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  • Carl

  • Nechtan

    Telephone cable cut (again) Interesting catching up on all the happenings
    Today’s rock history

    Born today 1941 Eric Burdon lead singer with The Animals and later War.

    Born today in 1947 Butch Trucks (born Claude Hudson Trucks) drummer with The Allman Brothers.

    Today in 1963 The Beatles went to number 1 on the UK album charts with their debut album “Please Please Me” (it would stay at number 1 for 30 weeks).

    Died today in 1981 Bob Marley of a brain tumor at the age of 36.

    Died today in 2003 Noel Redding bass player with The Jimi Hendrix Experience died from complications of cirrhosis of the liver aged 57.

    Died today in 2014 Ed Gagliardi original bass player with Foreigner.

    • Michelle

      good to have you back l missed my daily fix of music

  • George

    I firmly believe that this Labour opposition has become the most ineffectual, clueless and directionless political force in the history of New Zealand politics. The opposition is, in fact, supposed to be a Government in waiting. It has never been “if” but “when” oppositions will be returned to govern. It has played out that way for over a century. The merits, strengths and weaknesses of each administration is cast in historical stone, but the revolving door continues to turn and, in general, each administration has served us adequately, with opinions being subjected to political persuasion. When, in the past, a socialist administration was elected to govern, I was not happy but it was something I could tolerate. But this is the first time that the opposition scares me.

    The reason they scare me is not through fear of socialist legislation, it is because almost all of this group of personnel are totally out of their depth. They may well have an assortment of degrees and evidence of public service but they live in a world of fantasy. Each and every time they try to make political capital they are caught totally unprepared, unreasearched and, quite frankly wrong. They make up policy without understanding the consequences and have this insane belief that everything that is presented by National is bad. They continue to tell us the country is totally stuffed with unemployment out of control, wide spread poverty which grows by the day, the economy is floundering, the health system is collapsing, immigrating is out of control, our prisons are in chaos, the education system is failing, our exports are struggling and now we are a corrupt money laundering tax haven for John Key’s mates.

    See what I mean. They haven’t got a clue. They are unfit and unable to govern. Would you employ any of them? Outside the Public Service they would qualify as unemployable. Harsh, but sadly true. They have all been promoted to a level above their competence with the exception of Andrew Little. Unfortunately for Andrew, there has to be evidence that he possesses some competence before he can be promoted above it, but I’m buggered if I can find it.

    • Cadwallader

      That’s precisely the way they are yet they appear to be descending further. It is one thing to not be able to recognise the good things about this country but it is far worse to sidle up to a seditious clown like Hager to conduct a pointless nasty smear campaign. I really see no way back for Labour after this Angry reign.

      • Michelle

        l hope they keep going down because with Winnie and them in power is just not something worth thinking about

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      “in general, each administration has served us adequately”

      For the most part and perhaps selfishly,as my own personal life did not actually change much depending on which party was in power for the most part I accepted it as part of life and people want change.

      However for once I am also scared that they might somehow get in (or at least have some sort of say in government) as the damage they could do in three years I’m not sure could be undone in my lifetime.

    • Steve (North Shore)

      Labour is a festering sore George. Those at the top are backstabing for power, and the power is nothing. Those at the bottom are trying to hold the ‘List’ nomination.
      The danger is those defecting from Labour will go Green because they all have KDS.

    • cows4me

      “Would you employ them”, for what George ? I guess they might be useful as scarecrows, the neighbors chicory got hammer by Canadian geese this year , there could be an opening there.

      • Michelle

        Effluent spreaders is about all they are qualified to do

        • cows4me

          Probably more like effluent makers Michelle. I hate with a passion having to bow to laws passed by useless no hoping tits that no one has elected telling us how it shall be.

          • Michelle

            and they live on another planet
            have no idea about farming straight out of Uni and never been on a farm and they have power over what we do

          • cows4me

            Yes dead right, they are backed up by law ( H&S ), regional councils. We are living under a system that does not reflect freedom nor democracy and true free enterprise is under attack, thanks National, you scumbags.

    • Elmwood

      Well said. I have an Irish builder working for me at the moment. He is astounded at how much the Government is being criticised, he sees New Zealsnd as incredibly well run. You ought to go to Ireland he tells me, to see how f—-d up it is by their Government.

    • Teeps

      100% agree George. Very well articulated. Labour and its entire movement are caught in a time-warp… The world has moved on to the digital age and that whole movement is stuck in the 60s and 70s. Unions are dead. Workers in NZ generally get a fair deal and there are very few cases of workers being taken advantage of in this day and age. The left now stand for criminals, minorities, the so called poverty generation and generally anything negative. We as New Zealanders are positive by our very nature. We have a can do, number 8 wire mentality…we aspire to be wealthy. We want to be great and we work hard to do it. Middle New Zealanders want to be successful and generally see the glass as half full. We don’t listen to negativity, we don’t like being played for fools and we can’t spot a liar a mile off. The left lie to us – dirty politics, panama, the moment of truth etc… They are the people who cut down the tall poppies and want us to all be miserable equally. This is why they are dying. They are not us. They don’t represent who we are as people. And we will never vote for them. Which is why they will never find their missing 1.1 million voters…

    • localnews

      They may seem hopeless but they do have quite a list of achievements this term. I wonder if they are the most successful opposition ever. We are laughing about the Panama papers, but I expect that legislation will be passed amending trust law. Everything they campaign on John key rolls over on. They have gained more than national voters have this term. Just my interpretation….

