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  • Nechtan

    Born today in 1923 Ed Cassidy original drummer with the Rising Sons (with Ry Cooder and Taj Mahal) and then Spirit.

    Born today in 1940 Ronnie Bond (born Ronald James Bullis) founding member and drummer with The Troggs.

    Born today in 1949 Zal Cleminson guitar with The Sensational Alex Harvey Band.

    Today in 1974 Grand Funk Railroad went to number 1 on the US singles chart with their version of “The Loco-Motion”

    Died today in 1987 Paul Butterfield, singer and harmonic with The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, of heart failure at the age of 45.

    • Bluemanning

      The Troggs, With a girl like you, nostalgia plus.

  • Nige.

    Glenn answered last nights question with:

    “kept the kids asleep”

    What are your tips for getting the little ones off to nigh nighs?

    • Isherman

      Probably the easiest way is to make sure you tire them out as much as possible during the day, if you can do that, nigh nighs time takes care of itself.

    • Brent

      Can’t Remember it was so long ago.

      • Nige.

        Well….one day there may be grand children so best pay attention.

        • Brent

          Not long to go now.

    • HR

      Routine, and stick to it.

      And alcohol (for mum and dad….)

    • MaryLou

      In my parents day, it was Gripe Water. I remember how much I loved that stuff, turns out it had alcohol.

      For me it was reading to them and stroking their faces just above and beside the eyes. Somehow never failed to make the eyelids droop:)

    • XCIA

      My mother used the traditional methods as passed down by my highland granny. Good single malt whiskey was the cure all. Rubbed on gums that were teething, rubbed on scratches and a teaspoon in night time bottle of milk.

      • Nige.

        Hasn’t cured Winston of anything.

        • Usaywot

          Well he does do a lot of dreaming.

    • Chris EM

      A glass of Port.

      • FornaK

        For you or your kid?

        • Chris EM

          I don’t have kids, but it works for me, so I thought…

          • Mark

            I couldn’t work out how to suggest a Vasectomy?

    • Brian Smaller

      Regular bedtime. Same routine.

      • Usaywot

        and no picking up when they cry. Just look to ensure they’re OK then leave them.

    • Left Right Out

      Our 1yo is still very partial to mothers milk for getting to sleep

    • RightofSingapore

      A certain audio book narrated by Samuel.L.Jackson the title of which I can’t put here.

    • Bryan

      now a grand father i have watched in wonder my Daugther takes her 5 month year old and wraps her in a blanket with both arms wrapped inside up like a cacoon and pops her into bed, and she is asleep in about 2 mins , and turns to me and says “she likes being wrapped in her cuddly blankets” a few days later left in my care to put to bed, so did the same and same result amazing. The other one was I used to read DR Zeus “Sleep Book” to the kids and the wife would come in and find us all asleep and the book only HALF READ haha

    • rantykiwi

      I was lucky. RantyJr was never an issue to get to sleep – drop him into bed and 5 minutes later he was asleep. Only one caveat though – he HAD to have his blanky.

    • D.Dave

      I had friends who used to buy Phenergan by the litre bottle. They said it gave them some time without the kids making any noise. The kids turned out ok, but we were always worried about the affect on their livers.

      • Nige.

        Phenergan???? PHENERGAN!!!!!!

        What kind of monster would even SUGGEST such a thing???

      • MaryLou

        Phenergan! That’s the other one along with Gripe Water I was trying to remember! Lovely stuff… my kids hardly ever got it though, just felt…. wrong

        • KatB

          Dinnefords, was one I remember as a child for unsettled tummies i think. Tasted OK too.

    • Old Chook

      1.Routine 2. Once in bed, keep them in bed by telling them that you are coming back in 5 mins to see how good they are staying there. Then back in 10 mins etc. Child always asleep with a smile. No growling, works a treat. Do it now with the Grandies.

  • Carl

    • Nige.

      And how sad is it that I pronounce both as such. Never “febree” or “whensdee”

  • George

    I have just browsed the comments section on Stuff with regards to the resignation of Mark Weldon. Of course there was a over whelming thread that suggested “good riddance” but what was really staggering was that a totally factual comment, was down voted by over fifty readers.And that comment “Campbell had no ratings, have you forgotten adout that?” Then there followed a whole lot of comments claiming how wonderful Campbell was/is.

    Normally I wouldn’t care but it scares me that when the facts are presented they are challenged with fantasy. One has to ask the question why is their fantasy more appealing than their reality? How can you reason with people in this head space? What really scares me is that these people get to vote. But the saving grace is the party they vote for has currently the same ratings as Campbell Live had. And that is why “once a looser always a looser”. They are all there in Stuff’s comments, the socialist herd of loosers.

    • Spiker

      They are just a vocal minority. Just because they can manage a bunch of down votes means nothing.

    • Carl

      Those fifty down votes were all probably from media works staff, ex and current looking at some of there reactions.

    • MaryLou

      Not being a RNZ aficionado I’ll probably never find it again, but there was a media commentator/ex media person intimating today that it may be partly because of the NZX enquiry, and that he will be required to give evidence in court. This was sandwiched in between a summary of Weldons’ poor performance and the importance of these “talents”.

      What wasn’t mentioned, is the lack of proof through ratings changes, when these “talents” move on.

    • XCIA

      The scary thing is that these lunatics are let loose with a vote that determines our future.

    • Dave

      My question to the Campbell fans is, If John Campbell was so good, why is he a now a mic Jockey at RNZ, and not on prime time TVNZ.

      • Simo

        A racist jock to boot as well by the Facebook comments he seemed to not get upset about

    • Jude

      The fact that Hilary Barry showed up with a boot load of champagne to celebrate the news, of Mark Weldon leaving ,says more about her character than anything else!

