Whaleoil General Debate

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  • LabTested

    I’m tired from traveling for the last few days. – Why do trains have names? I understand it for a ferry because they are all different, but I have just spent many hours on intercity trains, all the same, but they had individual names like boats!

    ..anyway I digress. I have been hard at work & the photo below is the view from my office today (I use the words work & office in their loosest possible connotations).

    However there is a story here. Every hour on the hour a trumpet player appears in the left hand tower. He plays for around a minute then abruptly cuts short in mid note.

    In days gone by the city watchman had a trumpet, he used it to warn citizens of fires or invading hordes etc. Legend has it that in 1241 he was sounding a warning when an arrow from a Mongol archer hit him in the throat – hence the abrupt end to the trumpet call.

    Since 1920 the national radio station has broadcast the noon trumpet call live.

    I am informed that they use a real live Trumpet player. The city employs 2 who work in shifts. So a one minute trumpet call works out to be about 12 minutes work per person a day. (pics)

    • Korau

      Who do the Polish make fun of when they want to tell a “Polish” joke?

      I only ask because your photos are of the St Mary’s Basilica In Krakow, Poland.

      • Prediction: one of the countries they share a border with.

        • Korau

          But the Poles have special help with jokes, like this.

          Q: What is long and hard that a Polish bride gets on her wedding night?

          A: A new last name.

        • Abjv

          Lapland. There were these two Laplanders, Paddy and Mick…

      • LabTested

        .and we have a winner! That didn’t take long :)

        Krakow a truly beautiful city. Completely unharmed from WW2 (pics). Location Of Schindler’s factory. Home from the Pope 2x ago. Auschwitz is just down the road & Wieliczka salt mine is a must see

        • Korau

          I claim no special knowledge, just Google reverse image search used intelligently.

          Looks like they need to bulldoze some of those outdated buildings in put in carparks so peolple could visit where there used to be old buildings.

  • Kiwiracer

    The Roy Morgan poll is interesting, I think people are taking this line, national are pissing me off but I couldn’t vote labour(or vice versa), so I’ll say Winston. . . . .when pushed.

    • johnandali

      Winston. Winston. I attended a meeting that he held in our area the other day. All he could do was to criticise. And he criticised everything. But did he suggest any alternatives to any of the matters that he criticised? Nah. Not even one. He’s not a statesman. He’s a fraud.

  • KGB

    Dont you just love how the Greens think ?

    Kevin Hague has interests in 5 properties, but “none were bought for investment.”
    The 2 rentals are his retirement scheme.

    Now I have no problem with anybody owning 5 properties, in fact well done Kev. But i wonder how he labels his house collection if they’re not investments?

    If it quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it’s a duck Kev.

    • Justme

      It’s a hobby.

      • KGB

        Haha. He had 3 rental hobbies, but he sold one:)

        • Any capital gain he made he gave straight back to the government because it would be immoral not to.

          • KGB

            I’m wonder if he bought some carbon credits?

    • sheppy

      I thought he’d been strangely quiet on the property tax scene for someone who apparently used to work for a financial services organisation. Wonder how he’s getting on with learning to drive, perhaps the parliamentary paid for taxis make it unnecessary ….

    • rantykiwi

      I hope he’s got them all fitted out with solar water heating, wind generators, maximum insulation, composting toilets and all the other follies his party piushes. Otherwise he’s nothing but a stinking hypocrite, and that just wouldn’t be like a Green MP.

      • InnerCityDweller

        Don’t forget ventilation

        • XCIA

          You would need beacoup ventilation with self composting toilets.

      • JustanObserver

        I am sure he conducts an annual WOF for his rental’s suitability to house tenants.
        They will be warm and mold-free, with automatic fragrance dispensers in each toilet . . .
        I bet he does not have any beneficiaries in his rental house investments.

    • Mick Ie

      If his rentals have been purchased for his retirement scheme, but he is not investing in his future, what else does he call it?

  • Some may think this is unnecessary, but I notice things. And this is just weird. I mean, I’m a “wanna be” lots of things, but I suspect the point is to get credit for it by mentioning it. The marina photo wasn’t picked to be nasty, it’s what she used to announce her mayoral campaign.