  • Nige.

    STAG answered last nights question with:

    “principle goes”

    What was your school principal like at school?

    • Jude

      I can honestly say the only time I saw our school principal was at school assembly!
      He seemed nice enough, I must have been a goody two shoes because I never got to see inside his office:)

    • Ross

      I feel extremely fortunate to have had him as my school head. He was the catalyst to my old school becoming one of the best in the country today. Of course, he was also the brother of Don McKinnon (ex deputy PM).

    • STAG

      The one I remember best was boarding school, live on site staff. All of them very good and dedicated. Even when he was caning me, I knew I deserved it.

    • Isherman

      The Principal was fine, it was his deputy that you had to worry about. He was only too happy to mete out a caning for not much at all. The kicker was that he had a bucket with about a dozen or so different ones in it, and you had to choose one. Nasty little man by the name of Fisher…no relation I suspect.

      • STAG

        We had a Fisher, he was a drunk not a caner.

        • Isherman

          Our was the incumbent Latin teacher, and would take Maths and English as needed. Very intelligent, articulate and by all accounts a good teacher, probably on account that one was too scared to not pay proper attention, but he was not a well humoured man.

    • Union Jack

      He was a dirty grub who had a fondness for pubescent Maori boys and soon after leaving my school in hurried circumstances ended up in court after a stint at another school but somehow got off the charges before leaving for Australia.

    • Eiselmann

      My primary school principal was a man who went with the least line of resistance. He was near retirement when I was there and I think he had given up.

      My intermeidate school teacher , turned out to be an early fore runner of many of the registered teachers that appear before judges….

      And my first high school teacher, was a rugby fanatic, its fair to say being in the first 15 or 2nd 15 was a passport to a sweet stress free life at school ,while other team sports were either banned or severely restricted

    • Steve (North Shore)

      Had the name ‘Batman’ (cape thingy) been in his office many times for standing up to the socialist prefects. Yep, got the cane, prefects had to meet me in life after we all left school. They all vote Labour/Greens now, and still run away from me

    • Michelle

      High school principal was one of the wife swappers club in town
      Well known about school
      Had a Maori principal at small school and he was very severe on Maori students he gave one girls the strap over the hand for not getting her spelling right, she was a lovely girl and l was shocked at his behaviour

    • cows4me

      Which one ? We drove most mad.

    • Dave

      Primary School, the principal disappeared one year, so did my new female teacher, all we were told is she left to have a baby. I don’t think he was a very principled Principal.

    • KatB

      Our Primary School Headmaster was a keen horse racing follower. Whoever was on bought school lunch pickup would also be asked to buy a copy of Best Bets for him.

  • Jude

    I missed my Whaleoil anniversary by 2 days:)
    9 May 2013 I signed up for a disqus account, for the sole purpose of commenting on Whaleoil.
    I am fairly certain I was a reader for awhile before I got the courage up to comment.
    Over the three years I have come to know and respect so many of the commenters.
    I have felt safe enough to meet in person and friend on Facebook.
    The people here are pretty special people in my opinion.

    • Nige.

      “my god. when WAS this? recently? THIS LAST ELECTION? atleats theres time for maturity. He needs some serious coaching. I dont see a political party leader there.”

      2nd Dec 2011 That was my first comment under this account. I had commented earlier.

      • Dave

        so, are any of the first commentors, are still here? . I can always recall a few very hardcore lefties, wont name them though.

        • cows4me

          Been around a while Dave, I think moderation has dealt to hard core lefties but in some ways it’s a shame.

          • Nige.

            id look up yours but….. oh i just have to. Hang on….

            no. i just cant.

            gee you can swear like a farmer, cant you!

          • cows4me

            Of course builders are paragons of virtue and polite conversation, haha

        • Nige.
          • Dave

            To the best of my knowledge, I have only had one account Nige, and joined in about 2008 or 2009.

        • Greg M

          Oh gawd, I’ve been here since about 2010 I think.

          • Nige.
          • Greg M

            Oh man, moderation please. :-) That was account number two, deleted the first one accidentally after a night on the turps.

          • Nige.

            yeah i thought so. :{(

          • cows4me

            How are your spuds Greg ? :-)

          • Greg M

            Yeah some of the comments from back then are fairly cringeworthy. Oh well never mind.

          • cows4me

            I’m picking some these days ain’t much better, I’m including myself here. Oh well never mind.