    • cows4me

      I can read barely, do you think I could apply for the job, I promise it would be humorous. I could add a simple, touch such is the simple life we lead out here in peasant land .

      • Hard1

        C’mon Cows, aren’t you proud you are feeding the next generation of the Chinese uber-elite, primed to take over the world with ruthless determination ?

  • Dave of the West Bank

    What the heck is the racket that obscures what people are saying when being interviewed in Parliament Buildings?

    It’s really annoying, and doesn’t reflect very well on the country. Are we so non-tech savvy that we have to put up with that nonsense?

    • Spiker

      Thats the most important devise in the building. Its designed to distract you so that you can’t remember a thing about who was interviewed or what the said. Kinda like the memory erasor pen in Men in Black.

      • Dave of the West Bank

        Thanks for that, Spiker.

        About what I thought. I keep thinking that I’ll see that thing from North Korea, Dear Leader, (puke, gag, retch) peering around a corner.

  • Vlad

    In all the ranting nonsense about Mediaworks is there any rational business journalist who has sat back and looked at the numbers & told us if Mark Weldon has moved the forever losing underdog TV3 into a more marketable position as an entity that could be sold on for a useful profit?

    Everyone ignores that TV2 is the profitable component of TVNZ. It does not carry the expensive and unpopular/low earning burden of a bloated news and current affairs staff and costs.

    Weldon may have had his faults in ignoring the need to suck up to the twitterati, but he probably did well in digging TV3 out of an expensive hole. Privately owned companies do not exist to provide cosy homes for journos, they are there to make money and survive.

    • Carl

      It would be interesting to know the thoughts of Duncan Garner and HDPA who owe their jobs to Weldon’s changes?

      • Isherman

        Really? couldn’t care less what they think of it all myself:)

        • Carl

          Not really but with all the vitriol by past and present staff with his leaving some people have benefited from his time in charge.

          • Isherman

            True enough I guess.

        • XCIA

          Usually, all the drama happens when you are not in the office and HDPA is not in the office ;-)

    • Platinum Fox

      There’s an opinion piece by Shamubeel Eaqub on Stuff (http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/79627392/mark-weldon–a-casualty-of-the-brutal-rationalisation-in-the-media-sector) which includes these comments:

      “The gales of change are blowing through media and it isn’t pretty.
      The sheer brutality of the change facing the media sector may surprise some people.”
      Some of those who, I would argue, do not appreciate the need for change are the “journalists” as they clearly do not understand that in order for them to be paid highly inflated salaries for tasks such as reading aloud it is essential that their employer be able to monetise their output. Sadly for the newsroom, TV3 has a history of making losses and its current owners and management have obviously decided that they can no longer afford to support the newsroom staff in the manner in which they had become accustomed.

      • Jafarma

        I thought it was an excellent piece. Probably the most unbiased and therefore truthful and actually ‘stating it how it really is’ article I’ve read on Stuff for years.

        • Platinum Fox

          I can’t remember when I last agreed with a piece that Eaqub has written, if ever. He has understood the disruption that the media industry is in the midst of whereas the comments and actions of present and former Mediaworks staffers and others in the MSM demonstrate that they do not understand the reality.

      • RightofSingapore

        Well if a CEO lays people off and makes other unpopular changes that accelerate the dumbing down of the news, then he deserves scorn and ridicule. This week he even said NZ didn’t have enough “reality” shows! That shows he is unfit for purpose. If I worked there I’d celebrate too at his departure, these mongrel CEO’s and Managers who turn people’s lives upside down because of the failures of management need to be punished, they deserve everything bad that comes their way.

        • Hard1

          Two things to observe. Dumb people respond to Television advertising. This is accurately measured to the finest detail, and advertising prices are tailored to viewership that responds to advertising. Therefore, many who read this blog are not a target audience for privately owned broadcasters. Colin Meads, anyone?
          Secondly, dumb people are increasing as a percentage of the population. So expect more programming targeting those who are easily lead to buy useless products at inflated prices, who have an income and can spend hours idly staring at moving things in a frame. These are the three essentials of the target audience, the gullible. Without them, private broadcasting cannot exist.
          Expect more and more and more pure junk. The target demographic are just waiting to be exploited. You don’t matter. Pleas for quality content will fall on deaf ears. You don’t spend.
          You have been excluded.

        • Platinum Fox

          The real situation is that the news programmes have not performed financially and they are expensive to produce due in part to the level of salaries paid to the presenters. The total business at TV3 needs to generate income across the portfolio of programming offered and it would appear that the economics of reality shows is better than that achieved by other types of programming.
          My remotes don’t tune in to reality programmes but, as I used to remind analysts, one shouldn’t assess the economic worth of businesses by reference to one’s own interests or preferences.

  • sandalwood789

    Great to see “the Donald” win the Indiana Primary today.

    Apparently Cruz has now dropped out so that only leaves Kasich (far behind Cruz) to oppose Trump. Looking good for “the Donald”.

    • Aucky

      He’s looking real good for the nomination unless something untoward happens at the Convention. Hilary will be choosing the new drapes and the wallpaper for 1600 Pennsylvania Ave as we speak.

      • biscuit barrel

        I thought the Cruz and Lee Harvey Oswald connection was interesting.

        His old man was a castro supported back then.

        • Usaywot

          So do I take it that some of the above commenters support Trump? I sincerely hope that’s not the case.

          • sandalwood789

            Sorry to disappoint you but *I* do!
            He is one heck-of-a-lot better than Hilary.

