Whale oiler linked to comments on a MSM site that showed this debacle is fooling few.

    • Usaywot

      What an idiot Dann is. What does he mean “its all about perception”. So if I haven’t committed a murder but some moron perceives that I have then I am guilty. I’m at a loss as to where these idiots are coming from.

      • Wasapilot

        In some respects he is correct, it is all about perception, just ask angry Mr 7% little. Perception is everything aye andy.

      • Gaynor

        We have bets every night as to what colour tie Corrin will wear….If he has his blue tie on he thinks he has something on National (like tonight) and how many anti government reports tv1 can get in before the first ad break.

        • Ruahine

          I really only watch the ‘news’ for the weather. It is more factual.

          • biscuit barrel

            Trouble is the weather is even less credible than news.

    • LesleyNZ

      I noticed he found it very difficult announcing the latest poll results the other night.

    • JEL51

      MSM poll asked whether JK should allow trusts to be open to public, earlier.
      52 % said none of our business……………….media crap party loosing touch with its audience again.

      • Left Right Out

        again?? I thought that ship sailed some time ago

    • Second time around

      Perhaps it’s unfair to comment, but the assets register shows that Andy doesn’t even seem to have a bank account to his name and gets almost no gifts from anyone. For a person who has had a good salary for many years and is now in his early 50 s, he really has little to show for himself. Andy is certainly clean, but do we want him making investment decisions for the country?

      • Sally

        Simple answer, No.
        His so called tax return he released is a simple statement of income from EMPU and as a politician and PAYE. No mention of interest earned on any savings.

        • dumbshit

          Obviously has none, a good socialist specialises in spending other people’s money!

          • Huia

            Either that or he has it hidden in a trust account.

          • Sally

            Maybe it is time for him to talk to an investment banker and start saving for his retirement.

          • biscuit barrel

            he has two super funds, so thats covered

          • Second time around

            They are probably donkey deep in Aussie bank shares and shares in NZ power companies, the same as mine

          • Mick Ie

            It reminds me of the saying: What’s yours is mine and what’s mine is my own’.

      • willtin

        Perhaps we should start a GiveALittle page?

        • johcar

          Or a GiveAwayALittle page?

        • Second time around

          No, let’s vote him PM so all this nastiness will go away and he will have only Judith Collins as Leader of the Opposition to worry about.

    • Ruahine

      The TVNZ political ‘reporters’ have they no personal integrity at all? What a way to ‘earn’ a living.

  • Vlad

    I’ve followed the coverage of this, such as it has been, but here’s a good outcome for this.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11621085It

    It was another fever of excitement about a chance to attack National.

    • Jp

      Page Link broken. what was the article?

  • Union Jack

    Got a very good insight today into why some kids will always have no chance due to the hopeless cases which produce them.
    Was walking past a car which stopped outside a house this morning which had a feral looking guy driving and two small kids in the back,one in a car seat(he actually did one thing right).
    Anyway the feral guy driving got out of the car smoking a cigarette and carrying a box of Tui and had no spare hands so shouted at the young kid who I reckon was only about 5 years old to get the toddler out of the car seat.
    Of course the little kid tried but the toddler was too heavy so he dropped him heavily on the pavement whereby the father hurled a stream of obscenities at the kid and kicked him.
    The kid then ran inside crying followed by the feral who left the toddler lying on the footpath until he had put his beer inside and yelled some more abuse at the kid.
    Pass all the laws you like but savages like these who seem devoid of all human feeling and sense are beyond the reach of government.

    • kereru

      How appalling. We expect people to have a licence to keep a dog. Makes you wonder if people should be licensed to have children.

    • willtin

      What did you say to him?

      • Union Jack

        Sorry call me a coward if you like but I don’t intervene in peoples domestic crap especially when he was alot bigger and darker than myself.
        I am 100% sure this was a normal occurrence in this household so even if I say something it is water off a ducks back to them anyway.

        • willtin

          I have my size for defence, so maybe I can afford more forwardness, BUT, I’m sure if you had offered to help the arsehole with his (?) child, he’s not going to punch your lights out.