    • rantykiwi

      Why is the Auckland mayoral race so broken? We’re going toi be lumbered with the dribbling Labour loon Goff simply because there is no credible alternative. Is it too late for the other candidates to get their act together, select one to run, and put all their efforts behind him?

      • johnandali

        It’s about time that the National Party got together and created a committee to encourage assist outstanding members to stand for councils and mayoralties. The fact that we get all these incompetent and stupid Labor mayors and councillors around the country is proof that the Nat leadership have their heads firmly in the sand.

    • XCIA

      Unfortunate as it may be, her surname and choice of black make me think of MacBeth every time she is brought to notice.

      • kereru

        Hubble bubble, toil and trouble, cauldron boil and cauldron bubble?

        • XCIA

          I was always cast as one of the three in primary school because the teacher claimed I was the closest thing to the devil she knew ;-)

          • kereru

            How mean! Surely she was joking?? My mother used to tell me that when people tease you it means they like you….needless to say I wasn’t convinced.

  • rantykiwi

    The Herald are having a bash at the police and firearms laws because a patched gang member with a legitimate firearms licence was able to buy firearms. And they’re doing this 3 months AFTER the police revoked his licence – shouldn’t they be applauding the fact the system works?

    As an aside, can anyone here clarify for me what the “military grade assault weapons” referenced in the article would be?


    • Uncle Bully

      you mean, as opposed to garden-variety or DIY assault weapons?

      • rantykiwi

        My first thought when I read that description was my angry ex-British special forces mate. Describes him quite nicely.

    • Mark

      Ones like I have? :)

  • Blockhead

    Last night I was at a dinner put on by a charity I work with. At our table was a lovely Irish chap, from the HO in Hong Kong.
    Part way through the conversation something came up about the appearance of dolphins in the Irish Sea. He was angling that it must be caused by climate change warming the ocean. When I suggested that perhaps it was because in earlier decades when the seas around Ireland were being fished out, the dolphins had nothing much to eat, so went somewhere else. Now that fish stocks are rebuilding, there is food so the dolphins are going where the food is.
    No “but, but but….what about.” Just the cogs turning trying to accept a simple explanation for something that others blame on the nebulous AGW.

    This phrase is a neat explanation of belief in AGW:
    ‘a triumph of hope over empirical evidence’

  • LabTested

    Should Horses be forced to wear High Heals? – Your roving reporter (me) has discovered that regardless of gender identity European horses are being forced to wear high heals.

    2 pics below expose this shocking practice, I tried to get in for a close up but nearly got kicked in the face….(more to follow next week about some unrelated topic)

    • JEL51

      Wo, there must be some reason for that. What do you think it is LT?

      • Nige.

        Probably to quieten them down

    • oldmanNZ

      if you look closely, the back hoof is worn down, the rubber tires on th back more or less correct the hoof.

      • LabTested

        There were about 20 tourist carriages. each with 2 horses. All had this set up. So about 40 horses in high heels.

        Nige says it is to quieten them down, but I have never seen that in any other city where tourist carriages are very common.

        Something is going on !!

      • JEL51

        I was thinking too that maybe steep grades on cobble stones would be straining the fetlocks. They look to be permanent.

  • sarahmw

    I see it hasn’t taken long for the media to start dissing one of the 60mins rescue/abduction team. Finding ex partners to tell what type of person he was is. Well someone’s got to be the scapegoat for this sad pathetic excursion. God forbid it would be arrogant self important reporters.

  • pisces8284 .

    This is doing the rounds on social media in the UK. Exiting the EU has now become confused with anti trade, and the northern hemisphere version of the TPPA – TTIP (Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership) is coming under attack.

