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  • Magic word for today: business

    • Nige.

      oh no.

      • Isherman

        We’re gonna have to wait till later for that to become clear aren’t we?

        • Nige.

          Well I got a preview. I cant believe he is going through with it.

          • Only 2 pounds 50 if you don’t mind the curry burn! How could I not share this gem?

        • Definitely after the kids have gone to bed. (21:30)

      • Oh yes.

  • Nechtan

    Born today in 1940 Levon Helm drummer and lead vocals with The Band.

    Born today in 1944 Verden Allen founding member and keyboardist with Mott the Hoople.

    Born today in 1945 Gary Peterson drummer with The Guess Who.

    Born today in 1948 Stevie Nicks (born Stephanie Lynn Nicks) songwriter and vocalist with Fleetwood Mac and solo.

    Today in 1966, The Rolling Stones went to number 1 on the UK singles chart with “Paint It, Black”, their 6th UK number 1 single.

    Today in 1967 “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” by The Beatles was rush released in the UK a week before the US release date of 1 June. It has sold over 32 million copies world wide to date.

    Today in 1973 Deep Purple released “Smoke On The Water”.

    Today in 1979 Blondie had their second UK number 1 hit with “Sunday Girl”.

    • George

      I was 19 when Sgt Pep was released. I remember picking up my pre ordered album. The queue was halfway round the block. The next six hrs was dedicated to continues replays as I layed on my bed. Nothing else mattered.

    • Left Right Out

      Wow…. some absolute classic in there tonight……

  • Carl

    So true. (pic)

    • MaryLou

      But what is one to do, when the choice is Dumb or Dumber?!?

      • kereru

        Abstain ;-)

        • Carl

          Buy doing that you can’t complain about Dumb or Dumber.

          • kereru

            True, but what choice is there? It sticks in the craw to vote for the sitting member who gets in by default every time, and has done so for nearly 30 years. What exactly he’s done for the electorate in that time is the million dollar question. Zilch as far as anyone can tell.

          • MaryLou

            30 years?? Who?

          • kereru

            The incumbant who has been sitting pretty since 1987.

            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11247424

          • MaryLou

            Aaah, that one. Well, he’s less damaging than McCully though.

          • kereru

            To be damaging you have to actually DO something, so that lets him off.

            We’ll never forget the sight of our esteemed MP slouching in the back benches with his collar undone and his tie askew after quaffing a few too many at Bellamy’s. That’s the abiding memory of our visit to Parliament during question time some years ago.

  • George

    I am extremely critical of the MSM and most of that criticism, I feel, is justified. It could be argued that I observe the news with a patch over one eye and there may be a tiny molecule of evidence that lays claim to my guilt, but putting that to one side, I don’t think I’m deaf or blind to what I’m observing of late.

    We now have a Labour back bench MP as the “go to” spokesperson regarding the Auckland housing “crisis”. Not Phil Twyford who is Labour’s spokesperson on Housing and Auckland issues, nor indeed, Nick Smith, National’s housing spokesperson, but Phil Goff!

    Since when has TV ONE been so remiss as to be confused by which portfolio is whose when a subject matter is being debated? Since when did the Labour spokesperson on Defence become the “go to” expert on Auckland housing? Not only does he comment, but he also has the solutions. How embarrassing it must be for TV ONE to have got their contacts confused! And what is worse, they didn’t even get to interview the Mayor of Auckland, who you would have thought would have a stake in the matter!

    • MaryLou

      Well, they’ve already picked Phil as the Auckland Mayor, so in their mind, it’s not a matter of the wrong portfolio, just a technicality.

      Y’know, small stuff.

  • Nige.

    Lovetoteach answered last nights question with:

    “Swearing. I really need to reign it in”

    Do you swear?

    What do you think of swearing?

    Have sworn in the presence of someone you shouldn’t have?

    • Curly1952

      Yes, My mother, but being the gracious woman she is just carried on as if nothing happened. I think the worst I have heard her say is “damn”

    • Carl

      Yeah I do probably more than I should. Working on building sites it is just par for the coarse. Parents swore a bit so I’ll blame them.