    • Nige.
    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      Like you I’m only on disqus so I can comment. Started reading just before the last election, Dirty Politics got me here, and lurked for a bit before I got courage to comment – 20 Jul 2015 I joined but that was because one could only uptick if one joined. Not sure when I first opened my mouth after that but it took a while I think.
      Am most grateful to Hager and the media as if there hadn’t been all that fuss I would not be here and being better informed about what is going on.
      Plus I love the wry humour of some of the commentators.

    • Wasapilot

      Happy anniversary Jude ?

    • jcpry

      I beat you by a day. May 8th 2013. A long time lurker before plucking up the courage to comment. It was very robust debate and you needed to be prepared to get a very ribald response. No place for the faint hearted.

    • PhantomsDoc

      Joined Nov 12, 2011

      Actually, Goff has just handed this to National on a plate as an
      election issue for the next couple of weeks and he now can’t say all is
      fine with MMP and we shouldn’t be looking at changing it.

      If I was JK I’d be proposing my own agenda for change using Goff and the lefts
      manipulation in the past and their now hypocritical stance of it needing
      to be changed as a good reason to vote for change in the referendum.

  • Misfit

    So the left and media party are appalled that an international gambling fugitive who has links to trusts all over the world has been mentioned as having links to a NZ trust yet are more than happy to have another international fugitive , a certain obese German thief of intellectual property actually living here, then that is somehow ok with them, no probs at all as he hates John Key and his money has a use to them……Hypocrites of mammoth proportions. My head hurts

    • biscuit barrel

      I was sure Dotcom name would pop up in Panama papers, but since he has so many names it could be anyone.

  • Jude

    again, I was surprised at the variety of answers that came out from this one:)
    refresh

    • Goldie

      has to be 1

      • Gaharis

        Yes 1 if you do the calculation in the correct order.

        • Goldie

          Correct and ‘proper’ order :)

    • Brent

      I came up with 4

    • Jude

      I want to see what answers our Whaleoilers come up with:)

      • XCIA

        Here’s one answer ;-)

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      I’m going for a 3, but then again I got 19% in maths in the 4th form AND that was a scaled up mark (when the still did things like that, lol)

    • phronesis

      nine

    • KGB

      I get 4

    • Isherman

      1.

    • Curly1952

      Gotta be 3

      • Isherman

        try it this way: 9-3 / 1/3 + 1

        • Woody

          If you do the maths that way, it is 19. I can also get 4 and 1, need to consult some maths theory but I think the answer is 1

          • Isherman

            Missed brackets on the grouping, but spelt out:
            9-3 ÷ (1/3) +1
            = 9-9 +1
            =0+1
            =1

    • Lux

      I get 4

      • KGB

        We are super special but not unique.

    • Wasapilot

      One Jude.

    • JEL51

      BEDMAS =9

      • KGB

        Trouble maker ?

        • JEL51

          Shhh, I have the smart one back from Perth this week. I can’t get beyond 2+2 ;)

    • Jude

      This went viral in Japan after a study found 60% of 20 somethings could get the correct answer, down from 90% in the 1980s!
      The correct answer is 1!
      do the division bit first.
      3divided by 1/3 is the same as 3*3/1=9
      9-9+1=1

    • 1.
      3 / (1 / 3) – 9 + 1 = 1

    • Rosco

      haha – made my head spin LOL – had to use a spreadsheet to make sure I was right! For those having trouble – here’s a lovely little year 2 website with the rules!
      http://www.mathgoodies.com/lessons/vol7/order_operations.html

    • Jude

      The range of answers in the facebook comments went from, 1 ,7, 3, 9 19

      • KGB

        Hey Jude … You missed 4 !
        (KGB failing at maths since 1962)

        • Jude

          That makes you super special and unique lol:)

          • Cadwallader

            He may not make it with maths but he’s spot on with the song titles…even after a Hard Day’s Night.

    • Michelle

      sorry but my eyes glaze over as it was not something l was any good at school but our kids are really good at this and would be able to answer it in no time so l must have done something right

    • Cadwallader

      I am not good at maths but I think the answer is chaos.

      Here’s how: Clark-Goff divided by Shearer over Cunnliffe + Angry=Chaos.

      • Wasapilot

        Comment of the year ?

      • Dave

        Shearer over Cunliffe, not a pretty thought. Sounds like a breeding program for livestock.

        • Cadwallader

          Shearer won’t be able to get physical with Cunnliffe as the wetsuit he wears in reverse will be too difficult to remove. “I am sorry for wearing my wetsuit the wrong way around.”

          • Kath Rutherford

            Sorry for being a man sprung to mind

        • Brian Dingwall

          For us bridge players it’s a play we call throwing a loser on a loser……

    • Pluto

      If you divide by a third you multiply by 3, So 19.

      • Jude

        That was one of the answers given but in fact the acknowledged correct answer is one?

    • rangitoto

      9 as division has the highest priority. Whoops I mean 1. 3 divided by a third = 9. So 9 – 9 + 1

      • Jude

        3divided by a third is 9. Lots of people trip up and get 1 for that bit.