          • Union Jack

            Maybe but he really did not strike me as someone who would respond to any kind of common sense or caring as a normal person would as his beer was the main priority I suspect.
            Maybe different time or place and I will react differently,not sure.

    • pisces8284 .

      My daughter teaches at a school in Flaxmere. I hear ya. Some people just shouldn’t be allowed to breed

    • XCIA

      And we have empowered Muppet’s like Devoy just waiting to ensure HIS human rights are not violated. It is all back to front.

    • Usaywot

      Obviously not a white, middle class rich prick then.

    • Left Right Out

      It’s all JK’s fault

      On a serious note…. it is heart breaking to see young kids like this

    • Eiselmann

      Sounds familar …grew up with lowlifes like that, they all went on to achieve nothing and the kids around them replicated the worst of the adults, with one notable exception.

      • KatB

        So from your experience, what, if anything can us bystanders do that may be of some little help? I saw a man, (using that word loosely), and a woman leaving the supermarket one day. He was really going off at her all the way out of supermarket to the car. Everybody was looking. I really wanted to say or do something but I felt that may just put her in more danger when she got home. I felt really helpless and guilty for not doing something.

        • willtin

          Your own safety should always come first in a dangerous situation; it’s up to you to consider how dangerous a situation might be. You should err on the side of caution. But otherwise, you might at least give a voice to say STOP and that might be all it takes.

          • Huia

            Years ago my sons and I witnessed a woman on the wrong end of some mongrel mob fists.
            She finally got away from the abuser and cleared a 6ft high fence then tried to lock herself in a car, he had the door open still punching her and swearing.
            My sons took off to help her, one was 14yrs old and the other 17yrs, I tried to stop them as they were still kids in my eyes but they were hell bent on helping this woman.
            Their good intentions were pipped at the post as right on cue around the corner came the Forestry bus taking the workers home. Bus slammed on its brakes and the Forestry guys poured out then gave the mongrel mob joker a lesson he wouldn’t be forgetting in a hurry, they took the woman with them on the bus so I am guessing there may have been some rellies on the bus for her.
            I am still glad the boys didn’t have to get involved as there would have been repercussions for them.

          • willtin

            Pride is NOT a sin.

        • Eiselmann

          That is actually a really tough one…you intervene and you MIGHT get him to stop, pause and realise he’s being abusive… or she might turn on you along with the man…or as you say ,she might find herself on the receiving end at home.

          My natural inclination , like you ,is to say something but I’ve seen more than my share of women after they have gotten ‘the bash’ so if this guy was a hitter then any intervention on your part would likely cause them to hit again

          If it was me , in this day and age…I’d record it , follow them to their car , record the plate number and contact the police with your concerns…then again if he hit her in front of me ….then the police would be called and maybe an ambulance.

          • KatB

            Thanks. Recording the number plate and reporting it would’ve been a good idea. It’s a tricky situation alright.

          • Dave

            Another option nowadays, is to video the proceedings. Even a grainy video with th offenders a spec on the screen is enough to show their actions.

        • Nothing. You can do nothing at that point in time.
          I’m not a huge guy (well…errr…too many pies) but I’m big enough and I’ve done a lot of hotel security in my day so its fair to say I can kind of look after myself (or could)

          However I’ve also seen these kinds of scum in action and I can assure you that you are seriously putting yourself in harms way to get involved. Some of these scum…the male AND the female can turn like a wounded snake and attack when they feel threatened.

          If you truly want to do something get the rego or address and call the cops. Its a myth that they don’t care and won’t respond. They do and will.

          Bu t don’t butt in. Its not worth your life.

          • MaryLou

            I get what you’re saying, I truly do. But is it worth the child’s life? ‘Cause that’s what it really is. Even if he’s not killing it on the spot, a violent adult in public is a more violent adult behind closed doors. And even if he doesn’t actually kill the child at all, he sure as hell is destroying the kids life.

