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  • Nechtan

    Born today in 1929 Link Wray (born Fred Lincoln Wray Jr.) songwriter and guitarist. He is credited with inventing “fuzz” guitar after punching a hole in a speaker to give a distorted sound.

    Born today in in 1945 Goldie McJohn (born John Raymond Goadsby) keyboard player with Steppenwolf.

    Born today in 1945 Robert Henrit drummer with Argent.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ApXhdT2P1g

    Born today in 1950 Lou Gramm (born Louis Andrew Grammatico) lead singer/songwriter with Foreigner.

    Born today in 1954 Prescott Niles bassist with The Knack.

    Today in 1963 The Beatles went to number 1 on the UK singles chart with “From Me To You” their first number 1 and the first of eleven consecutive UK number 1s.

    Today in 1964 “The Beatles’ Second Album” went to number 1 on the US Billboard album chart in just its second week of release. It was the first album ever to make it to the top that quickly.

    Today in 1964 The Beatles were knocked from the number 1 spot on the UK album chart for the first time in a year, by The Rolling Stones’ self titled debut album.

    Today in 1970Norman Greenbaum went to number 1 on the UK singles chart with “Spirit In The Sky.”

  • Carl

    I hope it’s not the toilet she is waiting for. (pic)

    • XCIA

      Reminds me of Moscow in the 70/80’s. You could start a queue by standing outside a closed shop with a few friends and before you knew it, the queue would be around the corner.

      • DemocKot

        In 90s you could usually buy food but queues were a great place to ask where to “buy’ other goods that were short……

    • Mark

      Well it looks like a Queue waiting for their next boyfriend,maybe she is looking for a new hairdresser or interior decorator?

  • Cadwallader

    I know summer is 4-5 months away still but is it possible to market a line of WO Panama Hats? The head-bands could read “WO” or “Property of John Key’s Trust.” Variations on the theme could be made to infuriate Labour etc.. Just pondering.

    • Dave

      Put them on Trade me. – Be a scream.

    • pisces8284

      Apparently we aren’t going to get a winter this year, so they would be well used

  • George

    To win an election you have to convince the electorate that you are capable of managing the economy with the intention of advancing the prosperity of the country. You then have to identify your vision and a fiscal plan which supports it. A lot like running a business really. In business we set forecasts, targets, budgets and produce business plans. A lot like politics really.

    But there is one glaring difference. In business we plan, with every good intention, but we must have the flexibility to adapt. If and when circumstances change, it is required of us to ajust our forcasts, budgets, targets and plans to meet the changing environment. In politics you are crucified for breaking promises if confronted with the same challenge. There is something dreadfully wrong when a business plan, that is three years old, and in a time of changing circumstances, has to be retained due to the fear of being ridiculed for breaking an “election promise”. The MSM and opposition pounce on any adjustment as paramount to blatent dishonesty.

    I hate election “promises”. Any “promise” can only represent a grab for instant gratification at the ballot box. There is no guarantee that any promise will be relevant in the future. I want a government that responds to change, unshackled by media bait promises. Makeing any political promise, is in itself, unprofessional.

    • Cadwallader

      “Promises” are nothing more than tools of seduction. Promises of wealth, of dragging down the rich-pricks, of free education, free anything etc.. Promises are not therefore policies anymore than an illicit seduction is an offer of marriage.

    • Raibert

      All fine if you believe the politicians have the country / publics best interest at heart. In the current environment it is hard to believe any of our politicians meet this test.

  • I’m not sure if Pak ‘n Save are getting into the right spirit of Mothers’ Day
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  • The remnants of British colonialism in India make for some awkward watching…

    • Isherman

      Recent enough to be in colour too…oh dear.

    • XCIA

      Very good! I can see now why there is talk of wanting to return to the good old days.

  • Nige.

    Lyx answered last nights question with:

    ” lots of party..”

    What is the best party you have been to? (Heard if?)

    • I am the antithesis of anything “party”. I prefer intimate, quiet, deep discussions, kicking the ball ’round. So the best parties would have been the ones I haven’t been to :)

      • Nige.

        Dont be so….reserved.

        You are a party animal. I have never seen someone give so much attention to everyone individually.

        • XCIA

          How come you guys get invites to the Vogue Model party’s?

        • Just because I can do it doesn’t mean it is my natural inclination to do so. I’ve stood in front of crowds up to several hundred people and held their interest for over an hour. But afterwards I’m just exhausted and empty. It’s something I can do, it’s not something I am.

          • Nige.

            Faker!!!!

          • You mean, professional? :) I’ve received many weeks of training to present, educate and entertain from board rooms to halls. But that doesn’t mean it comes naturally.

    • Cadwallader

      Any given Saturday night here!

      • Nige.

        we dont wait til Saturday. Fridays our night!

    • Isherman

      The good ones are sometimes hard to remember in any detail:)

    • cows4me

      The ones that last longer than three days are usually the best.

      • Nige.

        i cringe when this comes on the radio

      • AL357

        Try Rahotu!

        • cows4me

          I have, many times.