        • rangitoto

          Yep. Already corrected my answer ;)

    • cows4me

      5 but my teachers told me I was thick as.

      • Jude

        you are another unique mathematician:)

        • cows4me

          No, lets be honest, I’m thick as.

          • Dave

            Just think of it this way, your teachers are probably retired in the same home they started out in……… you own a farm – nothing thick about that achievement!

          • cows4me

            Yep you’re right Dave. I’ve have a lot of respect for some of my teachers they were very nice people. When I went to school most of my friends came from farms and education was probably not respected as it should have been. We were more interested in working. I do regret not studying harder but it is what it is.

          • Dave

            Took a while to find it, but here you go……. On Kerry Packer……

            His father apparently thought little of his son’s abilities, once cruelly describing him as “the family idiot”, although Kerry subsequently steered PBL to heights far beyond anything his father or brother achieved.

          • Nige.

            Kerry packers funeral was incredible.

          • Dave

            He had a private funeral on the family farm near Scone, and was buried next to the Polo fields. He had a state memorial service though.

          • biscuit barrel

            The apple never lands far from the tree.

    • Justme

      1 – BODMAS

    • RockinBob625

      One.

      BEDMAS is all I can add

    • Greg M

      42. Again. I give up.

      • Put that bottle down

  • JEL51

    So, what was JK asking? “…on Saturday Night….”
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/speaker-kicks-john-key-out-of-the-house/
    Just luv it when he has the upper hand.

    • Michelle

      He was on fire but reading the Media party take on it, batting for the left and slanting it like it was something bad when JK was wiping the floor with the left again!
      First l have heard about Gpeas and the other lot not knowing about these trusts and saying they don’t own them aided by the Media party making sure that is what we are supposed to think
      Had JK’s name come up, there must be more than one JK in the world and if they had a trust then this would not wash with the Media party but it is alright for the left

      No apology needed from JK but a big one from the other side including Media party

  • XCIA

    I sincerely hope Karma is front and centre if or when the MSM merger goes ahead. I hope it visits all those supposed “journalists” who have taken delight blagging the PM in the hope that the pressure would see him resign.

    • Woody

      I think Corin Dann may be trying to protect his short term job prospects, I have heard him make some reasonable observations.

      • Kitschinsync

        Not convinced about that, just a few nights ago he was banging on and on about perception being the problem JK faces..the same old tiring strategy of political reporters creating the perception and then telling us all “its a perception issue the JK faces.That poor excuse for a reporter Katie Bradford was doing the same thing not so long ago.

        So over their lame reports, do they really not understand that we see right through their agenda?.

        • Woody

          I stand to be corrected but I thought that was just before the rumour mill suggested mergers.

          • Kitschinsync

            You are right, it was late last week I heard him taking this angle, so is it possible for a reporter to re invent their political bias in less than a week?. I guess if you have to pay the mortgage and have sold your soul to employers intent on watching the world burn then you do what it takes to survive.

          • Woody

            I have always thought he was an idiot but I never thought he was stupid so I guess a quick reinvention would be a good self serving tactic.

          • Carl

            TV 1 would not be part of the merger as they are not part of either of those firms. Sadly we pay their wages as being the tax payer.

          • Kitschinsync

            Except to say there may be a flood of potential rivals entering the jobs market soon.

          • Kitschinsync

            And this got me thinking..has the media party seen the vacuum in opposition and decided to take on the role?.

            Thing is that the Nats powerhouse are not being deeply challenged by a bunch of loser minor parties.

            By far the biggest challenge JK and his team face is squaring up against a biased MSM daily.

            Having watched a few of the house debates recently you can clearly see there’s no real challenge for authority from the minor parties.They are weak and have weak leadership.

            edit for context.

          • Woody

            Good point which I missed in my rush to find good in someone (my good deed for the day).

          • Ross

            Watch one news last night if you want a more recent comparison. Opening story was property stats from Land Information and CD towing Twyfords line and adding his own view on the relevance and integrity of the stats. Sorry Corin I don’t want your opinion.

        • Dave

          KB will be okay, I believe her man has a not so secret secret trust to help matters out. And, he has a lot of time on his hands.

          • Kitschinsync

            Yeah I suspected he might have some trust issues and as a result has a bit more free time.

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      Not to forget the attacks on his children.

      • Michelle

        That l cannot stand chasing his kids around
        Imagine the noise if it was their kids being harassed by the MSM

    • Michelle

      If this goes ahead l can see them backstabbing and climbing over one another to keep their jobs
      Could be entertaining

      • XCIA

        Oh yes! There will be beaucoup cutting of lunches as it comes down to the wire.

        • Michelle

          Karma one hopes and they get taken down a peg or two and get into the real world
          Still all be JK’s fault

      • Aucky

        Yes, the old ‘two persons, one chair’ syndrome is due to hit with a vengeance.