      • ex-JAFA

        I see what you did there :-)

    • Wasapilot

      I do swear occasionally, it just slips out. I do think it shows a lack of control and lack of ability to convey your thoughts. Instead of saying “what the [email protected]&%# is going on here” when a “what on earth is happening here” shows perhaps a better level of intelligence.

      I hit my right thumb with a club hammer twice in one day years ago, I let rip with a string of expletives, and I did not care who heard me, my mother and daughter were in the vicinity, and it funnily enough didn’t cross my mind at the time that they may be shocked.

      • Curly1952

        Sometimes Wasa there is only one word that will fully describe the problem/pain!

      • Michelle

        ouch tears to the eyes stuff, l can feel the pain

    • Nechtan

      Yes I swear (alot)
      I don’t think about it , unfortunately its ingrained these days, it just happens.
      All the time.

    • Isherman

      Yep.
      It has it’s appropriate places, and places where it’s not.
      Yes, but it wasn’t here:)

    • Jude

      I try very hard not to swear. My mother told be off some time ago for saying “damn” and “bloody” when I was worked up about something written in the MSM .
      Reducing time on MSM has helped:)

    • MaryLou

      Yep, far more than I should. I sit between industries and on one side it’s par for the course, and on the other it’s just not done. I really need to tone it down :)

    • kiwisnab

      Luckily, I don’t type like I speak. If I did there would be no more commenting.

    • No problem with weapons grade swearing.

    • ex-JAFA

      I used to do it a lot more than I do now. As an aspiring politician, I have to be more careful what I say, and the not-so-recent moderation standards here have toned down my verbal swearing too. Liquor always lowers my standards, though.

    • Usaywot

      Time and place, time and place.

    • Eiselmann

      I can, if I have to , swear like a trooper, having grown up around a lot of swearing as a kid (thanks step family)

      I don’t normally swear and on the rare occasions I do swear it actually catches people by surprise.

      Otherwise my default non swear phase (when I might otherwise swear) is ‘fudge and cucumbers’

      Don’t know where it came from , I suspect I was trying to be on my best behavour and enduring self inflicted pain ( I can be quite accident prone).

    • KGB

      I swear at home or with friends, but I NEVER slip up.
      When really angry I never swear. There’s an art to delivering good verbile venom without bad language. Far more effective.

      • Aucky

        I swear with the best of them when I’m out with the lads but never use the c… word.

        • Les couilles de chien.

          chardonnay?

        • MaryLou

          Oh no, never the c word. It’s just wrong.

          • D.Dave

            I am stunned how many young women use it these days. They really don’t care.

          • MaryLou

            It’s my pet hate. I don’t think there’s anything worse…

          • STAG

            Panties,

          • MaryLou

            OK, yep, that’s close, but still not quite!

        • Gaynor

          I save that word to abuse my husband !!! He just laughs.

          • STAG

            I once told HIND that while it might have been appropriate to use that wordtowards me, the sliding doors were open and I wasn’t sure the neighbours needed to know as well.

    • Goldie

      Was brought up in a no swearing household, but due to influences from friends and work mates, I can now swear like a trooper on occasion. So swearing doesn’t bother me, and I am able to moderate my language to suit the company.

    • Les couilles de chien.

      yes i do and I’m getting quite good at it.

    • JEL51

      Some words I use are common terminology for us rural folks, ones which should only be uttered in among hills & grass as to not to offend the townies or the religious, but I had a real problem when coming here to WO (in the good old days).My life has been so sheltered, I didn’t know what some abbreviations represented. I found out by asking my neighbour, a retired English teacher !!

      • Michelle

        a friend had a farming neighbour up the road complain about the friends worker and her choice of language, which is filthy and that is just in normal conversation but when she raises her voice and it echoes round the valley, not pretty

        • JEL51

          The last kilometer of this road is quite steep.Bill on the left would use the Lord’s name frequently when working his dogs. The family on the right were very devout .Bill still lives on that farm but the other family shifted a long time ago.

          • Michelle

            When we were kids we ended up with a dog who shared the same name as the neighbour, so had to watch what dog was called when not doing as he was told
            Mind you the dog did have a habit of playing with parents, when sent to get the bulls he would get the sheep, turkeys everything but the bulls when he was in one of his moods, funny for us to watch but the air was blue

      • Michelle

        Been meaning to ask you if you have climbed Maungatapere mountain?
        Group of us going to do it and thought you might have climbed it

        • JEL51

          Yes, after looking at it for over 20yrs, my nephew visiting last year, forced us to do it !! It was a good trek but we did it two days after doing Mt Mania so the muscles pained at every step. Do you know where to find track?