          • AL357

            Back around 1980 when I was driving milk tankers for Egmont Dairy I went past a carshed that opened onto the footpath in Rahotu and each time I passed for at least 3 days the same party was still going – opposite the old TAB if I remember correctly! It was tempting to forget about the milk and join in ?

          • cows4me

            Not a lot has changed.

    • Left Right Out

      Best party I have ever been to was my wedding….. I loved the day and night and of course to top it off my beautiful wife

      We had such a fantastic day…… Will be 10yrs in Dec

    • XCIA

      In my misspent youth, I attended some stonking party’s that usually started on Friday and went through to Sunday, but the really best party’s were always the ones you didn’t get to, or so we were told.

    • Lux

      I have so many to choose from … one of the funniest was one of my cooking disasters and everyone got a little bit tipsy.. or a lot.. because of lack of edible food .. it was one of the funniests nights of my life.

      The next morning/afternoon I went out to the mail box and found about 10 or more pairs of kickers.. mens and womens in my letter box .. and more dangling on the fence .. hilarious!!

      • Nige.

        Thanks Lyx.

        (Sorry)

        • Lux

          It’s cool .. no need to apologise. :-)

          • You’re too nice to him Licks.

          • Lux

            Hahahahah that made me choke lol

      • KatB

        Inedible lasagne huh? Next time you’re making inedible lasagne, invite us all around for the after party please.

        • Lux

          This time on the menu was Beef WellingYUkkkK..

          I had spent all day cooking for about 20 people and spent so much money .. not even my dog would it. Wonderful memories though.

    • Dave

      When living in the Manawatu, started driving to Auckland late on a Friday arvo to make a mates party on Saturday, and was going to stay overnight at Turangi at my uncles batch, but when i got there, there was a small party already. A double booking, DAMN!!
      I cautiously knocked, it was my uncles, wifes niece (no relation) and 5 friends having a Hens weekend, come in they said, no problems. Never made it to the party in Auckland, crawled back to Palmerston north on Monday morning exhausted. The place never stopped partying all weekend.

    • ex-JAFA

      Probably an after-gig party at The Powerstation. Performers and those guests with backstage passes only. Although I was a little starstruck to begin with, that was the night I met two men who went on to become good friends of mine, Graham Brazier and Dave McArtney. The drinks (and drugs, for those so inclined) were free and plentiful until at least dawn.

    • Dave

      Another one that wasn’t so good. getting towards 40 years ago, then Fiance was living in a small 3 bed flat whilst completing nursing. Two nurses, one rather large girl in the front room near the lounge. Party for something, anyway, the flatmate arrived back with approx 12 or so drunk English soldiers in tow early on Sunday morning, and the army guys started to take over and get a bit stroppy, the other flatmates BF called the MP’s, and the MP’s forcefully chucked the troops out. But, they were still missing 4, we assured them if we found them we would call. For the sake of our girls safety, we crashed in the girls room and closed the doors. Some ungodly hour a crash and bang, we found a naked soldier in the hallway urinating on the lounge door frame, he was tackled and turfed out, we found the other three in the flatmates bedroom, seems she had a big urge, anyway, as soon as we got rid of them, she was told to leave for security. To their credit, a senior officer visited to apologize, and offered to pay for any damage.

      • Richard

        Was her name Rosie by any chance?

        • Dave

          I cannot remember her name, but i did date a Rosie a few years earlier, farmers daughter, slim, trim and outgoing.

    • Richard

      The best party I have been to, was between the ages of 17-31.

      • Nige.

        Late starter eh?

        • Richard

          Parents managed to contain me in a very restrictive religious environment till then and then all hell literally broke loose.

          • First time I ever got drunk was at 29. And then I made up for the backlog in spades…

          • Richard

            I have a very addictive personality, if I start on something I tend to wind it off the rev counter.
            I have replaced everything else with long work hours, which is good in most ways, but still destructive in others.

          • You’re speaking to a brother in addictive behaviour. Right now, mine are WO and too much food. And those are the least destructive ones for some time.

            If WO was a real job, I would have walked away ages ago. It doesn’t pay enough. But I like it, so I just keep on keeping on at the cost of everything else around me that’s left undone…

    • STAG

      End 9f ski season 1998-99 Sugarbush VT I shouted kegs and pizza, a few other things that are not yet legal it was the end of season kegger to end them all, absolute rager.

      God those were the days.

    • Brent

      The best one’s weren’t Planned, They just Happened.

      • Lux

        Just like the quiet night out .. for one drink …

        and you don’t get home for two days .. or more ……………

        • Brent

          They would normally start on a Thursday or Friday.

    • intelligentes candida diva

      All them because they were the ones I was at *winkwink*

    • A Topless Tequila party. The shyest guests wore a sarong and a lei, while braver souls not much at all. That was alot of fun.

    • willtin

      I haven’t been to my best party yet, but the practise has been fun

  • Left Right Out

    So last night I mentioned in a post I had come across a tea chest full of family pics and had begun scanning them to preserve them. While doing this I’ve been trying to put together the story behind the pics as well, date, location, purpose etc and have come across a couple that the good folk here at WO may be able to assist me with as there is nothing written on the pics.