    This lady sums things up very well…

    I, probably like most of my generation, knew very little about the EU. I had done a Masters degree in the 70s; brought up my family, and by the early 2000s was ready to return to University. I was privileged to return to University to complete a Second Masters Degree; this time in European Policy, European Law and European Economic Analysis. Words cannot describe the horror I felt as I delved into the truth of the EU. Sends shivers down my spine to this day, remembering the horror of the realisation, that we had been hoodwinked into the EU by deceitful, disingenuous, intentionally devious means. The populace of the UK was never intended to find out the truth behind the EU, until they reckoned it was too late. Truth is it almost….almost…almost is too late. We already are, in the UK, all but a federal state in the United States of Europe. You never quite realised that, did you? Why? Because they very deliberately decided not to tell you! They deliberately created a political elite who knew full well that power was being ceded, systematically, Treaty by Treaty, to the EU. But who knew? They did! But were we the UK populace ever informed? Absolutely not! Why? They made mega millions from EU scammery & we the minions were shafted day, daily, monthly, yearly & forever. Where did your pensions go? Where did your schools, your NHS, your housing, your social services go? Well, £55 million per day, every day, every week, every month, every year….. Guess what? That is why UK is bankrupted for generations to come, with a £1.5 trillion pound debt. I wish I could enlighten the populace of the UK to the real truth about the EU. I spent a year studying the EU in depth, visiting both the EU Parliament and EU Commission in Brussels. Every word I heard in lectures, hundreds of hours of lectures, every word I researched for my thesis and every thing I saw in Brussels, lead me to the inescapable conclusion that the EU is an utterly corrupt, profligate, political monstrosity which has destroyed British jobs and bankrupted the UK for generations to come. The EU operates on lobbying, which is the technical term for bribery and corruption. Whatever Cameron says, EU law has supremacy over our UK law unless there is Treaty change. He may say so but the truth is that 27 other countries will never agree, this side of eternity, to change the Treaties.

    So …..what is the connection between the EU, the Bilderberg Group and the almost completed TTIP? (Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership)

    The Bilderberg Group meet in secret each year and they are a group of phenomenally wealthy men and women from the worlds of big business, banking and politics, coming from across Europe and the US.

    The TTIP represents an integral component of Bilderberg’s attempt to rescue the unipolar world (New World Order) by creating a “world company,” initially a free trade area, which would connect the United States with Europe. Just as the European Union started as a mere free trade area and was eventually transformed into a political federation which controls upwards of 50 per cent of its member states’ laws and regulations with total contempt for national sovereignty and democracy, TTIP is designed to accomplish the same goal, only on a bigger scale.

    The treaty is likely to advantage the corporations of both the US and the EU, while disadvantaging their people. It presents a danger to democracy and public protection throughout the trading area.

    The Bilderberg Group are focussing on how to derail a global political awakening that threatens to hinder Bilderberg’s long standing agenda to centralize power into a one world political federation, a goal set to be advanced with the passage of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP),

    Bilderberg globalists are aghast and there is panic in the ranks that their planned EU superstate is being eroded as a result of a populist resistance all around Europe, mainly centred around animosity towards uncontrolled immigration policies.

    And just who might we expect to find at such a secret gathering? Angela Merkel, Herman Van Rompuy (ex President of EU Council), Jean Claude Juncker, (Present President of the EU Commission), Martin Schultz,( Present President of EU Parliament), David Cameron, George Osbourne, Tony Blair, Ed Balls, Rona Fairhead, (Chair of the BBC Trust), Michael O’Leary of RyanAir, Stuart Rose (ex M & S, and BSE Chairman), Bill Clinton, Barak Obama………..…and many more. What do they all have in common? They are all trying to persuade you to stay in the EU. Why? Because it is in their warped self interest to do so! Is any of this in your interests? Absolutely not! Their modus operandi is that truth becomes lies and lies become truth. Sound familiar?

    No possible option available, other than to get Out of EU ASAP. Vote Leave!

    • kereru

      That’s why BO has found it necessary to rush over to the UK and threaten trade sanctions if they vote to exit the EU, and whispered sweet nothings to Frau Merkel for being such a great partner in crime. Bilderberg always attracts a motley collection of the world’s movers and shakers with funny handshakes, assorted royals, and Big Fish such as Soros, Rothschild and Kissinger. Of course they’re only having a little chat about this and that. That’s why it has to be so secret, of course.

  • Petem8nz

    Does this warrant a check/gun license revocation by the police? I sure thought it would