          • Michelle

            we are meeting up with a group from over your way and they will lead us
            Looking forward to it

          • JEL51

            It is much kinder than Mania but you don’t get a view. Hope all goes well.

          • Michelle

            yeah l looked at it the other day and thought there will not be much to see
            You are right about the pudding bowl it is so nicely formed

          • David

            Parents farmed on Maunu Mt. Climbed it lots of times but never climbed Maungatapere . Got up 2/3 of the way doing jobs though.

          • JEL51

            I am at the base of it down the substation road. The neighbour on this side has kiwi fruit so since PSA took off, he won’t allow people to use the track on his place. So we went in from Hwy 14 which was quite easy, bush not too dense.
            Are your folks still in the area?

          • David

            All left the area in the 80s. In Aussie for 3 more years then back to the farm in Mid Canterbury. Went to school at Maungatapere

          • JEL51

            Oh ok, you probably wouldn’t recognised the area now then. Lots of horticulture , mostly avocado & kiwi fruit orchards with just a few dairy farms in between. We moved out from town in 92. so our kids went to the same school and its still very popular. ( I grew up in Sth Canterbury )

          • David

            It was just starting to go into orchards when we left. 1 farm my parents owned were was cut up for orchards

          • JEL51

            I think there were only 8 or 9 houses when we moved here but by the time the road was sealed there was 30plus. Changes to lot sizes down to as little as 2 hectares at one stage, brought many more people into the area. We love it here.

        • 133m ASL? A mountain? Good grief.

          • Michelle

            Not my word for it
            to me it is a hill that we are going to climb

          • JEL51

            Its more like an up-side down steam pudding bowl but it feels like a mountain climb when every muscle still aches froma previous climb. Have you done Mt Mania at the harbour mouth Pete?

          • Michelle

            How many hundred steps are there?
            That is a gut buster and some people run up there regularly
            l loved standing out on the rock that hung out over the side part way up

          • JEL51

            Those steps are the killer. The old track had more natural footing so was much easier than it is now.

          • Michelle

            the steps are too long you you can’t walk properly, or at least l can’t as my legs are too short

          • You two clearly haven’t done Mt Iron down in Otago then :P

          • JEL51

            We are much too refined …………….:P

          • Michelle

            Went down to Mt Aspiring area earlier in the year
            Never saw the Mt Iron track

          • No, I didn’t do Mt Mania, I did the Bream Head circuit starting from the beach. Good grief that was a steep slog up. At least that got to a respectable 500m ASL :P

          • JEL51

            Up with the kiwi? Mania should be on your list for next time.

    • Hailstormers

      Just watching dog trials on tv and on WO and memories came flooding back to me. My father use to swear a lot on the farm so were use to a lot of swearing especially at docking time. So when mustering turned to custard the typical choice of words that came from the old man was entertaining for us kids. For those of you who like to swear just fill in the dots

      Get in behind ….Meg. ….Meg don’t make come up to you. ….Meg. ….Meg. You …. …. ..Meg. Wait till you …..get home Meg.

      Poor old ….Meg.

      Don’t swear much now. Cringe when at work and every second word is a swear word. Have accidentally sworn in the presence of the big boss and I felt pretty stink afterwards.

      • Michelle

        Docking and shearing time the air was blue
        l don’t swear much and cringe when people use certain words especially women, some words just don’t suit them as every second word that comes out of their mouth

    • XCIA

      Reminds me of my time at Abbey Hill primary school in Edinburgh. The teacher asked for a show of hands from all those who’s parents swore. I’m glad I didn’t put my hand up because I learnt later that those parents who were dobbed in received a visit from the school. My Irish mother would have skinned me alive.

    • STAG

      Like a sailor! Have for years reign it in for management meetings but other then that… that blue streak better watch itself.

    • Greg M

      Industrial strength and far too often.