    First pic is of my Grandmother at a Nation Party function by the looks of it. Any idea who it was for and or a year?? This pic may actually answer a question as I was never sure who she voted for after all her dad was a trade union secretary for the textile industry…… but this pic is well after he had passed

    The second pic looks like it’s at some sort of TV debate? or chat type show…. Any idea of when??

    Any help would be much appreciated

    cheers All

    • XCIA

      That looks like Jim Bolger at the podium?

      • Lux

        Snap I was just going to say the same, he was 35th Prime Minister of New Zealand and In office, 2 November 1990 – 8 December 1997.

        • XCIA

          Do you think that could be Duncan MacIntyre standing at the near side podium in photo 1?

          • Dumrse

            Great minds think alike…….

          • Gaharis

            Yes agree Duncan MacIntyre.

    • KGB

      Bottom left looks very much like a younger Fran.

      • Left Right Out

        Thats my grandmother Jean standing talking to someone and by the looks of it while JB is talk….lol

        • Dave

          I sort of recognize the lady, but haven’t got a name.

          • Gaharis

            Jean Mclean ex beauty and the beast TV with Selwyn Toogood and a Dunedin City Councillor.

          • Left Right Out

            The very same one….. she was a great lady who had a huge impression on me….. miss her to bits

          • Dave

            Thanks, all coming back, Selwyn Toogood was a friend of dads, popped in occasionally so we normally watched his TV show. loved the nickname for his show, “Its in the Bog with Seldom Smellgood”

          • Greg M

            The old man was mates with him, we called him Seldom Anygood. )

          • Left Right Out

            Jean McLean

    • KatB

      Lets Get NZ Right, (on poster at right hand side), appears to have been a 1987 slogan? But the clothing looks to me to be an earlier era than that. Does look like Jim at the podium.

    • kayaker

      The Get NZ Right shot I think is Jim Bolger’s launch in Hastings 1987. The wallpaper!

      • Sailor Sam

        Duncan Mcintyre at the lectern?

        • kayaker

          I think it’s Jim Bolger at the lectern speaking.

  • Carl

    Changed stations on the radio at 4pm to listen to Larry on ZB only to find out he is away this week. Sorry Rachel I wont be tuning in for the rest of the week.

    • cows4me

      Oh dear I’ll be able to sleep in.

    • Curly1952

      Yes, did the same. Listened to pleasant music all the way home instead,

    • Nige.

      Listen to RADIOSPORT!!!! Darcy and gorrin are very entertaining.

      • Carl

        A little fact for you Nige and others. Radio Sport can not be listened to on a frequency in Queenstown. Yes I can get it through an app on the phone but I find it strange they don’t have a frequency here.

        • Nige.

          That sucks. :(

      • MaryLou

        Yes, but the name intimates that it’s….. sport.

        • Nige.

          It’s only 98% sport. There is some golf in there too.

      • Richard

        BHUJA !!!!!

    • kayaker

      Snap! Tuned into ZB just after 5pm driving home, expecting Larry. Changed to National Radio for the first time in ages and got Campbell. So it was my own sound track for the rest of the drive.

    • Hill16

      Snap, on with a cd and sang badly all the way home. I still reckon my singing sounds better than that condescending whine !

  • cows4me

    I see the international news has the story of an eleven year old boy in Talladega USA who shot an escaping burglar in the leg. The burglar who the boy described as a meth-head was caught in the family home. The boy warned the burglar to get out of his house but the burglar paid no heed. So dads 9mm pistol came out, a couple of warning shots, emptied the magazine, as the burglar tried to exit the house, then a shot through the laundry hamper and into the burglars leg as he tried to jump the fence. The boy reckoned the burglar cried like a baby, priceless. He’s a very lucky lad he lives in the US though, here he would be off to a family group conference then grief counseling and dad would be off to the lock up for having unsecured firearm. The US may be home to some real lunatics but they get some things very right.

    • Dave

      And the cops probably had a quiet word to dad, can you please tell him where the bullets are, and how to do a fast reload.

    • Effluent

      I cant quote the numbers, but there are quitea few fatalities every year when people are inadvertently shot by family members , but, on balance, i would rather think that the bad guys weren’t the only ones with guns

  • RobT

    The Warriors ?
    Words fail me! ……Prescription Drugs and flash lollie water…coupled with an overall lack of appreciation and motivation for the role they’ve been chosen for.
    Is it the coaching? Is it the motivators?
    Is it a lack of intelligence? When does this NZ premier team start to get it? Personally I don’t think they can or will!
    Maybe they should be scrapped and if we are to have Premier League team the whole shooting box needs to be rethought and reinvented.

    • Nige.

      Well dumping them has been the best idea yet. Dump everyone, may aswell. The seasons on track to being stuffed anyway. Elevate the next division and let some of the kids with passion for the game shine. Then let the current squad EARN the right to make it back to the premier ship level.

      • RobT

        Just watching 7 Sharp with Dean Lonergan…trying his damndest to mitigate their childish behaviour …thereby lies the problem the whole League fraternity tend to be joy boys and struggle to have an ounce of professionalism!