            There is -*no way* that Trump could be worse than Obama or Carter. *Clinton* would be. So would Sanders.

          • Carl

            I heard a commentator saying that Donald could get a few of Sanders voters as he is not part of the political establishment. Seemed strange but could understand it in a way.

          • Usaywot

            Oh well, more fool me. To think that a misogynist, racist,egotist bully is the best the states can do. They’re stuffed.

          • These guys don’t get to where they have got by being nice, Trump just doesn’t try to hide it.

          • RightofSingapore

            Racist for wanting to secure the border and keep Americans safe? Do you understand the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigrants? The rest of your comments are just the usual SJW crap.

          • Richard

            Works pretty well for Winston.

          • Nige.

            I wonder if he will make as good a gun salesman as Obama…or Clinton.

          • Usaywot

            Did I say anywhere that I liked Clinton? Not at all. I’m just saying that they haven’t got anyone worth having, that’s all.

          • Nige.

            No. No you didn’t.

            *backs away slowly.

          • Usaywot

            Thank you! I respect other peoples views on here and love a good debate, so no problem. Things will get interesting in the USA elections as time goes by, no doubt.

          • JEL51

            Very often the toughest talking has the softest of hearts. Some people are quite deceptive in character. If you take away the labeling you may have a chance to see into the real personality. Give it a try, you may be quite surprised in what you discover.

          • KatB

            I think Trump is one of those guys that says things to get a bite. A lot of the stuff he says, I’d say he doesn’t really believe, he’s just baiting people. From what I’ve seen of his daughter, she doesn’t give me the impression of being raised by a misogynist or bully. Get past his brash exterior, I think Trump may be quite a decent guy. His political uncorrectness is certainly refreshing.

          • Builder

            Maybe you have believed all the BS dished out by the MSM. Watch this video from an employee to see how the people that know him really think: https://youtu.be/lxaKUo5naoY

          • Mark

            I don’t disagree with you,but Trump is still better than Hilary who will willingly destroy America,granted Trump might manage the same thing but his intentions are quite different.

          • Huia

            They have one in the hot seat now, so I guess they are used to that type of person Usaywot.
            Like him or hate him, I think Trump is saying a lot of things the people want to hear as they have lost total faith in the undermining of their culture by Obama/Clinton.

          • Richard

            Democracy in action.

          • Nige.

            And YOU say “usaywot”?

      • sandalwood789

        Maybe………. then again, maybe not.

        She has had a really cruisy run so far in the Democrats’ race. That will change in a big way if Trump is her opponent. Clinton has a cemetery-full of “skeletons in the closet” and a mountain of “dirty laundry”.

        I just wonder how many Americans will want a President who cries when put under huge pressure. A President who would make Nixon look like a saint.

        I’m not writing Trump off yet……

    • Spiker

      Its going to be fun to watch the Clintons dirty laundry being front and centre for the next few months.

      • XCIA

        I think it will be even funnier when the Trump closet doors are opened.

        • Spiker

          But will he care?

          • XCIA

            Of course not, he has a hide thicker than Peter’s, but I’m picking it will be more entertaining than what the Clinton’s have on offer.

          • Spiker

            Well I don’t doubt the Clinton machine will have been doing overtime digging for his dirt. Or maybe they will count on him teaming up with Vince Foster. :-)

          • XCIA

            If it runs true to form, some aggrieved idiot from the past will jump out to muddy the waters.

        • Tiger

          Yeah, but the voters expect Trump to have “dirty laundry” and he would be the last person to pretend he was a goody two shoes.

          • sandalwood789

            Yep – he’ll shrug it off and say “big deal”.

            Clinton, on the other hand, has some *super-serious* dirty laundry. Benghazi. Her email server. Various financial goings-on.

            If Trump’s dirty laundry is like a tin of rotten tuna, Clinton’s is like a sewage works.

          • Old Dig

            Exactly. The mud won’t stick to Trump. Bill Burr sums it up nicely in this video.

          • Huia

            Not to mention being thrown off the Watergate committee for dirty dealings. Then there was White Cliffs or whatever it was called.
            As a point of interest, the Clintons have been the only first family in White house history to take all the furnishings with them when they left.

        • Justme

          In Trump’s mind, any publicity is good publicity. He’ll probably even have a closet door opening day.

    • Isherman

      Cruz ‘resigned’ according to Rachel Smalley…she really does have a way with words sometimes.

      • She also said Trump was clueless, I guess she would know something about clueless.

        • aero13

          And “the world is going to be in a mess if he becomes President”. boo-hoo boo-hoo,…….hahahahahahahaa!!!

    • Metricman

      Heeeeerrrre comes the Trumpslide. Nothing gonna stop it now !!!!!

  • Hard1

    Something of interest…..”To think we can treat heart disease by lowering cholesterol, lowering blood pressure and lowering blood sugar with medication is like mopping up the floor while the sink overflows.”
    “We treat these problems with medication, but studies have increasingly shown that treating these risk factors has only little benefit, or none at all. Research shows changing your lifestyle can be a more powerful intervention to prevent heart disease than any medication.
    The “EPIC” study published in the Archives of Internal Medicine studied how 23,000 people adhered to four simple behaviors: Not smoking, exercising 3.5 hours a week, eating a healthy diet and maintaining a healthy weight. Adhering to those four behaviors alone prevented 93 percent of diabetes, 81 percent of heart attacks, 50 percent of strokes, and 36 percent of all cancers.”
    I still smoke, stomach is 540 cc’s, normal weight, exercise regularly with naturally high cholesterol. At 56, the ciggies are going to have to go.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/the-biggest-drug-to-rever_b_9824062.html

    • hookerphil

      After almost 50 years with numerous attempts to stop finally did, best thing i ever did. Good determination with that.