    • Bud

      Well to be fair, there is very good chance that he isn’t actually the father…

    • Lux

      I would have called the police..

      • Lux

        Beating a child, danger, drugs .. weapons ..

        Call the 111 ..the police

  • Isherman

    The Kermadec Ocean Sanctuary. After having supported it, Labour along with the Maori Party are now threatening to pull their support….and this is why you could never trust Labour. Like the TPPA, or the RMA, or the UBI you’re never sure exactly what the position is, and once they do finally decide what it is and put their name to it, they change their mind when some simpleton tries to manufacture some long bow argument against it. Not fit for opposition, let alone government.

    • Carl

      I find the Greens silence on this very interesting.

      • XCIA

        Yes, what happened to the “save the whales” mob, or don’t they do fish?

        • They don’t DO anything…except protest about being poor and neglected.

          • XCIA

            They do too! They drive around in diesel bangers polluting the earth.

          • When they aren’t flying to climate change conferences of course.

          • Bud

            They solicit funds, does that count?

        • kereru

          But that’s SO yesterday! Obviously you haven’t ‘moved on’.

          • willtin

            Aren’t there too many whales nowadays? ;-)

          • phronesis

            Save the Krill!

          • willtin

            Diatoms Rule!

          • KatB

            I can see a few of us will be practicing our new found skills tonight

        • Ruahine

          May be there are no whales in the Kermadecs. John Key get on the phone to the Japanese whalers. It would do the ‘Greens’ heads in such is their hypocrisy.

          • XCIA

            If the boot was on the other foot and the Gweens et al wanted to save the Kermadec’s you can be sure they would have found the rarest species of something in the universe swimming around there which would have the world beating a path to our door to save it.

      • Isherman

        It’s hard to see how they could support fishing rights there, that would mean they have sense of pragmatism, and I’m not ready to believe that based on what I have seen from them. But aside from the actual merits of the arguments for and against, its the way Labour in particular navigate their positions on things, and when I say navigate I mean crashing face first into the rocks at full noise.

      • Disinfectant

        Email Mr Shaw and ask him for their position.

        • OneTrack

          He hasn’t asked Meteria what their position is yet.

          • Disinfectant

            Co-leaders, what the hell has the world come to.

        • biscuit barrel

          The Green Party is very pleased to be supporting the Kermadec Ocean Sanctuary Bill, establishing a new marine reserve in New Zealand’s exclusive economic zone around the Kermadec Islands. We have had a member’s bill in the ballot, prepared by Gareth Hughes, for some time, to establish a marine protected area at the Kermadecs.

          Does that answer your question

          • Aucky

            It would make for a fascinating situation if the member’s bill is drawn in the ballot and National lend their support.

          • biscuit barrel

            It seems they have reversed themselves, maori must have a veto over conservation, so that fixes that problem.
            They cant wait to get back to telling everyone else to run their lives, except maori of course. Class listen up..

          • rangitoto

            So their green is a exceedingly thin coating. Maybe one coat of watered down paint.

      • biscuit barrel

        Silence ?
        “The Green Party is very pleased to be supporting the Kermadec Ocean Sanctuary Bill, establishing a new marine reserve in New Zealand’s exclusive economic zone around the Kermadec Islands. We have had a member’s bill in the ballot, prepared by Gareth Hughes, for some time, to establish a marine protected area at the Kermadecs.”

        The idea was stolen from their policy. So its full steam…., correction pedal power ahead

        • Nige.

          The silence from the msm is there. Far be it for them to tell people that the Greens are willingly working along side national with something.

          (Good save nige.)

          • biscuit barrel

            Thats was last week.
            This week they are repudiating their own idea… thats gotta hurt in the you know what.

            Its too delicious, who knew saving the whales/fishes was going to be so much fun

    • Thanks MMP!

      Oh wait….now who had a chance to reform it and decided not too? Ummmmmm…….

    • Left Right Out

      I for one won’t be disappointed in Labour pull their support…. it will continue their downward spiral in the polls as it will alienate the Red green…. and the greens will not be happy bedfellows at all.