      • LovetoTeach

        Totally agree- these are supposed to be professionals. if they can’t take that seriously bring the next guys up. Do your job or move on …

    • HunuaRanger

      When they’re looking at paying $1mill “for the right player” and the players act as they have been, it just goes to prove that “the right stuff” isn’t the same as it used to be, much like nostalgia.

    • Usaywot

      If you want some sporting inspiration go and see the movie “Eddie the Eagle” . Marvellous uplifting film.

      • Jude

        That is good to hear, I want to have a family movie night with my girls for Mothers’ day!

  • Wendy

    Damn…I hate the taste of dead rat, but sometimes we all have to swallow one to get what we want.
    I have had to agree to a flawed process that will negatively impact me, but hey, focus on the long game, right?
    What dead rats have you had to swallow and keep quiet about?

  • sandalwood789

    A bit of humour for the evening – a weasel takes down the LHC –
    http://www.gizmag.com/lhc-shutdown/43078/

    Quote – “According to internal documents at CERN, the Large Hadron Collider was knocked out of commission at about 5:30 am CEDT when a weasel caused a “severe electrical perturbation” when it stepped on the bare connections of a 66,000 volt transformer.”

    • Richard

      I have a plan so cunning, you could pin a ……

    • So the thing that was going to destroy the universe isn’t weasel-proof. Doesn’t that just say it all :)

      • sandalwood789

        Yep – “Pop went the weasel…..” :)

    • cows4me

      I thought Andy was in Jordan.

    • Effluent

      I wonder what happened to the weasel…..

      • intelligentes candida diva

        Weasel dead

      • Greg M

        It’s at the animal hospital. In wards 4, 7, 8 and 22. And the burns unit.

  • XCIA

    This is the new toy from Sony that will turn any table top into an interactive surface. I wish this had been around when my two were young, I would have had so much fun.

  • Are there any otherwise good products or services you have put on your personal ban list for ethical or just personal reasons?

    Sony is on mine. I won’t bore you with all the details, but I needed one little screw for a top of the range bit of kit. They refused to give me one. They refused to sell me one. I went in personally to the service centre in Newmarket, and they refused to deal with me unless I committed to a $250 minimum assembly/disassembly charge.

    All that had happened was that one of the 4 tiny screws on the base place had come out. No disassembly required.

    From then on, I decided that they company culture was not deserving of any more of my dollars for as long as I live.

    • Left Right Out

      Thats just robbery … I don’t blame you Pete… it’s just wrong

    • intelligentes candida diva

      Whittakers because they are Halal certified and until it is clear where the certification fees go I am very happy to stick to Lindt

      • Left Right Out

        I’m like that with Cadbury’s as well…… oh and the fact they make all the bars in Oz now… it just tastes different

        • XCIA

          What got me was the Halal Easter eggs, then that poor wretched sole was murdered in Glasgow for wishing his customers and friends a happy Easter.

      • Monty’smate

        You got me going there! So I went to my block of Whittakers chocolate in the larder- and can see nothing on the packaging that says anything whatsoever about it being Halal certified. Are you sure you are correct?

    • Jude

      The only one for me would be MSM.
      I have not bought a newspaper in years and very rarely watch the news.
      I have even stopped reading those news online unless directed by Whaleoil .
      I am finding a lot comes through Facebook and of course I rely on Whaleoil for the most up to date and insightful news and analysis.

      • XCIA

        A couple of weeks ago all of my colleagues, friends and myself received emails from Granny begging us to renew our cancelled subscriptions. The offer was delivery 7 days a week for a dollar a day AND a Jamie Oliver set of cutlery.

        • Jude

          The MSM is a disgrace.It is really funny reading some comments on Facebook. There are an awful lot of people out there who , like us, are fed up with the media “creating” the news rather than simply reporting it.
          Jamie Oliver cutlery signals a poor uptake:)
          Their advertising revenue will be taking a tumble I am sure.

          • XCIA

            The month before (March) it was a Joseph Joseph Nest Storage container set and a dollar a day. I wonder if they will ever get to offering a case of Cristal ;-)

          • Mark

            Wow,this is going to sound a bit off,but I like clever design & I love Joseph Joseph,there are a couple of their items I have no use for that I want to have just because they are so well done.
            I have their Chopping Board at the mo.
            So if there is a Ferald offer involving the nesting utensils I might get sucked in LOL

          • XCIA

            I know what you mean, I have their utensil’s too.

          • Mark

            I actually feel a lot better now!

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            Well you’ve just cost me a lot of money. Had never heard of JosephJoseph so HAD to scuttle off and have a look. OMG I don’t quite want it all but near enough!

          • Mark

            LOL,at least you would actually use it,like for vegetables & salads etc,most of which never touch my lips!

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            Get these pesky veges past your lips and you may be pleasantly surprised, *winks*

        • Lux

          Jamie Oliver has totally turned me off with his sugar tax and trying to get other countries around the world, even herein little old NZ, to think like him.. all when he uses tons of sugar and cooks fattening food?

          Is he a Hypocrite or what?

          Gordon Ramsay thinks he is a fool .. I’m not far behind him.

    • sandalwood789

      I try to avoid halal products.