      • XCIA

        Same here, but I would be back smoking in a “heart beat” if I hadn’t been as rash as to promise someone I would give it away.

        • Dave of the West Bank

          Well done, you two!

    • Salami Warning

      Hope you can. At 30 a day my lady told me that I was never to smoke after I turned 40. She paid 300 bucks for Ziban through my Doctor for my 39th birthday. I followed the course and succeeded. Never looked back but regret smoking because I found out that the blood pressure increase caused has blown my aorta out to XXXL. Bottom line is that it could burst like a bike tube if I let my blood pressure get out of control. If it blows death will be certain but fast.

      • hookerphil

        You can get a new aorta. I have, 8 years ago. Basically from a birth defect.

  • Dave

    Fun and Games over here. Federal budget last night, a good budget in that its mainly “steady as she goes” Lawrence Springborg leader of the Libs in QLD has called a Leadership spill for his own position, they vote on Friday.

    And finally, against any hope, Clive Palmer has announced he will not stand for the seat of Fairfax again. He is as popular as a skunk over here, and only polled 2% in a recent survey. Far better he ran in my opinion, so the voters can have the satisfaction of proving they don’t want him.

  • Dave

    Spent a few days in Brisvegas a week ago for a course, and managed a lot of walking around south-bank and then up to Roma Street Parklands in the day between lectures.

    Highly reccomend the Roma Street Parklands, a 10 to 15 min walk from the CBD and a world away. The water dragons are amazing, this little chap had a nibble on my sandals, then the backpack, so tame.

    • Left Right Out

      Will be over at the start of June….. Haven’t been to Southbank since 2004

      • Dave

        Wow, enjoy, i suggest a whole day walking round there and brissie, we started walking over the Goodwill foot bridge, and a coffee at the top, a small coffee cart with seats, an amazing view, then a walk along Southbank, and back over at the other end.

        Also worth noting, the Eat Street Markets on a Friday and Saturday night markets near Bretts Wharf, a 15 min ferry ride from the CBD, and the Sunday markets in the Gardens.

        • Left Right Out

          When I left Brissy I think they were only starting to develop Roma st so it will be cool to see how it turned out. Plan to spend a day in and around Southbank….. When I was training at UQ gym during winter we always headed to Toowong Sizzler for a post session feed… 3 times a week… they even kept a table for us!!! Have friends out Ipswich way so will try and get out there as well on a day……. I’m pretty sure the 13yrs I lived in Brissie there were road works on Ipswich road somewhere everyday

          • Dave

            We love the Regatta at Toowong, and I lived in Auchenflower for a few years, the Regatta was the local. I’m sure you will enjoy going back.

    • Cool. Got some rellies there now, so have made a mental note to go visit that spot next time I’m there. Looks like fun.

  • Salami Warning

    For a party political broadcast on behalf of the labour party tune to Newstalk ZB from 4 until 7 weekdays until common sense prevails.

  • STAG

    There’s nothing like knowing your social standing.

    Like the cold contempt a rain wet cat shows you wit his presumptive air as he invades your lap, mercilessly kneeds your man berries into just the right position and then demands you pat his sopping wet fur which sheds all over you and just when you’ve resigned yourself to this situation, for no apparent reason said cat simply leaves to take up residence on the small ledge just in front of the TV!

  • XCIA

    A colleagues father turns 100 tomorrow and his mother follows on with her 100th in June. He was pleased and proud to receive congratulations from HM, the GG and the PM. He wasn’t so pleased to receive messages from PDB, Goff and Little whom he dislikes with a passion!

    • STAG

      Send them back as junk mail.

      • XCIA

        From what I gather they are not on the mantle piece…..

        • Nige.

          Under?

        • Carl

          It’s the new heating of rental houses plan for labour. Give people stuff to put on the fire.

          • Wheninrome

            A woollen jersey, insulates as well, worked for me as a child, still works as an adult, more refined merino, can’t beat it in my book.
            We are going to morph into weak people who need to be mollycoddled to survive. How will that turn out in the coming generations, of course global warming will take care of that, according to the learned.

      • FornaK

        Return to sender….. Cue elvis memories

  • Left Right Out

    Not sure if it’s been posted before…… but it was a good listen…… he could be talking about NZ right now

  • johnandali

    At last the truth has come out about the controversial rotten intersection on SH1 at Warkworth. And it’s in Grant McLaughlin’s opinion piece in the Herald – but you’d have a job trying to find it. So here it is:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11632893

    I’m very interested to see that local developers have had to pay a surcharge to develop the intersection, but when the Rodney Council disappeared and the area became part of the Auckland Super City, the large amount of money that had been contributed simply disappeared, and nobody knows what happened to it. Surely an enquiry is necessary.

    The article also pinpoints the problem with the intersection. It’s called incompetence. And woe betide us if Phil Goff ever becomes Auckland’s mayor. He calls the highway from Auckland to Whangarei “The Holiday Highway” an insult if there ever was one.

    And the newest motorway extension to Warkworth will be constructed in about 6 years time. Another tollway. And it would be interesting to find out what has happened to all the petrol taxes paid for all those years by people living north of Auckland, and all they get is a toll road. I drove from Taupo to Rotorua the other day. If it’s not the best highway in NZ, I’d like to know. Plenty of passing lanes too. And free. And compare that with the Puhoi to Whangarei Road if you can call it that. It’s a disgrace.

    Somebody somewhere needs to answer a lot of questions about this rotten road of ours. Phil Goff perhaps, or possibly one of his mates.