      I’m not surprised the greens are quiet on it….. there is no way they want to openly support the Nats they will vote in parliament and thats it

    • Eiselmann

      You know I’m looking forward to the Greens response, will they stand up for the enviroment or for the Maori elite…when two sensitivity training courses collide

      • Nige.

        Environment. Yeah right. Since when have they had any policy on the environment.

        • Eiselmann

          Well its more soundbites and slogans but appearences must be maintained to keep the actual Green vote, else an MP or three lose their meal ticket and have to get an actual job if consultancy work isn’t on offer.

        • Bud

          Green is the new red…

    • Aucky

      I knew that was going to happen. Can’t you just hear the same weary old Labour rhetoric now that James Cameron, John Kerry and Laura Bush are known to have supported the Kermadec marine park proposal. ‘John Key’s wealthy Hollywood mates’, ‘US interference in NZ domestic affairs’, ‘John Key sells Maori out to the US’. Read all about it in the comments section in the Herald. Not forgetting of course the mandatory Emmerson cartoon.

    • localnews

      In an area where no one appears to fish, what exactly is involved in setting up an ocean sanctuary?

      • Tough part is putting the fence up.

        • localnews

          Maybe some flyers, no good if the fish don’t know about it. Is Nick working on that?

    • Greg M

      While I am in full support of setting up the sanctuary, against the flow I reckon Maori should have been in the loop on this one. The discussions would have been interesting.

      • Simo

        Maori didn’t know the Kermadecs existed until about 1920….so how the hell….. jeeez I wont bother with this its just too torturous to wrestle with institutionalised racism, greed, entitlement, its ours anyway mob, racial preference over excellence, I’m done!

  • willtin

    Is it that Dunne has to be the apparent Minister in charge of ensuring we don’t advance as a nation; with our continuing legislation related to personal use of cannabis products; because of all his expertise on, and his allowance of, the poisoning of a generation by synthetic chemical highs?
    Aside from the fact that his son acted as a lawyer on behalf of the manufacturers of the toxic synthetic highs, what is it that stops Dunne from fast tracking the enablement of personal marijuana use in New Zealand; starting with the terminally ill?
    Surely there is a clue in his sartorial sense. The Man Who Lives in The Past cannot appreciate the future.

    • Nige.

      I just can’t put into words how I feel about Dunne. I’m flabbergasted at him.

      • Les couilles de chien.

        never has my flabber been so gasted.

      • STAG

        Drained, he just Drains the life force out of you, his silly bow ties, his Superior attitude while always maintaining a fantastically uninformed positions on things.

        His draining effect on my taxes, his total willingness to sell his sole for power and the believe that Clark, Key even Peters have any real respect for him.

        He is politically wanton.

    • biscuit barrel

      Not.while.I.still.draw.breath.

    • Lux

      Why does he have control over everything?

      Surely to god in these days, there should be a panel overseeing everything, not one mad bat, with no real perception of the real people who really need immediate help.

      What about looking towards the future? I better not say any more, the man is too out of touch, or has been bought.

      He needs his wings clipped immediately and thrown out, for being totally stupid, and unfairly mean.

      • Nige.

        I guess that sums up the whole confidence and supply deal eh?

  • Vutekno

    Staying with my Mother for a few days, 90 years old on the 26th of April. I organise meals for her thru Eat, excellent meals she loves them. Checking out the freezer I came across a Watties frozen meal, chicken and bacon pie. Well I decided to try it. Big Mistake!

    Described as ” Tender chicken and bacon with peas, corn and carrot in a smooth white sauce topped with creamy mashed potatoes and a crispy crumb” sounds good right!

    What a dismal failure! No peas, no carrot, no corn, no bacon. Just some rectangular lumps that may have been chicken covered with a mushy sauce that I assume was the sauce and potato. Crispy crumb not.

    Not at all surprised really but I really think Watties should up their game or get out of this market.

    Oops, need to down some Mylanta now.

    Confirms that I need to stick to good quality food thru “Eat” at her age she deserves better than the Watties option.