  • Woody

    I know we have mostly had it up to here (gestures at neck) with the Panama branded toilet paper but I am finding it impossible to reconcile the fact that everything in there is the truth and points to widespread skulduggery in New Zealand, particularly by anyone who John Key may have met as a 5 year old – Oh, except anyone that we the righteous left may have connections to, in that case, it is incorrect and meaningless information which is out of date anyway so John Key should be put in stocks and pelted with rotten eggs and tomatoes until he apologizes for even thinking to mention them.

    It is either correct data or rubbish data, not both at the same time, but I guess my brain is not wired left so I wouldn’t understand.

    • Isherman

      Wouldn’t recommend trying to think like a lefty, but if you do we’ll give you five minutes…if we don’t hear back in that time we’ll have to send someone in.:)

      • Woody

        Thanks for having my back.

    • Sailor Sam

      One thing says it all – “Elvis impersonator”.

  • Papillon

    God help us Aucklanders. Looks like we’re up for another robbing. Today our tragic excuse for a Mayor floats another 2.5% rates rise and that they are seriously re-looking at motorway tolls. I don’t mind so much paying for tolls on new roads, but absolutely abhor paying for roads our rates have already paid for. Worse still Goff has confirmed he agrees with the tolls, and given that sadly he will likely be Mayor, due to the chaotic contenders on the right, our wallets are in for a hiding.

    Seriously, is their plan to fix the transport situation really just to have us all leave as the AA survey suggests? Rest of NZ, get ready for more Auckland refugees.

    • Woody

      From the outside looking in, it seems that every decision around transport is designed to justify Len’s train set and nothing else matters to him.

      • Papillon

        Yep, his train set and keeping the benefactors of his secret trust happy.

      • sheppy

        And as a deliberate result of that the traffic gets worse every day as all funds are diverted to pay for the ,useless to most, underground railway.

    • Asian_driver

      Cashed up refugees, Palmerston North is nice

      • Graham Pilgrim

        No it’s not. Believe me.

        • Dave

          Which is precisely why the refugees might find it so nice :)

        • Miss McGerkinshaw

          Get enough and there may be the tipping point where they improve it.

      • Aucky

        What day will summer take place this year?

        • Dave

          It wont be this year, its only the year prior to a leap year.

        • Michelle

          you expect a WHOLE day?

      • Miss Phit

        We could rename it New Ponsonby if it helps. Or Remuera Sth?

    • Isherman

      Simon Bridges is the one who needs the blowtorch applied to the feet over this, because it requires legislation to be changed, so Goff can say all he likes, but I’ll not be happy if the gummint cave on this…not happy at all.

    • Kevin

      I saw him on TV3 and it was like he was a father fed up with his misbehaving kids (us Aucklanders). This has to be his version of a scorched earth policy.

      • sheppy

        You will work where he says, when the timetable says, and not complain. The car hasn’t been invented, and the future is an 18th century train comrade!

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      Whilst I’m happy to have left Auckland and was also always moaning about the rates when I was there, when looking for property elsewhere I was amazed to find that in the the areas I looked in (Waikato and Taranaki) the rates were higher. In the Naki now and OK I don’t pay for water or rubbish (except green waste) but as I live alone ‘user pays’ actually worked for me in those areas.

      • Moonroof

        Strangely enough, the user-pays bin bags work fine for me in the Auck, Just me here, and most waste gets composted or out to recycling. Looking around on collection day, I wonder how some households manage to put out 4-5 bags a week…

    • Hard1

      As the motorway empties out every street in the city will jam up. They just don’t understand that public transport suits very few people, very few people cycle and time wasted is money lost. Being late for work is not an option. Early bird parking is stupid. And roads are the only way to travel. Fullstop.

    • Orange

      NONE of the increases so far in the whole history of the super city have gone towards the trainset expansion. Ultimately the rates increases will have to be repeated just for the trainset. Len was quite open about this in previous years. They will have to be 2.5% per year for 5 years on top of inflation to have a show of paying for it. That’s my guess. I’m not an accountant, it’s just so much money needed…

      • cows4me

        Time you poor buggers get your train set no one will be able to afford to use it.

    • OT Richter

      2.5% will be the average, and they are still adjusting the business-to-residential ratio (in favour of business), so residential rises will be in the order of 6-10% again.

  • Union Jack

    Listeners slam inappropriate George FM interview with bachelorette Naz
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/79876122/listeners-slam-inappropriate-george-fm-interview-with-bachelorette-naz
    Watching this clip it ticks all the boxes really,crass,vulgar and all the other labels.
    However for listeners to be offended just amazes me when the interviewer is a known shock jock and the subject is the bachelorette who has made no secret about her sexual conquest and fake boobs in public.
    What did listeners expect to hear,a conversation about a new recipe for scones?.
    If you listen and follow this trash then this is what you get really.

  • Nige.

    If James Shaw had have kept his mouth shut only a fraction of the country would know about Mojo Mathers dirty secret.