      I also avoid the MSM. I haven’t watched TV for about 20 years and never buy papers now. When you’re a heavy internet user it’s amazing how quickly you get used to not watching TV.

    • Effluent

      Avast. I made a typo in my product registration, and after numerous futile attempts to contact them to correct it, I had to give up, and switched to Norton. When I was able to reach the avast call centre, in the phillipines, they were incredibly rude, obnoxious, and unhelpful, refused to deal with the problem, and they consistently failed to answer my helpdesk requests. The worst of it is that they keep pestering me to renew..

    • KGB

      All Sealord products, they sold out to the Japenese and use slave ships.
      Anything “Made in France” sinking the Rainbow Warior was an act of war. And their Nuclear testing.
      Cadbury chocolate since they started using palm oil. It simply tastes bad.
      Whittakers for caving in on Halal certification.
      Pork unless it’s free-range.

      • Nige.

        Poor sealord. The unions will kill them.

        • KGB

          Sealord are about to suffer the same fate as their competitors when it comes to the unions. I am pleased they will now have to use NZ registered vessels.
          My hatred of unions does not extend to industries like foreign fishing vessels.
          NZ is about fair trade. We don’t beat, starve, and withhold pay checks from our workers. And we should not eat fish caught by a company that turns a blind eye to such abuse from their own suppliers.
          The Sealord deal was such a wonderful opportunity that should have supplied jobs, wealth, and independence.
          Rant over :)

          • Nige.

            I agree with all that.

            At the risk of explaining: When I was a teenage I worked there we all had a stop work Union meeting that we were all paid for and it was just a load of garbage no one understood or cared about.

            Nice rant!

    • dumbshit

      New Mitsubishi Van, 1989. Overheating problems from birth. Wife returning from Cambribge, over Kaimais, overheated and physically stopped. Towed it home to dealers yard and they were dismantling engine and found the head had faulty cooling port castings. They informed me that they would just put a new head on it and it would be fine. I’m not a qualified mechanic, but I considered the rings needed changing, and the bore honed, at the very least. After much correspondence, with Todd Motors in Wellington, I was invited to a meeting with the Managing Director of the agents here, and I walked out with a brand new van. Unfortunately the only thing it did well was drink petrol. Still a bad taste from that incident.

    • Isherman

      Lisa’s Hummus, mainly because I don’t want to put money into Lisa Er’s pockets with her numerous little crusades, political groups etc. I believe she left in 2005, and I’m not sure if she still has any interests in the company, but there are lots of alternatives anyway…including making it myself, and so avoiding it has just become natural over time.

      • Asian_driver

        Current owners are

        THE NEW ZEALAND CONFERENCE ASSOCIATION

        124 Pah Rd, Roayl Oak, Auckland, 1023 , New Zealand

        Thats Sanitarium, so 7th day Adventists, for some that is a reason not to buy the food, as they dont contribute any taxes to the country

        • Wasapilot

          Well past time the tax laws were changed so that sanitarium, pope brian tamaki and the like pay taxes. This is ridiculus.

        • Isherman

          Right, I hadn’t really bothered checking to see who owned it now, but I found it hard to support her in her Green Party days, and all the other ’causes’ before and since. The Sanitarium thing is a bit of a problem because my young fella would go into open revolt if there was no Weetbix in the house…the other versions don’t cut it, and he doesn’t care for the details of who’s behind it, but at 14 I’ll forgive him that.

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            Urm I’m somewhat over 14 and while I don’t like Sanitarium that much either I do like some of their products so buy them anyway as like your son have tried ‘replacement’ but they just don’t cut it.

    • Lux

      Harvey Norman .. I bought my first computer from them and they would not fix it even though it was under warrenty, it was like trying to push a load of stinky rubbish uphill .. they were so unhelpful and not interested..

      In the end I gave up and told them I would not be buying anything from them ever again, and I never will..

    • Wasapilot

      Ford cars. Years ago we brought a Telstar Ghia. It had all the bells and whistles, and every damn bell and each bloody whistle broke.

      That was the second, and last Ford I have owned, my first was a Prefect, should have kept that one.

      • Nige.

        Fords are great… Except they fall apart.

        Euro assembled ones are OK though.

        • Wasapilot

          Not sure where our one was asembled, maybe Aussie. We got it new, at 60,000 km the head cracked just to top off the dream run. They did fix all the broken bits, we sold it straight away.

          • Miss Phit

            I find wiring looms are often too small to carry the current required to get proper light output (supposed to be 12-13v but often its only around 10-11v. Fitting a dedicated circuit withe decent grade wire and a relay for them usually gets a large improvement.

        • dumbshit

          We had a Mk5 cortina station wagon. I’m sure a candle in the headlight lens would have been brighter than the bulbs that were there. Try driving from Murapara to Wairoa, starting at 5pm, with those headlights! Still get a stronger glare from wife when we reminisce.

          • Spiker

            I concur, the lights are pretty poor. I avoid taking my Mk4 out at night.

      • Oh Please

        Well Ford does stand for Fix Or Repair Daily :)

      • Goldie

        Had two Fords over the course of 30 years, and never had a major problem, both bought second hand. A Laser (had to replace the alternator once) and a TX5 XRi (I think I had to sort the CV joints). Both were great cars which served the purpose admirably, but were getting a bit old and tired when I replaced them.