    • intelligentes candida diva

      Im Celtic so there is a particular word that is uttered but in frustration or astonishment more than anger
      Try not to

  • Nige.

    I think the taxing the hell out of tobacco experiment can come to an end. Sure its a great way to get some extra tax dollars but young people are still smoking. i see them walking down the street with smokes hanging out their mouths. Its really time to decide if its a legal product or if it needs to be licenced or something. The feeble minded people who ought to quit who havnt (im talking about poor people) will just sacrifice a packet of chips or bikkies or something from the groceries and try and cut back a bit.

    I dont like smoking i used to smoke and i live with a mrs who smokes and i hate it with a passion but i really see this as the continuation of a failed experiment that brings in a lot of cash that more than covers the cost of the damage. Or so i have heard.

    • I have no problem with smoking…it is a tax on stupidity and they kill themselves off eventually. Natural selection and they pay on the way through.

      • Nige.

        Doc told the mrs she would only make it to 56 at this rate. I need her longer than that.

        • XCIA

          Maybe so, but my colleagues father who turned 100 gave up smoking when he was about 85 only because he stopped enjoying it….AND his wife who is also 100 and a recipient of much second hand smoke is also in the best of health. In fact my colleague says he can’t remember when they last went to see the doctor……

          • RockinBob625

            And my uncle is due soon for retirement but wont see it, due to lung cancer.

            Some win, some lose.

          • XCIA

            One of my old friends had just retired when he was told he had lung cancer. He had never smoked. He told me that he just sat down and cried because for the first time he had everything he wanted and was all set to enjoy it. He decided that it was not going to beat him and he went out and found alternative treatments. Eighteen months later he is good to go with all signs of the cancer gone. He has bought a racing car and is living life to the full.

          • MaryLou

            There is a whole campground/retirement village up north with people of similar stories. I tend to really only believe what I can see so have issues with alternative medicine, but you can’t stand in front of all those people and deny that they’re looking pretty good for people who were told they’d be dead 10 years ago. There is just so much we don’t know…

          • Asian_driver

            And some people dont catch AIDS in spite of risky activities

          • XCIA

            Seems that’s well on the increase, so don’t hold your breath on that one!

          • Mags

            The exception to the rule?

          • XCIA

            They say 100 is the new 80…….

        • RockinBob625

          Would tellin her that you need to start shopping for a replacement help her stop sooner?

        • Dave

          Start leaving a few pictures of other women around, if she asks, just say it’s long term planning for after she turns 56. Hmmmm might plan to be in your running shoes if you’re game to drop that one.

          • Nige.

            She would definitely out live me if I did that

      • Gourmet

        slightly disagree with the argument. by the way i am a non smoker. Today is taxing smoking more, next sugar, where does it stop. it doesn’t as each government has there agenda. Maybe a government will be taxing internet usage one day? who knows?

    • Les couilles de chien.

      stinking filthy habit. Tax the bejesus out of them whilst theres still smokers alive or ban it.

      • Gaynor

        Husband smoked since he was a teenager . He gave up about 10 years ago but has COPD which will kill him eventually. COPD being one of those fast rising killer stats.

        • Asian_driver

          Sorry to hear that, I have COPD and know that its a debilitating illness, I have known it was coming since I was 11 so have had plenty of time to think about it

    • Goldie

      If the amount of tax applied to smokes hasn’t dissuaded people to stop by now (I gave up because of it), then it probably never will. It’s becoming a bit of a “flogging a dead horse” situation?

      • Nige.

        I agree with it in principle but can see nothing is going to stop an addicted person.

        • Goldie

          I could only give up by going to ecigs (you may be able to convince your mrs to try them?). Although they are still relatively new and unproven healthwise, they have to be better than cigarettes.

          • Nige.

            It’s not the smoking. It’s the breaking up of the day that’s the problem I think once certain people are hooked. You know…. get up in the morning and celebrate with a smoke. Boil the jug and celebrate with a smoke. Get the kids lunch ready and celebrate with a smoke. About to get in the car….better have a smoke first.

