Surprise, surprise, if you flood the CBD with cops then crime drops

As predicted here on the weekend the Police are praising themselves for a quieter Auckland CBD.

An overnight police operation in central Auckland targeting alcohol-fuelled behaviour and drink driving has uncovered less disorder than usual, the police say.

A spokesperson said Auckland police were pleased with the results of the operation, but were disappointed people were still drink driving.

More than 70 officers were involved in the operation, which concentrated on Ponsonby, Mission Bay and the CBD.

Inspector Mark Benefield says while officers still had to make some arrests, disorder linked to alcohol was less than on a typical Saturday night.  

He said while he was pleased with the operation, he was disheartened by the drink driving arrests.

“We’ve had 15 drunk drivers which is a disappointment, we’d like to have zero,” he said.

“You know, it would be great to have an operation where we have zero people – not [zero] drinking, so to speak, but driving safely and not having to be prosecuted for drink driving.”

He said there were also encouraging results from an operation targeting off-licence alcohol sales, with none of the 25 shops tested selling alcohol to minors.

Gee, what a surprise. You flood the CBD with more than 70 police officers and the place quietens down.

It was so predictable.

Perhaps the Police might learn from this and have a permanent increased presence in the CBD at night.

 

-Radio NZ

 


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  • Kiwi Sapper

    It takes a while but eventually Constable Plod arrives at the right answer.

    In his defence however, I will say that the Council has to accept a large amount of responsibility for the drunken mayhem and havoc as a result of their extension of alchohol availability hours and refusals to reduce them, despite Constable Plod’s requests when the expected mayhem continually happened.

    • shykiwibloke

      What happened to individual responsibility? Alcohol does not cause issues – over consumption does.

      • Kiwi Sapper

        Sadly, the right of the individual as preached to us by the PC crowd for too many years, totally removes any degree of responsibility for one’s action. It is “always someone elses fault.”

    • bobby

      The council has never extended alcohol hours. The government did that, and also reigned them in as part of the Sale & Supply of Alcohol Act 2012. The Local Alcohol Policy which is currently under appeal (and which this Police PR effort was all about) has appropriately reduced the hours of alcohol availability where the majority is sold and at the cheapest price: supermarkets and bottle stores. To suggest any alcohol-related harm in the CBD in particular is the result of council policy or lack of it is laughable.

  • shykiwibloke

    Cops on the beat in trouble spots – who would have thought that would work!

    • Woody

      When I was a youngster, we didn’t have trouble spots but we always had cops on the beat. I guess they were removed because some number cruncher decided that they were not needed as they cost too much per incidence, ignoring the fact that there were no incidents because they were there and everyone knew that if you couldn’t see a cop on the street he was just around the corner and heading your way. Instant justice too, swift kick in the slats or a painful ear twisting for stepping out of line both much preferable than explaining misdemeanors to mum and dad who were on the side of the cops, not yours.

  • RobT

    Individual responsibility, respect for the law, fear of consequences…all past considerations that before the PC brigade impressed there collective attitudes, helped to save us all from having to endure this perpetual blight on society in general.
    This must surely be a wake up call for the Police that the pussyfoot modus operandi that has crept in, has run its course. It’s now time to really start stamping their authority and show that’s it’s no longer going to be tolerated….”nation wide” not just downtown Auckland.

  • Rob Knox

    Did 23 years front line policing, including lots of years plodding the beat in a funny hat. The police got away from beatwork when they took over the MOT in 1992. Hence the rise in street level disorder and violence. The beat cop stopped a lot of stuff just by his or her presence. Ferals know that when the cop car goes by they have time to do what they do best before it comes back again. They used to never know when a cop would show up on foot. I must admit though that the drunkenness now is a lot worse than I remember. Policing 101 is all about visibility and presence. To be fair to the Police now they simply do not have the resources to throw 10 to 15 people on a beat system every shift, as they did in the main centres in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

    • Gazza

      Bang on the money RK, I did a bit of time in the Auckland CBD wearing the blues including the funny hats (and being called a Wooden Top by CIB staff) in the late 80’s and Auck Central Section Staff supplied extra guys to walk the beat to bolster Beat Section out of Wharf Station (who later moved to Fort St. which is now closed). Now I guess that does not happen and the only time you see Police on the street is as they pile out of the TP wagon when it has all gone wrong. This is nothing new and Mark Benefield knows this as we walked the beat together way back then… Oh and you are right the MoT merger was the worst thing that ever happened to the NZ Police.

      • johnandali

        And now it’s time for that merger to be reconsidered. I’m pretty sure it was John Banks who orchestrated it. I wonder if he would still think it was a good idea of his now. So John, if you’re reading this, and it wasn’t you, I sincerely apologise. And John, if you’re reading this, and it was you, feel free to apologise. Sincerely.

        • Rob Knox

          John Banks was Minister of Police in 1990 and promised the electorate that the police would receive at least 1000 more staff. He then took all the traffic cops, about 1000, and put them in blue without the training they needed. Resulted in a huge drop in morale for both groups and a huge exit of police in the coming years. Pretty much the guts of the experience and knowledge walked out. I believe that the Police is still badly affected by this decision today – look at the way the trust ranking has dropped over the years.

          • johnandali

            I think it would be a good idea if you put it on today’s backchat so that thousands of readers would have access to your very accurate comment. We desperately need to revert to the previous system where we had a separate police force and traffic cops.

            I also have a very strong feeling that John Banks might have been the person who scrubbed the system that required long distance freight to be transported by rail, with the promise that there would be no increase to the numbers of trucks on the roads.

            Again, if John Banks is reading this, if I’m wrong, tell me.

      • bobby

        It’s funny how every former or current policeman who I hear from/read about says the same thing about visible policing working. Only the senior brass say the opposite. It is tragic that the organisation has such a bi-polar view on things.

    • Orange

      Now the CBD is a war zone.

    • bobby

      No-one in the police management agrees with your sage comments. Their mantra is to suggest that visible policing has no affect on offense rates because it is a clever way to avoid publicly saying their resourcing is lacking, or that they can be part of the solution to alcohol related harm when they’re arguing their ideas in the Local Alcohol Policies. To concede that a higher visible presence reduces offending just proves they’re wrong and, organisationally, they simply can’t ever public accept they’re wrong on this topic.

  • Aucky

    I would be a lot more impressed if I knew that level of police presence was going to be in the CBD every Friday and Saturday night with a zero tolerance policy rather than as a well orchestrated ‘oncer’ done in conjunction with the media.

  • Usaywot

    I thought vagrancy was a crime so how about these cops on the beat clearing out the begging vagrants on Queen St while they’re at it.

    • Uncle Bully

      I can just imagine it now:
      “Move on please sir”
      “What?”
      “You can’t do that here. Move on”
      “Why?”
      TSSSSSSS…. (sound of pepper spray)

  • Rick H

    I have always opined that due to the weekends being the most likely time for offences to occur, the police should have a higher “on-duty” presence during the weekends, and a much lower on-duty presence during the week.
    I believe that almost the full force should be on duty over the weekends, and each officer can have some weekends off, but usually, take their 2 days off during the normal working
    week.

    It is simply ridiculous have fewer police on duty, during the highest crime period.
    And to top it off, would not cost one cent more.

  • I wonder how many of these “drink drivers” hit the 250 target but didn’t get to the 400 one?
    The cops are very disingenuous with their information releases.

    But hey…that’s part of the whole justice regimes social engineering policy led by the pinko liberals installed by Helen and never removed by the biggest panderer and poll driven fruitcake of all time Key!

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