What a surprise: tresspass notices don’t work on beggars

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Beggar with a smart phone on Queen Street, Auckland

Wonders will never cease, trespass notices are being ignored by beggars.

Trespass notices are not enough to keep beggars from hassling Asians in Auckland for money and cigarettes, a business owner says.

Last Thursday, the Herald reported that five rough-sleepers had harassed customers in Esquires Cafe on Courthouse Lane.

One became unruly after being asked to leave. Police arrested him, and he was later given a trespass notice banning him from the premises.

On Friday, police were again called to the cafe after three men and two women hassled Asian diners there.

The beggars were all given trespass notices.

The cafe owner, who wanted to be known only as Ms Li, said those who were trespassed were banned from entering Esquires, but that did not stop them loitering around the outdoor seating area where smoking customers were, because it was outside the cafe.  

“This is very annoying to the customers, and it is very frightening because they are not sure what they are going to do,” Ms Li said.

“The gang only focused on Asian customers. I think they have seen that they had luxury bags, late-model iPhones …”

Last month, the group started throwing ashtrays and containers from tables after staff discouraged customers from giving them anything. One male staff member was also attacked.

Ms Li said the three police officers who came to the cafe around 4pm on Friday spoke to the five people, and told her all of them were given trespass notices.

Auckland’s Asian communities have been on edge following a spate of attacks.

A 22-year-old business student from China, who gave her name only as Nina, said her iPhone 6s was stolen about two weeks ago in Freyberg Square – near the Esquires cafe – by an apparently homeless person.

“I loaned him my phone because he said he needed to make an emergency call because his friend was having a heart attack,” she said. “But he took it and just ran away.”

She did not make a police report because she didn’t think they would do anything, but said the incident left her frightened.

Goro Usui, who owns Sushi Train Restaurant at Chancery Square, said his restaurants had also been hit by rough-sleepers.

He alleged that sushi, drinks and a tip box had been stolen, and toilets were periodically soiled by beggars.

“I have called the police more than 10 times, but most of the time, by the time the police get here, all the people are gone,” Mr Usui said.

There is no reason in New Zealand for beggars to exist. We have a comprehensive welfare system for people genuinely out of work, ill or otherwise unable to work.

We have state housing, welfare agencies and many more charities addressing issues of poverty.

When your beggars have smart phones you know it isn’t a poverty problem…it is a crime problem.

 

– NZ Herald

 


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  • Urbanviper

    Trespassing doesn’t stop people being near the property. It is a shame. I trespassed a woman from my office but it hasn’t stopped her parking outside ten meters from my desk watching me for an hour or two at a time while chain smoking. It could be harassment but no actual threats made and it is a public space where anyone in theory has a right to be.

  • RightyTighty LeftyLoosey

    I am sure these losers will collect a benefit of some sort or another. A law should be passed that will cancel your benefit if you are caught begging.

  • raumatirover

    The beggars wouldn’t loiter and abuse customers if they knew they’d be tasered. What gets me is the bit about toilets being periodically soiled. That suggests the beggars leave a deliberate mess. That’s a double tasering and make them clean it up.

  • bristol

    A friend of mine, with a retail business in Wellington, always brings out a bucket of soapy water and a squeegee to clean the shop windows whenever these people park their bums outside his business. He’s a really messy window washer, and they soon move.

    • Old Kiwi

      A hose to ensure all soap is removed from windows would be handy as well.

    • johcar

      Many years ago, I worked in a pub off Fleet St, opposite The Sun (before it moved). There were grates in the pavement where the heat from the presses was expelled. The dossers loved sleeping in on or near them, especially in the winter. But the area got very dirty and smelly very quickly with these people living there. So The Sun would make a periodic donation to the fire service who would come and hose off the pavement. Moved them on well…

  • RobT

    The “Powers that Be” need to start taking their well paid jobs seriously and at the same time grow some b*lls.
    This soft approach to these opportunist beggars is only going to get worse…as they and future beggars realise they are getting away with it due to weakness and politically correct attitudes.
    Take a leaf out of Singapores book and jump on it right now!
    They are across our great country making the place unkempt and somewhat trashy!

    • Ross

      An interesting test would be the threat of arrest.

      If you truly are homeless, then a roof over your head for the night and a meal probably sounds like a great deal.