    • Wheninrome

      A political football, the highway is necessary, if they built the roundabout (s) at the hill st intersection imagine the left cries regarding John Key and his bach at Omaha, get the highway underway and then sort out the intersection, also a new road from Matakan road back to SH1, there will be a lot of truck movements during the highway build.

      • Hakaru

        I have to bight my teeth saying this but if Winston stood up in parliament and banged on about the ridiculous situation at the Hill Road intersection it would do him and NZF more good than his trying to take down the PM. He could have a field day getting Simon Bridges to explain why nothing can be done immediately because there will be a new road in 6 or 7 years time. I know it is not his electorate but what happens here affects all of the people north of Warkworth and National better have some answers otherwise they might lose another electorate to inaction when people are being held to ransom by by unseen government officials doing due diligence for the last 20 years.

    • rantykiwi

      I hate that intersection. It was turd when I travelled it twice a day through my secondary school years (loooong ago) and hasn’t improved one iota since, even with the addition of traffic lights. It should be addressed right now with twin roundabouts – and the council owns the necessary land (the ex-caravan park adjacent to the road there).

      However I tend to support a full bypass of Warkworth – having a state highway split a town in two is just mental.

      • Aucky

        Spot on RK. I have been driving on the Matakana-Warkworth road for thirty three years now and the Hill Rd intersection has barely changed. During that time Omaha has more than tripled in size, Matakana has exploded and rough old sheep country turned into vineyards and olive plantations. The rates take must be massive. I’m all for North Rodney seceding.

        • rantykiwi

          We probably know each other then – I grew up there and have lived there on and off ever since.

      • johnandali

        The new tollway is going to bypass Warkworth, and it will terminate at the showgrounds just north of the township. The bypass to Matakana is planned to go from that intersection, and I believe that the land surrounding the exit area will be commercialised, and we’re told that there may be a Harvey Norman, a gas station and a Pak ‘n Save there. However, it’s years away, and the contract hasn’t even been signed yet. Because there will be tolls to pay on the motorway, there will probably still be a lot of traffic on the old highway. The population of the Warkworth area is due for a big boost, and there are several very large development blocks nearing completion. We’re told that traffic densities increase by 10% per annum, and if that’s a compounded figure, by the time the motorway extension is completed, there will be twice as much traffic on the road that there is now. A couple of years ago at Xmas, it took me an hour to drive 17 km to Wellsford. Double the traffic, and it could take two hours. And if you live in this area, as we do, it’s like living in a prison. And if you want to compare areas and highways, take a look at the North-Western Motorway extension. No tolls. No traffic congestion. It just goes to show how stupid our roading engineers are when they completely ignore such an important tourist and residential route to Whangarei.

  • Scratchings

    A news story that might break very early tomorrow was alluded to tonight by Andrew Dickens (during the Drive Show). The only clues he gave were ‘crime-related’ and ‘holding implications for the public purse’. Is Amy about to announce a Bain payout? Or perhaps Dickens was being ‘clever’ and it’s actually a NON-payout? For me I certainly hope it’s the latter. Not one red cent Amy!

    • Isherman

      Heh, if its, it will be the story of the day, and will distract from Andrew Littles & the media party’s renewed focus on John Key’s lawyer,..what terrible timing. Never mind all and any other issues around his Lawyer’s other clients have nothing to do with Key.

  • Greg M

    The amusing thing is that these people celebrating and taking boxes of Peroni and Moet in this arvo will be getting noticed by their new boss already. Do they not realise the stupidity doing what they did, or are they so insular and self centred they think they aren’t answerable to management?

    • You got it in one. The next person through the door is simply going to implement what the Board wants. Just because Weldon ran out of energy doesn’t mean the next person won’t get stuck in with gusto.

      They need someone who is a real outsider. I’m thinking a South African or an American.

      • Greg M

        Wouldn’t be surprised if Oaktree capital have a few contenders lined up already, They have a solid reputation for protecting their investments. With $ 97b USD of assets under their management fools like the prima donna’s we saw on display today don’t have a dogs chance.

        • Fascinating how “nz media” act like a single organism when under attack. The only exception here being the herald because they are johnny nomates.

      • Dave

        And all these little media darlings are proving to the Board with their antics, is the next CEO needs to be as hard as steel, and as caring as a grizzly bear.

      • Miss Phit

        Ill do it.

        I can be heartless and robotic when its needed. Ex military so I can handle the crap and I wont cry when someone says bad things about me (cant guarantee I wont make anyone cry though).

        Oh and I dislike the lefty crap 3 has on so it would be nice to rub some of that stuff out…

        • I was in a lovely dissociative state some years ago when I was deeply depressed. I could easily have been a sniper or a corporate hatchet man. I simply had no empathy for anyone :)

          This is how I got my moderation street cred too ;)

          • Miss Phit

            Im a great people person, apart from having to deal with people. I find coffee helps. Not with dealing with people but I like coffee and a cup of burning liquid tends to keep them at bay…

            LOL

  • rantykiwi

    I love systems that only have a command line, not a GUI. It means when the bloody cat jumps on the keyboard and helps you to type much less damage is done. I am so glad that RantyNotKittenAnyMore didn’t manage any sort of rm -rf * sort of thing.

    Has anyone ever had a cat typing disaster?

    • EveryWhichWayButLeft

      Sort of… I shot a few cats on a mates farm a few years back, but one of them had a collar with a little bell on it.
      It was the wrong type of cat to shoot apparently (i.e. a cat typing disaster – being the wrong type).

      • rantykiwi

        No comment – I shot a pig that was destroying my (rural) garden a few years ago. Cue much wailing from the neighbours about me dispatching the largest Kunekune ever known to mankind.