          • Ross

            I think e-cigs are perhaps the most effective smoking cessation tool there is, and I’ve tried the whole bundle (I must admit “the book” is also highly effective). For 99.9% of my days since I was 15, I got out of bed and had a cigarette immediately and generally smoked around a pack a day for the majority of the last 20 years. The irony of course is e-cigs are illegal to sell under the guise of a smoking cessation product. Sure, you’re still putting nicotine in your system, but thats no different to patches and gum. Champix is perhaps the most evil, brain altering product that’s subsidised by the system and should be banned.

          • Gaynor

            I gave up smoking 4 years ago with Champix..Took all the anxiety out of giving up by being able to keep smoking while taking them. I had awesome dreams that continued night after night like a serial ..in fact the dreams were so cool I would almost consider smoking again just so I could have another course of Champix. Under no circumstances will I ever reveal what sort of dreams I was having !

          • JEL51

            I had no problems with champix but stopped when the aversion effect was putting me off coffee as well.

          • dumbshit

            Don’t you just “enjoy” the bedtime one! Sadly I have the same situation.

        • XCIA

          Hiking the price may work in countries where people who are serious about smoking can not grow their own, but as we all know, tobacco grows like a weed here. Smokers clubs have mushroomed, suppliers of seeds and machinery are doing a roaring trade, smoking has never been cheaper and many smokers who have gone the GYOT have more disposable income.

          • Nige.

            I know of someone who is growing their own and it is very popular.

    • STAG

      Don’t be silly, tax the he’ll out of them. Sure it’s social engineering but it raises taxes and reduces my future tax burden if they do give up.

      Win win.

  • john Doe

    Phew so relieved that Corin Dann has declared to the nation that the Government is doing its core job and that it is a budget that will do for now. As for the opposition response….well Andy is simply inept and floundering beyond his depth. Embarrassing really.

  • Nige.

    [MOD] Use email via contacts tab above to address Cam. Also while your up there please find the blog rules and read them.

  • Wasapilot

    A reminder for those playing the super rugby picking competition, to get your selections completed by tomorrow evening.

    The Bulls v Lions game is a tough one to pick this week IMHO

    Go the Hurricanes, and I have picked the Highlanders to win, but would gladly miss out on points to see the mighty Canes thrash the Highlanders. Should be a good game either way.

    • Isherman

      Lions have lost a couple of key players for this week…it’s the margin to the Bulls that I might have to revise upwards I think.

    • Gazza

      Just like the final last year , had did that go for you LOL

      • Wasapilot

        Hi, my name is Wasapilot, and I am a Hurricnes supporter ?

        Hi Wasapilot, welcome to Hurricanes supporters anonomous.

        • Gazza

          LOL I am a Highlanders supporter and are glad you have chosen them for your picks , hope you score max points with your picks :)

        • hookerphil

          How hard is it to get to know Jude

          • Jude

            You’ll keep?I have very high hopes for my Canes this weekend. If it all turns to custard , I have a screen shot of being number one on our team!

    • hookerphil

      Just looking at the TAB – Hurricanes favourite. Yeah,Nah – what would they know??

  • DemocKot

    A sense of humour!!!

  • Disinfectant

    Here’s a tricky one.

    I use my phone for most things now, including logging onto Whale Oil.

    When a comment comes up with a “view” caption I often upvote inadvertently because it is next to the upvote tick and my finger/thumb clips it.

    Gets worse after a couple of glasses of Pinot Noir.

    • MaryLou

      Geez, how many people have you just disappointed?

      • Disinfectant

        Aw shucks.

        It did cross my mind.

        Technology resulting in unintended consequences.

        Not too many as I have only recently had to rely on the phone. But looks like I am not the only one.

        And Im probably a victim as well.

    • ex-JAFA

      Me too, but usually after I do manage to find the View button, the upvote gets to stay.

      • IKIDUNOT

        Ghee, and I thought you really appreciated all my comments…….

        • ex-JAFA

          It’s usually Carl’s joke/pic du jour that gets a premature upvote.

    • Wasapilot

      I do that too, but on a much larger Ipad. If I think it really did not derve a tick, I think if you hit the upvote button again it removes it.

      • STAG

        That’s the problem with Apple, rotten on the inside, by the way, did you hear? Apple is the new BlackBerry.

        Welcome to Android.

    • Gazza

      Oyster bay , awesome

    • Nige.

      Hit it higher than you normally would.