    • Nige.

      Sony to me us and always has been like Apple products.

      They are difficult to work out how to use. Ie; storing preset station channels and selecting functions etc.

    • Lux

      Buying fish from countdown online .. I received fish so stinky, it stunk my fridge out for days, even thought it was only in there for about 4 hours … that was the last time I ever bought any meat or fish from them.

      • Miss McGerkinshaw

        For me it’s Countdown fullstop.
        When living in Helensville they kept having less and less of the products (Brands) that I wanted – trying to get us to buy in house I suspect.
        Anyhow as they were the only show close one put up with it.
        Then a New World opened up in Kumeu (about 20min away).
        So one day I was in Countdown and another customer asked about a breakfast cereal.
        The assistant, in a very bored voice and with no apology, said ‘Discontinued. Go to Kumeu’. Which I did and now will not use Countdown.
        Was actually quite good as I tended to shop once a month (I buy meat and vege locally) hence saved money by not going in for milk and coming out with $50+ worth of groceries!

    • Nige.

      Get ready for a long boring story….

      There’s a fish n chip shop up the road who we ordered fish n chips from one night via phone order. I wasn’t told the cost over the phone so I just sent the boy up with a $20 on his bike to collect. The order was 80c short. We needed another 80 blimin cents. So you know what they did???? They took half the stuff out and sent him back with half the order and like $11 change. Weird huh?

      So I rang the shop because I didn’t really believe what the lad was telling me but sure enough the guy confirmed it. I asked “where’s the community spirit? Couldn’t you just let him off the 80c or tell him to bring it in next time?”. ” I haven’t got time for this” was the owners reply.

      So I think most people would know what my reply was to him…

      “Well then I haven’t got time for YOU” and hung up. The 80c thing…well woopie. I’d have gotten over it and would have gone back again.

      • That’s a sign of a self employed person that needs a break, or more ideally, a change of career. Customers grind you down over years, and then you turn into quite a monster….

        …I heard somewhere.

        ;)

        • XCIA

          Or, a married person who is living with a piranha ;-)

      • Lux

        Thats a bit rough.. I would never ever turn a child away from food, and all for 80 cents.. that is insane.

        Our local fish and chip shop makes us fresh cooked fish, and we get the best service as they know us, and we always give them free magazines ..

      • Dave

        We help out all our regular clients with all manner of things, a spare screw as in Pete’s example, free advice for others, but we draw the line with the free loaders who we know are purchasing online, and wanting professional guidance. Our trick now is, we cannot visualize it, A needs to match B, and we cant tell, can you come into the shop with some photos so we can better advise. a fair few do, and that gives us the opportunity for a sale, the ones who have obviously purchased online are told we cant help them, but its $87.50 an hour to come and fix it.

      • Miss Phit

        Wasnt a certain chippie who is now a leader in waiting was it?

        • Nige.

          Not unless she was a large male asian five years ago.

          • Miss Phit

            With Labour and their polling they might try anything. A trangender, asian worker persona might gain them some votes.

    • Oh Please

      My list is getting longer and had 2Degrees added to it today – lying sods told me I’d get the fastest internet at the same price as at current, and now threy have reneged. Unfortunately I already have Telecom and Vodafone on my list because of crap service and inability to answer a phone.

      • Spiker

        Its the luck of the draw with telco’s. I was dreading having to call sort out an issue for my uncle with Spark. Did the call back option & the jug hadn’t even boiled before the phone rang. The issue was sorted in less than 15 minutes. I’d been mentally prepared to write off the morning.

    • Mark

      Telecom,Westpac. Air NZ & KFC are on thin ice.

    • johcar

      Samsung. Because of their marketing practices. Develop an app for Android for, say, TV3 On Demand, but only make it useable on a Samsung device.

      Who has the spare cash to go buy a Samsung device just to access the content? The example I provide here isn’t the only one…

      So I don’t buy Samsung products…

      • MaryLou

        That’s pretty much my peeve with Apple. Thinking about it though, both of those and Microsoft – they’re all the same in that regard. Oh, to opt out of all of them…

        I SO wanted this to become a reality:

        https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge#/

      • Moonroof

        Samsung phone (cheap gutless thing I paid not much for, won’t run facebook, good.). Rest of electronics are Sony or Panasonic. I hear Pete, everyone has a different brand experience. If I don’t go back to Sony (or others), it’s because they no longer make things I’d have a use or need for.

        • johcar

          Yeah, for larger appliances, I tend to stick with Panasonic, Bosch, ASUS (for laptops), and for phones, I generally buy a parallel imported Nexus phone, because it’s not often that a major Telco has these on offer…

    • InnerCityDweller

      Not a product or service as such, but for me it’s the U.S.

      All this finger-printing, iris-scanning, cavity-searching nonsense plus incessant questioning as to why I am in their country, just because I am spending 97 minutes in transit, going somewhere pleasant, somewhere people actually want me….