        • Spiker

          Never mind that it got to that size care of feasting on neighbours veggie gardens?

        • Huia

          I’m not going to say much but years ago Dad was in his shed and a large white duck landed by the door of the shed, quick as lightening he had it by the neck, rang its neck and it was on the menu.
          Mum and Dad were part way through plucking the darned thing when a kid turned up looking for his pet duck.
          None of us really enjoyed eating the thing after that.

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            When I lived in Zurich one of my cats turned up with a rabbit. Now as I’m pretty sure there are no wild rabbits in the city I figured some poor child was going to be very distressed in the morning. Admit was not brave enough to ask around and admit my killer cats deed.

    • Moonroof

      no cats, errors are my own. indeed beware rm -rf…

      • why are the . and / keys next to each other?

        One very tired day, I typed

        rm -rf / instead of .

        After about 30 seconds of not getting the command line back, I suddenly realise I’m in trouble.

        Luckily, the system was a terminal server that was mirrored on another box, so I could rcp all the important stuff like /bin. I rebooted… and it worked.

        PHEW!!!

        • Moonroof

          and we live to fight another day. it’s always the little stuff that gets you. or gets to you…

          • I once had to tell a client I had lost 3 weeks of development work 2 days before going live and the client was a major telco.

            In my sleep deprived state, I copied the backup on top of the new source. (Just to be safe, because I had created so much).

            As a sole developer, and way before “the cloud”, etc, just having a copy on another box was good enough.

            Normally.

            I miraculously re-wrote all of it in 48 hours. Because I had no choice.

            Not the best two days of my life.

      • Greg M

        Not a Linux expert here, but don’t you get the y / n? option in there somewhere? Sounds like a good way to delete an entire drive.

        • LOLz… *nix is for the big boys. When you say you want to delete something, it damn well does it without asking if you want to save the planet.

          • rantykiwi

            Love my sudo too

          • I’ve only just started to use it recently. Been running as root for decades.

            Live by the sword… die by the sword….

          • rantykiwi

            Pretty much my mantra…. as my team know, there are only 2 things which matter:

            1. Don’t eff up.
            2. Own your mistakes.

          • Moonroof

            WO mantra.

          • And when mistakes get made, I don’t care who’s fault it is

            1. fix it, now
            2. post mortem

          • rantykiwi

            I sit on the IT “Post incident review” panel at work. It gives me a great chance to be really ranty, short-tempered and make lives suck. Our staff have learned – it’s easier to “fix it, now” than front me having not done so.

          • EveryWhichWayButLeft

            Incident reviews are always fun… People avoid them like the plague because they think there will be a with hunt, blame game and finger pointing.
            The reality is I’m looking at how we responded, what we could improve on or more importantly, how do we prevent it happening again.
            Like others have said – own your mistakes and do everything in your power to put it right. Who could ask for any more than that?

          • rantykiwi

            All I really ask is “Was it fixed quickly?”. “Has it been documented so it never happens again?” “Did the perpretator own it?” If all the answers are “Yes” then that’s where it ends.

          • The cost of the mistake is the price of education. People that don’t want to learn from the mistake don’t last long around me.

          • Dan

            Like when Microsoft had that clippy thing going on.

            “I think you want to delete all your files, are you sure?”

            YA THINK CLIPPY?

          • Nermal

            I remember my tutor at uni saying “Linux is user friendly. It’s just very very fussy about who it makes friends with”

        • Moonroof

          -f forced, no, it just does it…

          • Greg M

            ahh that explains it. I have only ever come across the -i command.

          • …parameter

            (in other words, stay the _____ away from the OS X command line you noob!)

          • Greg M

            Hehe yeah. I’ve been trying to learn it for a year or so, the attraction is the simplicity and pretty much everything is standalone, but old dogs and new tricks…

          • Moonroof

            install Slackware Linux in a VM, guaranteed to be instructive, a most ancient (but currently maintained) Linux distro that is quite respectful to trad unices

          • Greg M

            Thanks, will give it a go. I have an old Dell poweredge 2800 as the fool about machine, runs ubuntu like a rocket and have solaris 11 on a VM in there as well.

          • rantykiwi

            I’ll see your Slackware and raise you by one CentOS.

          • rangitoto

            CentOS is just Fedora boring edition.

          • great for servers, not for desktops

          • Even after nearly 3 decades I still learn new things.

            The other day I had a log file that was in reverse chronological order. I’m like, there has to be an easy tool to fix that.

            I nearly died laughing when I realised that to see a text file in reverse order, you use

            tac

            because if you want to see it in the foreward order, everyone ;), knows you use

            cat

            I was expecting to have to use sed, or awk or some switch on grep. Of course not. This is *nix, and all the problems have already been solved by others.

          • Moonroof

            I learnt something today.

        • I’ve worked on live systems all my life (even Whaleoil qualifies), and you become really really REALLY good at not stuffing things up.

          • Dan

            Amen to that. It takes way longer to prepare for a server migration than to actually migrate the data. FUn in a live environment.

          • rantykiwi

            And… in a rather good bit of synchronicity I’ve just completed a server migration. Finished 5 minutes after the projected end time, but started 15 minutes after the scheduled start because I wanted to eat. All working and a very happy rantykiwi who will have a heap of happy users tomorrow. I’m betting Friday night’s migration being done by a significantly less able staff member will be a massive clusterwhatsit. I’m thinking my Saturday morning will be busy fixing it, and Monday morning somewhat amusing when i try to get him fired.