    • KGB

      Not that her dirty secret is a foreign trust. It’s that she doesn’t realise England is not a Suburb in Wellington.
      (Or wherever Grandma’s house is)

      • Woody

        Her other dirty secret is of course that after some 5 years at the public trough, she still has no idea of how the place works. She does of course make her co-leaders look good and by comparison, Angry comes over as positively brilliant.

        • Miss McGerkinshaw

          Yes I was positively amazed at how she had no idea. Well first time I watched question time I will admit. Anyway think members should learn the rules and if they don’t know them – tough!! They don’t get to do/say whatever. Easy.

  • Alan Beresford B’Stard

    Forget the Panama Papers, the real BREAKING NEWS: it’s all over, the bachelor has broken up with the bachelorette.

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      Oh dear, how devastating.
      Well I suppose they got their 15+ minutes of fame which is all that matters?

    • Dave

      And who promotes the Bachelor Circus, oh yes, the MEDIA. so once again, its the Media at fault.

      • Sailor Sam

        You are saying that for once it is not John Key’s fault?

    • F T Bear

      It still amazes me how seemingly intelligent women subject themselves to this garbage

      • Hard1

        It gives them something to talk and talk and talk about.
        Real Housewives Of NZ coming soon will be totally cringeworthy and therefore very popular with those who are still teething.

        • Simo

          Will have the parental lock on it in our house…..absolute crap masquerading as fertiliser

      • cows4me

        Here in lies a basic falsity, you assume woman are intelligent, they are no better than the other side.

      • Jude

        The intelligent ones don’t:)

      • Miss McGerkinshaw

        I think the operative word here is ‘seemingly’. They may ‘seem’ intelligent but …

    • Justme

      I was betting on the news in 8 months time that Naz was pregnant.

      • Miss McGerkinshaw

        Could still be?!

    • Bryan

      well i hope she kept that expensive ring which was given as winner so as I see it she would be entitled to keep it and stuff him . oh yea we just had a 4.7 quake or was that his mother putting her boot up his backside.

  • Left Right Out

    I know I’m a political novice. I only really took any real notice when Dirty Politics hit the news. But it is from this point that I have been dumbfounded.

    Since just before the election I have bore witness to 3 scandalous attacks on National by various people, but there was a common denominator…. MSM.

    Dirty Politics
    The Moment of Truth
    Panama Papers

    All 3 times we were told this is extremely serious and it would show how we had be taken for a ride by National. All 3 times it turned out to be a flop, nothing, yet the MSM the brought this too us minute by minute has never been called out.

    If it wasn’t for here and a couple of other blogs it would all just be conveniently pushed under the rug.

    During this period, time and time again, The left have laid claims of crisis all over the place, tried every tactic you can think of to try and prove their own points, yet time and time again they have been shot down with facts…. yet the media keeps returning to them

    When is someone in the media going to stand up and be honest with themselves and call the MSM and left out???

    Sorry, but I guess this is why politics is so frustrating……

    • XCIA

      As the Aussies have the monopoly on our MSM, you could be forgiven for thinking that perhaps the word came down from on high to disrupt our very stable political scene and drag it down to the level of the Aussie one. Who knows, but one thing I do know is that you just can’t trust them.

    • sheppy

      I suspect they’ll never be called out, although when their companies go bust due to no consumers, and no advertising revenue you can guarantee it will be always someone else’s fault!

    • Goldie

      Like you a political novice (and therefore don’t feel knowledgeable enough to take part in the political discussions). Previously, I had no interest in politics at all (which quite frankly is understandable). But on discovering WO, I have learned a lot about what goes on behind the scenes, which makes it at least somewhat interesting.I would guess there are a lot of people like myself out there who are reasonably intelligent, but politically ignorant. They may very well be the ‘missing million’.

      • Kiwiracer

        There is no such thing as Dirty Politics, it is just politics. . . .
        The PM had nothing to apologise for today either. . . . .

      • Nige.

        Political novice.

        Sometimes I long for the days when I didn’t have a clue about all this stuff. Ignorance they say is bliss.

        Then I remember one if Cams best sayings: “it’s the best game in town.”

        It really is.

        • GoingRight

          Hubby and I really enjoy any political programmes and that is also why we love reading WO apart from it being full of clever postings full of wit by the whale-oilers. Today in Parliament John Key was brilliant, and the cheeky grin on his face as he left the chamber was a classic.

        • Goldie

          I’m certainly warming to it, but the sense of frustration also increases, when you see the more coherent and sensible voices being drowned out by the lies, innuendo, and misinformation that usually gets front pages.

    • MarcWills

      For me the rot set in after the Bradley Ambrose ‘accident’ where he got a recording of a private conversation. This then mysteriously (but apparently without him helping) ended up in the hands of certain media, who then used it to discredit political parties in the middle of an election campaign. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour by all involved, and this is when I realised I had had enough of the lefty media and it’s commentators.