      All easily avoided going through Asia or Dubai, pleasant enough transit with showers, fresh food and no pesky questions. Being treated like a human being v. being treated like a potential terrorist and/or illegal immigrant.

      Worst experience ever? Having to go through U.S. border control (all the bells and whistles) in, wait for it, Calgary…. Seriously? Why would anyone.

      • I’ve yet to set foot in the USA for that very reason. I have no idea what sort of random reasons they may have to make me a special case. Better avoid it altogether.

        • Isherman

          Random questions?…you’re a chimp…straight to quarantine for you.

        • InnerCityDweller

          They don’t need a special reason. The cowboy in charge at the time may just feel like it.

          We had no choice but to transit, after some last minute plan changes, otherwise it would have been a direct flight from Vancouver. Hated every minute. Even InnerCityDwelleress was close to losing her rag and she never does. We’ll never go near the place ever again.

      • Mark

        Fly Hawaiian,Honolulu becomes your entry point,then “Domestic” flight direct to Las Vegas,not as “Casual” but much more relaxed than LA. I say this as traveler who travels with firearms,so I have a 4th degree to go with my 3rd degree grilling.

        What modern air travel has become is an appalling backward step.

        I have no doubt you travel more often than me,it sure would be great to feel welcomed again when traveling!! There simply has to be a better way.

        • InnerCityDweller

          We tend to go international / Europe once a year. As far back as 1991 going through Singapore was a breeze. Transit in LA or San Fran? Not so much, even then. Going through Asia or Dubai is a step back/forward in the right direction. In fact, it’s never been a step backwards. You’re being welcomed as a valued customer and, more importantly, you’re being treated like a human being. After 12+ hours on a plane exactly what you need.

          • Mark

            I keep looking for an excuse to stop over in Dubai just to see the buildings,I need to see Europe properly soon. :( I will see it on fire in my lifetime.

    • Bluemanning

      This evening at the Copthorne Hokianga having beer oh clock and a beach swim the mobile rings, and it’s the Herald wanting me to restart our sub for seven dollars a week. “Never” I said with a chuckle and thanked him for his call. Never, sad really as decades ago aunty herald was OK.

    • twittertit

      Barfoot & Thompson. I won’t go into the details, but essentially like many other property managers, they’ve forgotten that the tenants are paying customers of the owners they represent, and in any other industry, that would make the tenant a client of the property agent – i.e. my client’s client, is my client.

      Several months of dealing with a debacle that still grinds my gears to this day when I think about it. Every time I see a Barfoot & Thompson logo in association with some form of sponsorship, I get sorely tempted to contact the CEO to encourage some of that money to be re-allocated to staff recruitment and training.

      There. Vent over. Moving on.

      • I’m aware that sometimes companies cop it for the behaviour of just one person. It has to be systemic for me to blacklist them.

        If anyone wants their rentals managed in the Nelson region, contact me privately and I can tell you who to avoid.

        • twittertit

          I agree totally, but in this instance it was the agent, the local office manager and head office that dropped the ball.

      • Crowgirl

        I have it in for Ray White because of the behaviour of one of their agents. Won’t deal with them.

  • Left Right Out

    I see the unions were using their human shields again on their special union day

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/79528137/may-day-marchers-clash-with-police-in-us-cities

  • sandalwood789

    Media cover-ups on “immigration” ( invasion ) in Europe –
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2-yuJkhk2w

    Media have gone as far as changing the skin-tone of photos of immigrants suspected of crimes while leaving the skin-tone of white suspects unchanged.

    • MaryLou

      There’s just a little bit of irony that the media sound “outraged” about this. They live there, they could hardly be misled. Complicit is the only explanation.

  • intelligentes candida diva

    On a lighter note Sophia Loren a real screen goddess is gracing tv screens with her brief but classy appearance ina D&G perfume ad

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3425235/Sophia-Loren-stars-Dolce-Gabbana-s-perfume-campaign.html

    • Jude

      Incredible that Sophia is 81.
      She is stunning!

      • dumbshit

        At the “vets” today, and Aussie woman’s weekly had article on Julie Andrews. Turned 80 1st October 2015. Sobering!

        • Jude

          I know, everyone is aging and I tend to forget I am too:)
          Very disconcerting though that I look older than Sophia and I am in my 50’s!

          • dumbshit

            What I can’t come to grips with, is the more physical work I do, the more I ache. Not much use training up for something now, just rest up and then do it, and suffer.

          • Usaywot

            There is no doubt she has had a lot of work done. You are probably a natural beauty.

          • Jude

            That is very sweet of you:)

      • Miss McGerkinshaw

        Yes but with the help of ‘her medical friends’ I would guess.

  • Dave

    Dear National Government, can you please have 1000 of these printed, AO size, framed then hung in every WINZ office in NZ – please.

  • Isherman

    So the ‘Satoshi Nakomoto’ chap behind Bitcoin is an Aussie,…with some tax issues it would seem.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863

  • Eiselmann

    Friends sister in law has severe KDS and also jumps on any passing conspiracy theory, she finally caved in on facebook and asked me to longer comment and correct her on her half baked posts.

    This on the back of another friends husband who , being a liberal elite academic also asked me , a fortnight ago , not to comment on his posts which normally involve a partial understanding of islam and a strong devotion to anything The Guardian newspaper says.