    • Isherman

      its when the cat jumps onto the PC box…you know, where the crank up button is that I need a remedy for, keyboard hasn’t been a problem as yet, but its a big chunky gaming PC so it sits just off the ground beside the station….twice this week so far.

  • Ok, ok. I’ve been naughty. But I could help myself. (pic)
    .

    • Nige.

      Up….close-up was on tv1.

    • R&BAvenger

      Loooks like a dick or a (Can’t use that word here) to me. ;-)

  • We operate a help desk staffed by readers. The reason is that Disqus makes it frustrating to unblock people because if the poor tools, and as such, people need to provide some information.

    Turns out that some people don’t have the patience to help themselves. (pic)
    .

    • XCIA

      People need to learn to chill, just like this little fellow ;-)

      • isn’t it amazing how NON-hostile we actually are? (Shhhh, don’t let anyone know, I need the fear to be out there)

        • Nige.

          Makes you feel like a big monkey ay

          • That reminds me Nige, next time, please suggest I shut down the thread. That’s the sort of advice I expect from you.

          • Nige.

            Advice :)

            SEE THAT PEOPLE!!!!

            IVE BEEN PROMOTED TO ADVISER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • I’ve even doubled your pay to reflect the increase in responsibility.

          • Nige.

            You won’t regret this sir.

          • Spiker

            You know this means no more “hold my beer and watch this”? Responsibility isn’t really that great.

          • Mark

            Part of my Top Secret job description,is “Responsible Adult” I only do it when I am getting paid for it!

          • hookerphil

            2 pies

          • XCIA

            And a drink…….

          • Isherman

            Wow, flashback right there!

          • XCIA

            I hate to think what they were comprised of back then, there being no requirement to list the ingredients.

          • Isherman

            We didn’t care particularly, and strangely they didn’t make us obese either and we’re sure there was no sugar in them:)

          • Chris EM

            Too cool. I’d forgotten about them. The cork thing made quite a good projectile when you jumped on the empty spaceman.

          • dumbshit

            Double nothing=???????

          • Mark

            When you get promoted to Envoy,let me know I’ll carry your bags.

        • Huia

          But, but, but, I thought this was a hate blog.

        • Isherman

          We might be thankful for that, we, being the we who should well know better than to create needless work with low cal comments that some poor overworked soul needs to clean up…all with a smile we trust:)

          • Oh, there is no doubt that some make the mistake of taking things personally, and then in turn go to town and make it personal to me as well. Then it gets ugly. But in general, the times that happens in a year only needs one hand to count… them.. on. something…. the grammar feels bad.

          • Nige.

            Well someone gets it.

            We take no pleasure removing stuff.

            Mostly.

          • Spiker

            Today I googled how to remove ones own post, for those occasions when you realise that it should have never been made in the first place. Hopefully I won’t need to use it..

          • Nige.

            Was that you with “test” today?

            I thought “cripes, someone’s got a new computer or something”

          • Spiker

            yeah.. just seeing if it worked. I never knew that little drop down menu was there.

          • Mark

            Well well,that is handy,I had to get Pete to clean up my last booboo! Oh & thanks to your hint I didn’t even have to use Google LOL.

    • EveryWhichWayButLeft

      Heh! Looks like my handwriting.
      Did I mention my alter-ego is a BOFH?

    • Dave

      Congrats to the help desk, it’s pretty simple to follow.

    • R&BAvenger

      Having followed these instructions twice before, if you don’t have the patience to do so then you probably need to grow a little to belong her, otherwise you just don’t belong.
      Cheers to the Helpdesk staff. :-)

  • Huia

    Hi Honey’s I’m home.
    Been wandering around Northland for a couple of weeks and astounded at how good the roads were after Winnies gnashing of teeth and promises to fix the roading. Wonderful roads, better than ours on the Coromandel.
    Perfect weather and stunning country. No tv, computer or radio, just chilled and wandered.
    Gave thanks every day for being born in NZ, what a beautiful part of the world we live in.
    Came back to Angry Little Andy pounding the negative drum, John Key upping the quota of illegal immigrants ( I mean refugees).
    Think I will head off again, don’t need this turpsickery from idiots.
    I guess its already been done but May the 4th be with you all.

    • Greg M

      Welcome home Huia. P.S. You’re late, where’s ya note ?

      • Huia

        I’ve been too relaxed to write anything Greg. Hope all well with you.

        • I guess it answers the question “where do people that live in Coro go to get away from it all?”

          madness.

          • Huia

            It was the South Island awhile ago, just beautiful. We are so darned lucky in this country.

          • Isherman

            Would have thought so, but it very much seems that depends on who you ask…incredible really.

          • Nige.

            Hey I know. I get to actually live down here.

          • hookerphil

            Agreed – just went for a two day trip around, yesterday at Mt Cook, looks great, as usual. Autumn colours are just beautiful at the moment all around this way.

          • SHUDDDUP!

          • rantykiwi

            When are you sending the pie parcel to us poor North Islanders?

          • Nige.

            I was going to send a bunch to Pete to distribute but we decided that might not be a good idea.

            I tell you what though….it is so hard to go past these pie places. The standard in this town is incredible. Caft beer and craft pies.

            Anyone want a pub and pie tour???

          • HR

            Yep. If you book them, they will come…..

          • KGB

            Christchurch :)
            Just booked tickets to see my grand baby. I can’t wait to smell him, hug him, and ruin him. About 28 sleeps away.
            Mr KGB will see CC post EQ which is a must.
            I will see my BFF (are you allowed to say that after 50), and give her XCIA’s snot egg separator for her 60th.
            Today has been a magic day.
            Went fishing, I never do fishing. I caught 4 of our 13 snapper, in the dark, where gigantic sharks circle. Where I can’t control anything, and where I could not tread before because it’s a SMOKE FREE boat. ?