      • Dave

        Yes, yes and yes. I maintain if Ambrose was genuine, he might have listened to the tape out of curiosity, had a laugh, and deleted it. Episode and issue over. However, he not only kept it, he passed it on possibly for a sum of money. This is where he still needs to face court, and for me, he has no credibility……

        “Ambrose is a former police constable who was suspended from the force while connections with a militia leader were investigated. Ambrose, formerly known as Brad White, was investigated by police in 2000 for his connection with Kelvyn Alp, an ex-soldier who was reportedly trying to recruit a private army to oppose the government”

        Might explain a bit about his personal motivation.

        • Rightsideofthebed

          The story going round at the time was that Constable White applied to the SIS for funding to “buy a Harley” to assist him to infiltrate Alp’s group.
          SIS took one look and kicked it back to the Police to talk to him.
          A certain Detective Inspector called him in and asked White about it and was apparently told – “I can’t tell you, it’s top secret”
          Amazingly his career didn’t last long after that.

  • Left Right Out

    Here is my pic for the night…….. I think this was written just for me

    Oh, for the rugby folk here…… Piri Weepu grabed a coffee from me today, wonder what he’s doing in Christchurch

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      And THAT’s the bleedin point!!! Even when it’s explained to you!!!

      • Left Right Out

        I don’t understand….LOL

      • XCIA

        This has no relevance whatsoever, but it looks good ;-)

        • cows4me

          You’re pushing your luck :-)

        • patriot

          I just had to post that on my FB page. ?

        • TC

          Priceless

    • F T Bear

      It sounds like Piri was getting a coffee

  • Left Right Out

    Wow…… all negative towards the govt.

    I’d like to know how Wussel thought JK was factually wrong…… when the Greenpeace name is in the database??

    • F T Bear

      I miss him

      • Kitschinsync

        I really miss his predictability in calling for a public enquiry every ten minutes.

        • F T Bear

          James Shaw just doesn’t do the look of disgust that Norman had every time he was laughed at during question time

    • XCIA

      Remember a bunch of years ago some entrepreneurial type made small rubber auntie H heads that you could squeeze and throw around the office. I wish the same crowd would make ones of Wussel, Angry and PDB.

      • I had a Winston. But, appropriately, my dog chewed it to bits.

        • XCIA

          I still have Auntie H in the office, albeit a little worse for wear.

  • intelligentes candida diva
    • idbkiwi

      Fantastic.

    • Quinton Hogg

      I’ve supported West Ham since i was a kid. Why? i don’t know. I just do. Probably why a mate supports Leicester.
      Yesterday made my year beating MU.
      And go Winston.

      • intelligentes candida diva

        A double duty celebration for you :-)

  • Hi all. Yes, I’m ok. Another day where I ran out of time so the least important things got left (the videos and Daily Roundup). This keeps up I might need an assistant! I hope things will go back to normal soon, but while the blog is in the media and the focus of some unwanted attention, I’m needed elsewhere longer.

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      Was just wondering what happened to Daily Roundup and then figured the crew were busy elsewhere (didn’t know who did it) so decided not to ask and hey presto you answered my unasked question.
      Spooky – do monkeys have extra esp or have you been putting trackers in my bananas?

      • Orange

        Mmm time for chinese internet videos?

        • Miss McGerkinshaw

          No idea what these might be but not sure I want to?

          Edit – just realised what you were referring to. NO. NO and NO – well not from me anyway, lol.

      • Now stop that, you’re making be blush.

        • Miss McGerkinshaw

          Now that I realise what Orange was on about wonder if that was what was making you blush cause figure you can handle compliments?

    • Muffin

      Any chance if the team gets time tomorrow to post some of the house highlights from today, when JK got booted etc, they make out it such a big deal, ” over a decade” blah balh, but hes been in power for 7 years, its not a bad result, and HC and DL got kicked out, DL twice!

      • Jude

        When people listen to the persistent heckling and rubbish questions from the opposition, it is something of a miracle John Key has lasted this long without snapping.
        He must have the patience of a saint?

        • F T Bear

          David Carter did him a favor, how many times can you give the same answer to the same questions from the same people who are to deaf to the answers

          • Beria

            Yesterday Carter cut off Andy’s questioning because the Labour members were talking over the answer so obviously weren’t interested. That’s insightful, because Panama is Little’s exclusive territory, and the Labour caucus is genuinely not interested.

          • sheppy

            Usual opposition / lefty tactic, keep doing the same thing until it fits with the answer you want. Never works and they never notice

      • Curly1952

        Pretty inane really and I got the distinct impression that he was happy to leave because the questions were about him saying that Greenpeace were mentioned in the Panama papers and the Greens said he was incorrect. Remember that the Greens and Labour are accusing the Government of the fact that this and that person are in the Panama Papers – apparently, by their rules, they can do that JK can’t.
        He was sick of it all so said to himself “i’m out of here”

      • Good strategy eh? It meant he didn’t have to listen to Ron Mark :)

      • KGB

        All I remember thinking was JK was facing JS so his back was to the speaker. The noise seemed so loud JK didn’t even notice his mic was off.
        How could he have seen Carter on his feet?
        It may have been deliberate but I want to review the evidence ? It’s not JK’s style to pull a Winston.