    In the interests of real and long standing friendships I’ve agreed , but not without pointing out, in both cases that I welcome any comments from them if they disagree with any of my posts as I’m not a fan of echo chambers….

    Two lost souls who would never want to actually get the world they say they want to live in and they will always know that there are holes in their world view big enough to drive a truck thru…..facebook can be fun

    • sandalwood789

      So they don’t want to see comments that don’t agree with their world-view.
      A pity.
      Good on you for welcoming *their* comments!

      My guess is that these people simply can’t bring themselves to acknowledge *facts*. Facts that undermine and disprove their beliefs. That would be very unsettling for them so it’s easier to keep one’s mind closed and pretend that said facts don’t exist.

      • Isherman

        You don’t even have to always disprove their beliefs…simply challenging them is a bridge too far in many cases. It’s sad really, social media could be could fun if it was completely devoid of political discussion, which is why I’m no fan of it really.

        • Nige.

          Even just asking people what the alternative to scenarios they ramble on about is enough to break them.

          • Isherman

            And the thing is, people who are really into politics, from whatever side, should be able to argue and bicker in a good natured way, if they are personal friends at least, but it doesn’t often happen like that.

        • Miss Phit

          Just look at the misstruths and just complete bollocks that circulates amoung the kids of today (and sadly some adults) all because it was on the net.

          Sad.

    • Jude

      Good for you expressing an opinion contrary to theirs!
      It is frustrating that some people refuse to even think they could be wrong or misguided.

    • Nige.

      Their asking you not to comment is a sign that you have nearly convinced them.

  • Gaynor
  • Isherman

    You’re going down Chelsea..hard..and at home. Just sayin. Go the Spurs!

  • Lux

    Have you ever been lost for words.. so much so .. you cannot talk?

    • Isherman

      If you’re asking if I have read through comments on sites such as, but not limited to TDB, then yes.

      • Lux

        I have always had a quick reply to most people, and the gift of a smart mouth when needed .. but after leaving a company I loved, a family business, I was asked to give a speech, to everyone after getting presents etc ..

        I went mute and could not speak .. or move.

        My Boss came over and gave me hug.. and said something and everyone clapped.. it was terrible it was like I was in a glass box looking out .. weird.

        • Isherman

          In 20 years at my company I have seen that once or twice when peoople have moved on…I can only imagine how awkward it would feel.

          • Lux

            It was like in those seconds of being frozen, I thought what the hell am I doing?

            I lasted about 2 months at the new job, and rung my old boss.. he said I have been waiting…
            He was a rock to me..

            After I was back at my old place of work with a promotion.. he told me he had a word to my old ex boss of two months.. dunno what went down.. but I was offered a large amount of money that was part of my deal if I did not like or stay at job after three months.. I took half.. that seemed fair.

        • Chris EM

          At my twenty first I did exactly that when asked to say a few words. I think I ran out of the room in the end.

    • Mark

      Yes,but know one who knows me would ever believe that.

  • Isherman
  • Miss Phit

    So… Hypothetically if I was to buy a mountain bike (hard tail) for trails and commuting to work, what should I avoid, or look for? Budget is in the 500-600 range (could stretch a little more if necessary)

    Oh and no I wont be a lycra clad loonie (Not outwardly anyway – discreet underneath is more my style), this current body isnt what people really want wrapped in a skin tight suit.

    • Odd Ball

      There are a few things to consider.
      A good mountain bike is good on trails, but not great on the road.
      A bike that is suited to both commuting & trail riding wont excel at either task.
      Are you going to use the bike on trails very often?, if not, get a bike thats more suited to road use.
      For example, I use a GT Outpost (circa 2010), which goes OK on the road, but it feels heavy & high on trials, and riders with better bikes go faster without even trying.
      Try and find a bike with forks that have a ‘lock out’ setting, because forks tend to bounce as you ride up hills, and that’s a bit of a pain.

  • InnerCityDweller

    I’ve been sent this today – apologies if it’s been posted previously and I missed it:

    “I have a job.

    I work, they pay me.

    I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

    In order to get that pay check, in my case, I am required to pass a random urine test, with which I have no problem.

    What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don’t have to pass a urine test.

    So, here is my question:

    Shouldn’t one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

    Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet.

    I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their BUTT – doing drugs while I work.

    Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?

    I guess we could call the program “URINE OR YOU’RE OUT”!

    Pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don’t.

    Hope you all will pass it along, though.

    Something has to change in this country – AND SOON!

    P.S. Just a thought, all politicians should have to pass a urine test too!….

    They should also have to pass an intelligence test, a common sense test and an understanding the constitution test, as well!”

    • Miss Phit

      Pollies should also have to pass a sobriety test – I cant work while intoxicated (or even after 1 beer) so they should be held to the same stds. If they fail then they get stood down and lose a days pay (and publicly noted for the record too)

      • Lux

        All journalists should have to take the tests as well ..

  • The QI Elves @qikipedia

    Winston Churchill had a doctor’s note requiring alcohol for “convalescence” while visiting the US during Prohibition

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