          • Greg M

            We may be on the same flight, 28 sleeps from now I’m off down there on leg 1 of the escape as well.

          • KGB

            Tauranga – CC return $75 bucks x 2, it like shopping at the Warehouse :)

          • Mark

            I’m heading that way twice in the next 29 days y’all may have timed it right as it seems I have the ability to stop earthquakes,even if I actually transit South LOL.

          • Greg M

            If you are anywhere near Revvies pub at the time flick us a text mate. Always good for a gargle or two and a singalong and general idiot behaviour there. A home away from home that place.

          • hookerphil

            Revvies Pub?

          • Greg M
          • rantykiwi

            I’d settle for the Twisted Hop in Woolston. Good (but pricy food) and a great lot of beers.

          • Roland

            Revvies was to ‘flash’ when l was travelling, we had to stay at ‘The Duke’

          • My heart aches. How can I do that AND still be with WO? I can’t figure it out right now.

          • KGB

            We are looking for house sitters? One very dog-like cat to endure. Great broadband speed?

          • Unless your house is in West Coast back country, that’s not going to help. I’m not jealous of him going on a trip, I’m jealous of him going off-grid!

          • Nige.

            So much positivity in your comment. Good on you. That’s fantastic.

          • KGB

            Day 5 – I have had some issues.
            I confess to smoking “Honeyrose” nicotine free, tobacco free, herbal cigarettes, $8 a pack, when put in life changing situations. They suck, but keep others safe.
            I have never had to apologise so much in my life!!!

          • rantykiwi

            Chch is well on the post-quake mend (I spent last weekend there). Still munted, but much improved.

          • KGB

            I was last there in Nobember. It amazes me how much has been achieved on one hand, and so little on the other.
            That is what people don’t get! To achieve so much rebuild, they must delay demolition.

          • R&BAvenger

            You will enjoy the changes since then. More space cleared on Manchester Street, the east side from Gloucester through to Lichfield is completely clear now.
            Bridge of Remembrance is open to the public again and many buildings under construction in the CBD are more advanced.
            Also you’ll notice changes at Memorial Ave/Russley Rd intersection when leaving the airport.

    • Hard1

      Andy was promoted to Corporal in Iraq. He still has the shirt to prove it. That’s all you’ve missed. Oh and Hilary keeps staring into people’s eyes waiting for words to appear. Some kind of PTSD, apparently.

    • KGB

      I often worry when commemtors disappear.
      Pete sometimes wonders where George is.
      I have told Mr KGB if anything ever happens to me, he must find a kid to show him how to let you all know.
      It wasn’t Pete’s fault !!!

      • hookerphil

        Yes, so agree. We all need to educate somebody to our wishes, surely we do not have to put it in our will.

        • Nige.

          “Here lays Nigel. Nige to those who knew him best. 10,000 comments, 30,000 upvotes”

          • KGB

            Show off ?

          • hookerphil

            Old will – 12,000 comments 31,000 upvotes – pay the lawyers some more money for the update.

    • Bluemanning

      We just did a Northland trip, got back last night. Met beaut people saw terrific country, warm enough to swim at beaches ate plenty of fish (and chips). Can’t beat this country.

    • Clydesmum

      I live in Northland and love it, have fantastic views from my work room and don’t want to live anywhere else. We go off once a year to other places but can’t wait to come home.

  • herewego

    Same day Weldon goes we have the “Media Party” party and then (as I understand it) nudity on the 7pm slot

    Really – are the inmates now running the MediaWorks asylum?

    • They were, they are, and they think they will, but they won’t.

      Incidentally, that genitalia thing was deliberate and a clear message.

      • Dave

        And the beautiful thing is the lovies think they have won, and it’s back to the old ways. I almost pity them when the next CEO comes in and smashes their cosy little empires.

        The old saying, better they devil they knew.

        • Isherman

          Let them fiddle while Rome burns if they will.

        • sarahmw

          Sad thing is they are delusional in their importance. The photo on the front page of The Press this morning shows what type of people they are. No.class quite common and looking pleased with themselves. Luvvies you cue read news! Media Works don’t take her back. Unprofessional all of them.

      • Greg M

        Yes it was. The journalists and producers are under the illusion they control the business. They are about to enter a short and sharp learning curve.

  • Isherman

    Some tumbleweed blog has a little nightly current affairs show, apparently with the best political panels on air in NZ, anyway, I’ve just put myself through tonight’s one, well 5 minutes of it so far anyway with the delightful Keith Locke speaking first. The topic was Palestine, and I would like to respond to a statement that Keith made, with a question to him.
    His statement, was that Zionism, or the Zionist project, by virtue of seeking to establish a ‘Jewish’ homeland ( Jewish in an ethnic sense ) is by definition racist.
    So I would like to ask him, when, following his own logic that a state being defined by ethnic terms is racist, he will similarly denounce the following states, whose official name makes reference to their ethnic identity, as being racist. Those states are:
    The Arab Republic of Egypt.
    The Syrian Arab Republic
    The United Arab Emirates

    I realise I will be waiting quite a while for a response of course.

    • EveryWhichWayButLeft

      And if you use ‘racist’ in the loosest possible way (like a lefty), what about:
      – Islamic Republic of Afghanistan
      – Islamic Republic of the Gambia
      – Islamic Republic of Iran
      – Islamic Republic of Mauritania
      – Islamic Republic of Pakistan

      • Isherman

        Similarly bigoted by a similar logic, just in a religious rather than a specifically ethnic sense.

  • KGB

    A reflexion on my day (pic)

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