      #helpingwithfirstworldprobs

    • MaryLou

      Actually, to be fair I have similar issue with going to upvote too quickly, and everything moves to the left just after it’s loaded. Which has resulted in a few totally unintentional downticks. :(

      • Crowgirl

        You can get rid of down ticks by just clicking on them again or up ticking again. So turn that :( upside down :)

  • Isherman

    Just caught up with Andrew Little’s response to the budget, which only left me with one question: What is the magic number in terms of his personal rating where the party says enough?

    • Nechtan

      A date around Nov 2017?

    • Wasapilot

      If they are not truely stupid, they must realise they are doomed regarding the next election, even if they changed leader now. I think they will let him lose the next election, then dump him.

      • Isherman

        The fact that they have kept him till now tells me that even beyond the inevitable election result, they are simply not a party that is capable of making sensible decisions, it’s not just an “Andy” problem, it’s a complete lack of faith in the collective party thinking problem. And just for their info, I am one of the supposed “middle NZ” voters that he keeps referring to, and I’d have more listening time for an alcaholic travelling vacuum salesman than them at the moment.

      • Wheninrome

        They might be happy for winnie to be PM since there is no one in labour up to the job, that way winnie would go with them.

      • KGB

        It’s worse than that…they actually think they can win. They have a Winston in their pocket ?

        • Left Right Out

          Winstons performance today….. and lets be honest it was just a performance… and NZF new policy on voting surely NZF have shot themselves in the foot

    • Gaynor

      Still trying to work out what AA meant by …” NZ needs a government that doesn’t run the country like a school gala” (or something similar) #confusedvoter.

      • Gazza

        Especially now that Labour fund raising has resorted to gala day type sausage sizzles LOL

        • XCIA

          Just as well the hospitals are getting more money to cater for the increase in acute salmonella admissions then.

          • Gazza

            We need as special ward for the people that have been hurt by little vile slurs perhaps

      • Isherman

        “Still trying to work out out what AA meant..” is making the mistake of wasting the effort.

      • Asian_driver

        A bit rough that a bunch of recovering alcoholics are telling are telling the govt how to run the country.

    • Cadwallader

      I think about things like that too. Is it possible he could actually achieve zero-ratings in the preferred PM stakes? It would be a bit like zero-gravity in that he might just float away in his own acidic bile. Where he would land would be anybody’s guess but who cares? (Although North Korea would be a suitable spot for him.)

      • Isherman

        The North Koreans have it tough enough already I would have thought. Inflicting him on them would be close to cruel and unusual punishment.

    • Mick Ie

      I just had to rewind and take a snapshot of Annette King glaring at him when he talked about more money being spent on education but “school performance declining…”
      After looking at it, I discovered the the other two faces were even more priceless!

      • Gazza

        They do seem to sneer at each other regularly , take a look at Shearer when Twyford belching venom

    • Left Right Out

      The magic number is about 20% but he hasn’t come close so they are just going to let the bus roll over him and start a fresh in 2017

  • john Doe

    It has been said that as one ages, the body and mind starts to regress. After hearing Winston’s “get stuffed” response to the budget, it is my opinion that the comment placed him in the pre teen age bracket. It won’t be long before he is back in nappies.

  • Tom

    What pleases me most about this budget is it lays a platform for some really good news in the election year. I bet thats whats got Labour really sweating, I can smell the fear on Littles spittle!

    • Gazza

      Spittle bug Little tried to suggest he and Labour are now ready to govern , sickening really

    • Nige.

      I can sense them rubbing their hands together. This will give extra incentive to bring on the whiteanting

  • Nige.

    Someone called this an oatmeal budget. Bland and. Healthy.

    What would you compare it to?

    • Gaynor

      I would call it an awesome budget as it rolls out the bowel cancer screening. Well over due.

      • Quinton Hogg

        agreed.
        best thing in the budget.
        Had to watch a friend die bowel cancer. very hard.

    • Cadwallader

      I would compare it to anything which doesn’t resemble Labour’s idea of sound financial management.

    • Les couilles de chien.

      A renwick pie, very nice and fulfilling my immediate needs but not as good, satisfying or quite hitting the right spot as a burleigh.

      • Nige.