    • Misfit

      i order from eat every week, have done for a few years now, decent meals, good price, im a bachelor and hate cooking, makes life so much easier for me, i recommend them also.

    • Nige.

      I get Tally’s frozens now. They’re the only all new Zealand produced frozen vegies now i think.

      • Lux

        They also have Halal certification.

        Put in “Any” City, and “Any” business at the top.

        http://www.fianz.co.nz/halal-directory

        • Nige.

          Well thanks a bloody lot.

          • Huia

            Being a Chef she obviously knows what she is talking about when it comes to food Nige.

          • Lux

            jeez talk about shoot the messenger..

          • hookerphil

            Long time since I’ve seen peas burnt.

          • Lux

            Why are my shonky cooking skills being bought up? I have never, ever cooked peas and never intend to, they should be eaten raw out of the pod.

          • Lux

            Hey I didn’t certify them !!

          • Chris EM

            Don’t be angry with Lux, she may have saved your life.

          • Lux

            Now I know what John Key feels like !!!

        • McGrath

          I had a look, and I see that Waiwera Water is halal certified! How is that even possible!!! Do they point the water towards Mecca, ritually slaughter it, then put it in a bottle?

          • Lux

            It’s insane .. I will never understand it.

          • Dan

            You dont have to understand, just submit and they will be appeased

          • Disinfectant

            Because they just say so, and that is sufficient.

          • XCIA

            Perhaps it is purified with camel urine ;-)

          • Lux

            Hilarious !!!!!!!!!!!

            I’m just about peeing myself here :-)

          • XCIA

            Well there, what about this then………”Saudi authorities have closed down a shop selling traditional camel urine drinks after discovering the owner had been filling the bottles with his own bodily waste. Health inspectors swooped on a vendor in the port city of Al Qunfudhah, in south-western Saudi Arabia, and confiscated more than 70 full bottles.
            http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261222/muslims-outraged-after-camel-urine-drink-seller-daniel-greenfield

          • Dave

            Yes, but was it Halal certified ???

          • dumbshit

            Thankfully you didn’t suggest “Billy goat pee”!

      • Aucky

        Homebrand NZ grown frozen peas. Permanent Countdown price $2.29 a kg. Haven’t sussed out the other Homebrand frozen veggies yet.

        Havent seen frozen peas at $2.29 for a very long time.

    • Aucky

      Leighton keeps raving about them. Mind you, they probably keep his freezer topped up on contra.

    • Lux

      If you have a Farro supermarket close to you they have some really lovely ready made meals, like fish pie, chicken curry, salmon pie .. lots of stuff. I can vouch for most of them.

      http://www.farrofresh.co.nz/

      • Vutekno

        Thanks for that Lux, I live in Wellington so can’t do it! Will visit when I next get to Brown’s super city.

      • Aucky

        The fish pies are great.

        • Lux

          I agree .. and always add some extra cheese..

      • XCIA

        I can vouch for the Paneton leek and bacon frozen quiche’s. Two single servings to a box. I always have them on hand for emergency snacking.

        • Lux

          I had the salmon one the other day .. very yummy ..

        • Lux

          Try the fresh salmon and fish pies.. delicious..

      • STAG

        Cook Lux, its the simple things in life.

    • Comes a time

      Had one of those in the last week. those rectangular lumps that were apparently chicken, annoyed the bollocks out of me, sauce with cubes is a better description

  • Disinfectant

    Today I walked along Colombo Street in Christchurch and outside Ballantynes was a beggar who I estimated would be about 50 years old.
    His pathetic little sign claimed he was homeless and hungry. Having had enough of this begging crap, I said to him that he could get a job and wouldn’t need to beg on a cold day. Initially, he ignored me, but I wasn’t going to give up. Eventually he found his tongue and started arguing very defensively. He then said to me, “why don’t you get job”. I said that I already had one, and if I could get one then he could.
    My position from now on is that I will argue with every beggar I come across to make sure that there position becomes very uncomfortable.
    I am absolutely convinced that if everyone else did the same, the problem would disappear.
    As Chamberlain found out, appeasement does not win.