      I can guarantee if most of these people were asked whether they’d like to pack up their stuff and move along or spend a night in the cells, they’d be out of there quick smart!

  • John Colbert

    Scum of the earth …. Depriving real people in hardship of opportunity’s … Time to bring out some Communist justice.

  • Usaywot

    I’ve seen two young, able bodied maoris, a male and a female, with a large dog, begging a couple of doors from the Auckland ISite. All tourists walking to the Isite have to pass them. Great look for Auckland, eh? There is absolutely no excuse for those two to be begging and at the very least they can get rid of the dog, dogs cost a bit to feed.
    Edit spelling

    • RightyTighty LeftyLoosey

      The dog is part of the show. Designed to pull on your heart strings. They will no doubt have a sign that says they need money for dog food.

      • Usaywot

        Yeah, you’re right. In England most beggars have dogs because the english are nuts about dogs. I would have hoped NZers would have more sense.

  • cows4me

    Part of the problem is the dis empowerment of the people by the state. “Oh you can’t touch these people they have rights” or “the state will take care of disorder”. This is what decades of liberal ideals and politics have brought us. The riff raff in this country now have more rights than the taxpaying citizens. This problem should be laid squarely at the states feet but of course they are either to liberal, to lazy or they would rather have the police hunting down evil speeders. In days gone by these people would have got the message that they aren’t welcome, not now, we are much to civilized for that. Welcome to the future New Zealand.

  • oldmanNZ

    if someone ask me to use my phone for emergency, I never hand them my phone.

    I dial the number and put it on speaker phone while I still hold it.
    no privacy? tought, get your own phone if you want privacy.

  • Hard1

    Lack of Police enforcement is the issue here. Civilians are hogtied by the law. So the law must deal with it as it occurs. Here is the relevant Harassment Act 1997 in part;
    3/ Meaning of harassment
    (1) For the purposes of this Act, a person harasses another person if he or she engages in a pattern of behaviour that is directed against that other person, being a pattern of behaviour that includes doing any specified act to the other person on at least 2 separate occasions within a period of 12 months.
    (2) To avoid any doubt,—
    (a) the specified acts required for the purposes of subsection (1) may be the same type of specified act on each separate occasion, or different types of specified acts:
    (b) the specified acts need not be done to the same person on each separate occasion, as long as the pattern of behaviour is directed against the same person.
    (3) For the purposes of this Act, a person also harasses another person if—
    (a) he or she engages in a pattern of behaviour that is directed against that other person; and
    (b) that pattern of behaviour includes doing any specified act to the other person that is one continuing act carried out over any period.

    25/ Offence to contravene restraining order
    (1) Every person commits an offence who, without reasonable excuse,—
    (a) does any act in contravention of a restraining order; or
    (b) fails to comply with any condition of a restraining order.
    (2) Subject to subsection (3), every person who commits an offence against subsection (1) is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to a fine not exceeding $5,000.
    (3) Every person who commits an offence against subsection (1) is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years where—
    (a) that person has previously been convicted on at least 2 different occasions of a qualifying offence; and
    (b) at least 2 of those qualifying offences were committed not earlier than 3 years before the commission of the offence being dealt with by the court.
    (4) For the purposes of subsection (3), a qualifying offence, in relation to the offence being dealt with by the court, is an offence against subsection (1), where the 2 offences are committed in respect of—
    (a) the same restraining order; or
    (b) restraining orders made for the benefit of the same person.

    So there you have it. The Police are not doing their job. They are either unwilling or unable. I would pick unwilling.

    • Mark

      Its ok,now that they are stupid enough to pick on the Asians,other Asians will deal with it,had your chance NZ Police,you ignored the issues with these scum for years & this is how criminal gangs gain power,filling the hole you can’t be bothered stepping up to.

  • I see some of these bludgers daily.

    There is a group of overweight Maori male and female about 5 or 6 of them that move around the the CBD, K Road and Ponsonby regularly, I’ve offered them jobs more than once (cos I’m an evil bastard-but the jobs existed), now when they see me coming they don’t even bother and in fact tend to try hide. Bloody hard to hide when your 150kg plus in your sweats and Nike’s with Samsung S5 in ya fat paw.

    There are a couple of guys I used to see but haven’t for a while that clearly have mental health issues but the rest of them are just preying scum.

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