        Then it could also be described as dependable and trend setting and headed in the right direction yet not quite perfect with large chunks of beautifully cooked beef in the perfect proportion to a cooking style cheese which I can’t quite put my finger on…..

        Oh wait. I got sidetracked.

    • KGB

      From someone who got very lucky with the Waitamata bowel cancer screening, that extra funding is awesome.
      It will save many lives once it’s Nationally rolled out.
      It’s a shame the left doesn’t appreciate how lucky NZ is.
      Edit to add…it’s a scone without enough dates.

    • Isherman

      It struck me as an “only pack what you need” type budget.

    • Moonroof

      One of those sandwiches you make for work lunch when there’s not much of anything interesting to put in it but needs must.
      Good comment below from KGB re bowel cancer screening though, how more good work could be done with re-purposing Steven Joyce’s corporate welfare allowance?

  • MaryLou

    Too true… and no acknowledgment in THIS budget of who’s doing the heavy lifting. (pic)

  • pisces8284

    How come , in this day and age, in the world of internet banking, does a cheque paid as a deposit on the sale of a house/business have to stay in the real estate trust account for ten days?

    • MaryLou

      I know! And why can’t electronic banking keep going over the weekend?!? And why does a bank not clear funds straight away, but instead keep it on hold for 3 days even if it’s a bank cheque, that has been purchased with cleared funds at a cost of $25 a pop???

      • metalnwood

        My pet one when I had my visa with a different bank from the mortgage was why can I transfer money from one bank to another same day or overnight but if I transfer money to the visa it takes three days to appear.

        • MaryLou

          Agreed. If I pay someone during the week from my Westpac account, they get it same day, seemingly quite quickly regardless of what bank it is going to. If I pay someone from ASB, it is overnight. It is all bulldust, I’m sure.

          • Platinum Fox

            It’s all to do with the interchange between the banks. ASB was never part of the Databank system and from what you describe it would appear that it still stands apart from the interchange between the other banks.
            I know that my bank makes payments entered into online banking for same day processing a number of times during the day, but payments set up for future dates are only processed at 10 p.m. on the designated day.
            You could try talking to your relationship banker or a transactional banker (not just a branch staff member) about what processing times apply.

          • JustTinkering

            Regardless of when it appears in your account, you are still credited at the time and date of the transaction.

          • Platinum Fox

            That used to be a discretionary matter. Cheques were sent to a processing centre which took images and then sent each physical cheque to the issuer’s processing centre for clearance including verification of signatures. When I lived in the US in the mid-1980s it took a week for checks drawn on a different bank to clear, at a time when the NZ standard was 3 days through Databank.
            There should be no need for clearance periods for electronic payments as the payer’s bank’s electronic banking system should not permit a payment to be made if the account is not in funds or within its overdraft limit and should immediately debit the account so that that credit is no longer available.

          • Mags

            Get paid monthly by automatic payment from 1 Bnz account to another unrelated account. I have to wait for $$ if it falls on a weekend but they seem to be able to whip all my eftpos transactions if I go shopping during the same time period.

          • hookerphil

            I think SBS is the same as the fox said – when they started as a Building Society they had to work through a bank – being Westpac. Same thing, ti pay my VISA card I need to make sure I do it at least 2 days ahead, I usually go 3.

      • RockinBob625

        Because your bank is too cheap to invest in a proper computer system that lets them do that cool stuff.

        Or nobody told them it was a bank check when it wss deposited, and they are too lazy to check every single one.

        • MaryLou

          We bank them daily – they know full well. We can get a quick clearance – for about $25.

          • RockinBob625

            Then i call lazy. I worked for ASB, and they can delete the holds on bank cheques, giving you instant access. They did get a bit dodgy years ago when someone was passing fakes, but should be over that by now.

            PS. This was all at least thirteen years ago, so technology must be better by now

    • KGB

      It doesnt, you can request an early release. They don’t like it but they can’t do anything about it.

      • MaryLou

        Except charge you for it, I bet.

        • KGB

          I always work out exactly what the agent commission is and only offer that as a deposit when purchasing.
          The vender should always demand the agents fee, plus enough to sue if the purchaser doesn’t settle.
          They are (generally) very poor at representing anyone but themselves.

      • pisces8284

        I realise that, and we have, but why should we have to?