  • Uncle Bully

    I agree. I regularly read DF’s posts, but never bother reading comments.

  • Oarsum

    A. Little, too incompetent to recognise his own incompetence

    David Dunning on the 1999 experiments, in which he and colleague Justin Kruger found the incompetent suffer an illusory superiority, assessing their own abilities to be much higher than they really are – or as it was parsed elsewhere, “too incompetent to recognise their own incompetence”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    So you now know the psychological name for his ailment

    • Jude

      That is a trait of the left. I do remember thinking Cunliffe, who may well have been a clever man, was very full of himself.
      Ironic they try to say that of John Key but I just can’t see it myself.

    • Intrigued

      I love that coming to WO I often learn something new. Very interesting reading your link n that. So A Little suffers from anosognosia. What a great word.

  • Yes, but there they don’t suffer the censorship you all carry as a burden around here.

    • KiwiLliz

      BUT that’s a positive not a negative.

  • (pic). Just popped up in the files, thought it needed another airing.

    • Moonroof

      Sonovamin is a treasure. Book still on coffee table.

    • Huia

      Love it. Very clever.

    • cows4me

      Martin Marty is a real honey isn’t he.

      • shykiwibloke

        The beard just adds that something casting agents call X factor.

  • Dave

    I think we all need to think of poor Mr Hager tonight, after sinking months and months of work into his panama papers, getting NZ’s finest deep breathing Churnalists to work with him and exciting the Labour Leader so much and the worst he can find is a handful of references to Greenpeace and the Red Cross. We should all feel for Mr Hager, who will have lost almost all credibility, and have even less people to talk to now, it seems he should have got in on the ground floor just over year ago when Whale Oil was considering hats, and a Panama hat was discussed and rejected, great hindsight there, instead the Monaco hat was offered.

    Perhaps we should all chip in a cent from our overseas trusts and send Nicky a Panama Hat with the Whale Oil band, I’m sure it will make his day, and lift his lonely spirits. Might even be able to get it signed for him.

    • XCIA

      The only people that should feel for that weasel is Mr Plod when he calls around to feel his collar for all the blagging, stealing, receiving and misery the mongrel has caused.

    • Jude

      Very funny . Would love to be a fly on the wall to see Hagers face?

      • Dave

        Probably the same look as when Annette King got a nice bunch of flowers……

      • sheppy

        He’ll be working on his next expose in time for the election, dirty politics 2A / dirty trusts / insert next name made up by his paymaster here.
        Same timing cycle, similar content,
        Same aims.
        It must really annoy him that he didn’t get Greenpeace edited out before he did the reveal this time around!

    • Nige.

      surely he must be used to it by now

    • Isherman

      The other way of looking at it is that he has done us a favour by successfully distracting the opposition from concentrating on real issues…would the Labour Party have ever picked up and ran with this particular ball without him? No, just like last time, and I suspect the result will be the same.

      • shykiwibloke

        Shh. The red brigade will smell a conspiracy and realise Hager is a double agent – planted there by the great evil one with a blue tie.

    • rangitoto

      Don’t forget the big fish. The Elvis impersonator guy. Hager will be dining out on that.

    • Woody

      I feel for Hagar all right, I feel contempt for him, nothing but contempt.

  • Jude

    Not sure but that would be a handy reminder for me to remember mine?

  • Miss Phit

    I hear the brits are relegislating their broadcasting rules.

    Impartiality is the key word… and its not going down well.

    Maybe we could do the same.

    • Moonroof

      If impartiality has to be legislated, then it proves that media is already broken. Better to be openly partisan than hiding behind falsehood.

      • biscuit barrel

        Trouble is their editorial guidelines drip with ‘impartiality’ already, but have so many exceptions it means nothing.
        Diversity is there too, but they have it meaning different backgrounds but one political view.
        Just looked at BBC front page, they have story of 15 yr old who ‘found’ ancient Mayan city- but its all junk science according the a mayan civilization expert.
        Classic of misinformation with great picture of mayan carvings – not from lost city of course, but cunningly dont have any caption so cant be caught fibbing.
        Actual city is just blurred satellite photos with square shapes – which are just old fields.

      • Miss McGerkinshaw

        A bit like the a lot of PC ‘you can’t say that’ – people may not say what they think but doesn’t stop them being racist, sexist, ??ist!

  • biscuit barrel

    Whatever happened to Anmol Seth ?

    • Got arrested and charged I believe. Walking around the community waiting for court dates to come around.

  • rangitoto

    Just saw this tweet from the Donald.

    “I don’t want to hit Crazy Bernie Sanders too hard yet because I love
    watching what he is doing to Crooked Hillary. His time will come!”

    Definitely turned his attention to the Dems now. I suspect he will move towards the centre trying to capture some or all of the Dem voters supporting Sanders because they loathe Clinton. In the end I can’t imagine any GOP voting Clinton. Will be much closer than people think. I see Nate Silver is backing off from bothering with polling at this stage. A lot of water to go under the bridge.

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