    • Superman

      Problem is if you talk to them and give them nothing you usually get abused.

      • Nige.

        That and you can end up with a criminal record if things get heated and circumstances don’t go in your favour.

        • It’s also genuinely dangerous as some of them are mentally ill and/or on alcohol or drugs and as such their reactions can be quite irrational.

    • willtin

      Don’t bother travelling overseas.

      • Disinfectant

        The record to date; Australia, India, UAE, Thailand, Hong kong, Indonesia, New Caledonia, Russia, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Holland, Ireland, U.K.., Fiji, Singapore, France, Italy, Malaysia, Belgium, United States, Kuwait, Tahiti and the North Island.
        And a few others which I can’t remember.

        • willtin

          No South Island?

      • Ross

        A big difference is you can die of poverty in other countries. I firmly believe no should die of real poverty (e.g. hunger) in NZ.

    • Vutekno

      You could spend your life doing this and achieve nothing IMO. I would be surprised if any of these beggars were genuine, just lazy bludgers. Should apply to be a list mp with the greens!

    • oldmanNZ

      wonder if I could photocopy a $5 note (with “specimen” across it) and on the back of it write,”go do something ore usefull, you might get more of these”.

      screw it up a bit and chuck it in there hat, then walk away.

    • Comes a time

      The ones on Stanmore road amuse me, sitting outside a super value, usually smoke in hand, makes me think will i just be paying for the next pack?

    • Time For Accountability

      I am led to believe that some scroungers make quite a good living over and above the dole.

      Who knows – some might even make enough to live is a castle.
      Castles go cheap down south.

    • Simo

      I did the same to two well dressed youfs outside Countdown a few years ago..something along the lines of if I can get a job ( have polio in right leg which was dragging along the ground) you can to. Just makes me blood boil to see abled bodied teenagers thinking begging is an option.

  • Left Right Out

    I’m making the claim now…….. I will have a better interest rate than Angry’s approval rate at the next poll

    • Skydog

      Are you referring to a term deposit interest rate? At about 2.5% for a term deposit, I think you stand a good chance.

    • Wasapilot

      Can angry be the first labour leader to poll at the margin of error? Quite possibly the way he is carrying on.

      • Platinum Fox

        Difficult. If you read the blurb on CB’s website it explains that the sampling error varies depending on the result:

        “The maximum sampling error is approximately ±3.1%-points at the 95% confidence level. This is the sampling error for a result around 50%. Results higher and lower than 50% have a smaller sampling error. For example, results around 10% and 5% have sampling errors of approximately ±1.9%-points and ±1.4%-points, respectively, at the 95% confidence level.
        These sampling errors assume a simple random sample of 1,000 eligible voters.”
        The bad news for Angry Andy is that the range for his popularity is not 3.9%-10.1%, it’s closer to 5.3%-8.7% so there is better than a 97.5% confidence level that his popularity is below 9%.

    • Huia

      The rabbit we have on our lawn will have a better polling rate than Little Angry’s when Colmar Brunton does the next one.

  • Aucky

    There has been a very muted response from Labour to Ann Tolley’s excellent plans to totally redefine child care in NZ. Ardern would have been on the warpath now were it not for the UN heaping praise on Tolley via UNESCO. Maybe Jacinda doesn’t want to prejudice her future job prospects in New York.

  • Huia

    Meanwhile in Canada in a for sale advert.
    (Love a good giggle.)

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  • Lux

    Does anyone here have bad dreams or nightmares?

    Bad dreams are when you dream about bad stuff, but wake up and cannot remember what happened.

    Nightmares are when, you remember everything .. or just about, and think you are in real life, but actually in a dream.. But remember most of what has happened.

    and then there is paralytic dreams ..Imagine waking up to find you can’t move a muscle.

    • Very very VERY rarely these days.

      Although I did dream I had damaged my phone last night, and when I sat at my desk and saw my phone was OK, I was quite glad for a second :D

      • Lux

        Spooky stuff ..