        • KGB

          It’s all about protecting their fee.

    • pisces8284

      I asked our solicitor why this is normal and the only answer he could give me was, well it’s always been like that

    • Quinton Hogg

      Section 123 of the REAA Act provides for the ten day period.
      In general terms once an agreement is unconditional the deposit may be released within that 10 period if both parties agree in writing.
      My experience is that agents don’t mind the deposit being released early (less the deduction for commission).

      • * always add: don’t take legal advice from strangers on the Internet. :P

      • pisces8284

        But my point is, does this stem from the days of cheque clearing? If so, why has no one challenged it as being out of date

        • Quinton Hogg

          Nope.
          People can still stop money transfers between banks or have them reversed after they have gone thru.
          Unless we have confirmation from a clients bank that the funds are cleared and will not be reversed when they arrive in our trust account we treat the funds as if the were received by cheque and wait for a couple of days before drawing on the funds.
          That sort of reversal has happened to us before so we are very cautious about money.

      • KGB

        The agent told us that and we put up a fight about it because we needed the balance for a deposit ourselves.

        • Quinton Hogg

          If I am in a good mood i agree to early release on behalf of my purchasing client.
          if i am not well wait for 10 days.

    • Bryan

      yea i think it is tied up with the deposit has to be cleared funds i.e. it cannot be pulled back but as KBG says it can released earlier if requested and i know through family industry links that has been done, but there is a very clear process that has to be followed,

    • Totara

      Who in this day and age would still accept payment by cheque?

      There is a technology called banknotes that don’t have that problem. And nowadays they are even brighter than they used to be.

      It’s the difference between ‘credit money’ and ‘base money’, although it still isn’t actually ‘payment in full’.

  • Bryan

    it was really quite clever budget, he hit Winston with the smokes and increase in gold card, hit the Greens with the dropping the emissions and the river clean ups , then to really freak Labour did for health and education what labour thinks is their right to do
    and above all it has much longer term thinking in the social aspects and if Winston thinks it is Get stuffed budget, where would he like us to stuff him

  • Stuff.co.nz Politics @NZStuffPolitics
    Budget 2016: Who’s going to pay for Government spending?
    ——–

    Gee. I dunno. The taxpayers?

    For crying out loud….

    • JeffW2

      And our kids; and their kids; and their kids …….

    • Dave

      So, if they can work out that someone has to pay, then why haven’t they thought about how labour would pay for all their promises.

  • A “culvert” you said cows4me. Clearly not. (pic)
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  • XCIA

    Listening to the naysayers trash the incentive to move out of Auckland to obtain a state house. They say that it takes people out of their comfort zone, away from family, friends and support groups into areas where there is no work for them. Why the hell are people living in cars if they have caring family, friends and support groups and since when would anyone who has never worked suddenly start looking for a job?

  • cyclinggirl

    Couldn’t help but laugh…if only the msm could get their stories straight!

  • MaryLou

    Now for the truly absurd. A council made up of Arab states and Palesinians – put in place by WHO – are accusing Israel of Health Rights abuses. Only 8 countries voted against that proposal, and guess who WASN”T one of those 8. Shame on you McCully, Clarke, and yes – John Key. This is beyond corrupt. Yet you dare to call it impartial.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/who-singles-out-israel-for-probe-into-health-rights-abuses/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

  • intelligentes candida diva

    I have just got off FB and was a bit tired after needing to be a sleuth to stay ahead of the manipulation

    I had asked a question to a commenter on Khloe Ks page following her post of two muslim females.
    I asked a question to one commenter and no answer by the commenter but a reply by another suggesting I was ‘shaming’ the religion, I sorted that one.
    Of interest the person I first posed my question to then sent a friend requeststill withoutanswering my question.
    I checked the page and profile &it said he worked for FB from Spain cover picture was Western summer shorts happy but every post in Arabic.
    I deleted & blocked.
    I went back in to obtain profile to post here and now it said in Uk from United Arab Emirates everything written in English and cover pic of Saudi style dressed males.

    It seems to me the youth are savvy at al Taqiyya to the unassuming
    FB A trap for young players

    https://www.facebook.com/hamzaabdel.101?fref=ufi&rc=p&__nodl#

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