        I have them every so often, there is no rhyme or reason to them .. I’m very lucky and get woken up very quickly.

        I can have one a year or maybe 5 in a month..

        I try to sleep during the day when I’m having a few, I have never had one during the day.

      • johcar

        “quite glad for a second” – are you looking for an excuse to upgrade?

        • No. Not at all. I suspect this phone will be with me for a long time. There really isn’t much point in upgrading it as the incremental difference of the latest phones are so minor. In the beginning when you went from 1 to 2 or 2 to 3, these were major leaps. Upgrading from 4 to 5 to 6 and even 7 have been little steps.

          • johcar

            I usually keep mine for two years, because by then there’s (usually) enough technological advances to make it worthwhile. Plus, by then, the battery is usually getting a bit tired…

    • Time For Accountability

      Many folk on heart medication do.

      Tip – take the beta blockers in the morning and there will be a vast improvement

      • Lux

        I’m on no drugs at all ..

        • Dave

          I was until the weekend, even avoiding painkillers if I had a headache, but now on blood pressure pills. It’s all Labours fault, if they would shut down and take their union mates with them, I’m sure the blood pressure would come right.

    • Gaynor

      My husband has very vocal nightmares,he has been known to wake everyone in the house. Not the sort of excitement I want in bed really.

      • Lux

        I’m the same, my family wake me up immediately, and it has no pattern. I think I know why it started happening, I’m trying to work out how to stop it.
        I’m fine with it because it is random.. it is just scary for myself and others when it happens.. or they turn over and think shutup lux..

        But being trapped in horrible is terrible, wake your partner up, is what I say, and tell them it’s a dream.. it only takes second.

    • Nige.

      I often have realizations in my dreams that I am in fact dreaming and that I need to wake up.

      • Lux

        I can lie down in the afternoon, after no sleep, and go into about 3 dreams all happening immediately.. and be aware of what is happening in my home.

      • Old Kiwi

        I have that ability too Nige but there is a downside. I was having a dream about my Dad (we were great buddies and miss him a lot). We were having a good old chin wag and I woke myself up. Chastised myself for quite a while I did.

        • Nige.

          Those dreams are the best. They envoke so many emotions. I miss my Nana so much.

    • Misfit

      Im a black belt in martial arts when I sleep apparently, have broken a toe once before karate kicking the wall. The odd ex girlfriend has copped the odd kick in the leg as well lol

    • XCIA

      It keeps you on your toes when your demons come for you in the night. Play along with them and they will soon get bored and leave you alone……

      • Lux

        I agree…

        I’m finding the more open I am about them, the less I have ..

  • Ross

    Can someone try and explain just how stuff.co.nz think it’s ok to publish comments like this:

    “Key is a slimey corrupt piece of shyte supported by the walking dead national party zombies and his brainwashed nat MP,s,can we hang him from one of the trees in Parliament grounds? hopefully !”

    So this bloke is more than happy to support and encourage the lynching of our PM? It’s truly outrageous. If that was put on a website in the USA, I wouldn’t be surprised if he got a knock on the door from the Secret Service.

    Btw I hope I haven’t breached the rules of WO by copying and pasting a comment from arguably the most read news site in the country.

    • Lux

      I think you need to do a cut and paste ..

      OOPs screenshot the page and comments.. anyone can say that.

    • R&BAvenger

      You should take a screenshot and put a complaint in to Stuff. If they don’t deal with it properly it can be escalated, as anti-WOBH ‘readers’ have tried to do (unsuccessfully, thanks to the gold standard moderating), to this site.

  • Mikev

    Whaleoil’s new security process where you have to tick a “I am not a Robot” box for access is not preparing us for a future under Labour. We will all have to release our tax returns to prove we only earn the ULA & prove that we have not been responsible enough through investment to provide for our own families. In other words we will be equal in our misery with the same as everyone else – nothing. I wonder if this has been tried anywhere else with success?

  • BroNoLike

    Now Andies trying to do a Winston in parliment. Desperate times, desperate measures.

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