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  • Nechtan

    Born today in 1955 Nicky “Topper” Headon drummer with The Clash.

    Today in 1964 “Love Me Do” by The Beatles went to number 1 in the US.

    Died today in 1980 Carl Radle bass guitarist for Delaney and Bonnie and Friends, Derek And The Dominos and Eric Clapton’s touring band aged 37.

    Today in 1992 The Black Crowes went to number 1 on the US album chart with “The Southern Harmony And Musical Companion”.

    Died today in 2003 record producer Mickie Most (born Michael Peter Hayes) aged 64. During a long career he recorded with The Animals, Herman’s Hermits, Donovan, Lulu, The Yardbirds, The Nashville Teens, Hot Chocolate, Kim Wilde and many others.

    • willtin

      I bought that Beatles album in a little shop up North, a little over a year ago. I thought I must be onto a great bargain at $10. My dreams of wealth were soon dashed, although there was potential to nearly double my money.

  • Carl

    pic

    • Old Dig

      Good thing the Republicans have a Trump card

      • Nige.

        Some real wit going on here tonight! Good one.

      • willtin

        And they reckon they took the Joker out of the pack, before they shuffled.

      • twittertit

        Dad jokes. Just can’t avoid them.

  • George

    We have had a number of media focused sob stories about homelessness, living in cars, over crowding and child poverty. Much of this has been very selective and dramatised for maximum impact aimed at embarrassing the Government. But be that as it may, there is one overwhelming consistency and that is these mothers have many more children than they could ever hope to support. These women, for what ever reason, literally end up holding the babies. I don’t really have a great deal of sympathy for them, but they are the ones who have the responsibility to raise these children. Where I can find a little empathy though, is through my awareness that in almost every case, these women have been abandoned by the sires of these children. It’s easy to be judgemental and heep ridicule on these women but the feral fertilisers just carry on impregnating women at their convenience and for their personal entertainment, with anonminity.

    Usually through fear, the mother will refuse to name the father on the child’s birth certificate thus enabling the father to escape the responsibility of contributing towards the child’s upbringing. In some cases even the mother isn’t sure who the father is. The big question then, is how do we bring the fathers to account? Is the only solution to have free and compulsory contraception for all women on the benefit and any child born during this period will not qualify for additional funding? But then again the responsibility is still the woman’s. An obvious solution is to not sleep around. Yeah, I can see that working. Suduction, in feral territory, can be as subtle as “turn it up or you will get the bash”.

    The real contributors to this problem are the scumbag, gutless males. They are the ones who are ripping off the taxpayer by avoiding their responsibilities. They are the foundation of most of the social dysfunction and yet it is rarely discussed or commented on. There are some rotten males out there and it is about time they were delt to.

    • Sagacious Blonde

      Some Government has to have the stones to refuse extra funding for children born while on a benefit. I know five years of kids are going to be put to the wall, but the current ‘breeding bonus’ is not tenable.Contraception would become rather attractive once reality hit home.
      In fact, an equivalent bonus if they remain childless, would probably still save the nation money.

    • dumbshit

      If it were possible to guard against beaurocratic abuse, a DNA register, would be useful. Murderers to burglars would be more easily found!

    • JEL51

      What’s done is done for that lot but if we worked on those kids at this moment still at school, perhaps the stats that Lindsay Mitchel brought out today, could be turned around in the future.
      We need a change in mind-set from those doing the advising, those experts, Susan St John and company that criticized the report Lindsay presented.
      The hard facts need to be shot home to today’s kids, including those stats brought out in today’s report.

  • Nige.

    Left Right Out answered last nights question with:

    “a line in a movie”

    Whats one of your more memorable movie lines?

    • Richard

      “That boy sure is a running fool”

    • 1dafool

      “I just shot Marvin in the face” JT Pulp Fiction

      • STAG

        Why am I back here on brain detail?

        • 1dafool

          Do you know why you didn’t see the sign? Coz storing dead N’s ain’t my (expletive) business, that’s why!!
          Poor acting by Quentin but awesome burn regardless.

      • Isherman

        That movie is pretty much a masters course in awesome quotes & one liners, except most of them cant be repeated in full here!

        • Soleman

          Watched it again on Sky last night – great movie

      • Barnacles2

        My wife gets annoyed when I pull out the pulp fiction quotes, particularly Butch and Marcellus “you ok?” “I’m pretty f’n far from ok” then some great dialogue as they discuss what to do with Zed

    • Carl

      “Donald’s a Duck, Mickey’s a Mouse, what the hell is Goofy”?

      • sonovaMin

        A dog

        • Carl

          “but he wears a hat and drives a car he cant be a dog”. That was the two replies in the movie Stand by me. My favourite movie ever.

      • willtin

        A Labour Minister

        • Gazza

          Shoooooosh

    • Dave

      “Do I (you) feel lucky – Well, do you Punk” Clint Eastwood.

      https://youtu.be/8Xjr2hnOHiM

    • Nechtan

      “Get off my lawn”

    • XCIA

      “I’m going to make him an offer he can’t refuse,” from The Godfather.

    • Jonathon Stone

      He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.

    • Carl

      A favourite of this blog. “Tell him he’s dreaming”.

      • Crowgirl

        “How’s the serenity?”

        “It’s the vibe of the thing”

        “This is going straight to the pool room”

        That movie is jam packed with classics.

        • Huia

          Smell the two stroke.
          Son of Cocoa.
          You could sell that.

        • Carl

          “We are going to Bonnie Doon”

          • Gazza

            For Jousting sticks , tell em he’s dreamin LOL

        • STAG

          Kick Boxing 24hrs A Day!

          funny funny movie.

      • ex-JAFA

        Movie? I always thought it was a documentary!

        • Dan

          The Castle (1997)

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      Never actually saw the movie, in fact don’t even know which movie but use Arnie’s “I’ll be back” a lot. (Or I’m told he said it)

      “Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine.”

    • Wheninrome

      Frankly my dear I don’t give a damn. From Gone With the Wind, Rhett Butler to Scarlet O’Hara.

      • sarahmw

        Scarlett : ” tomorrow is another day”.

    • colin herbertson

      Arresting people for murder around here is like handing out speeding tickets at the indie 500. – Captain Willard, Apocalypse now,
      that movie’s got plenty

      • patriot

        ‘I love the smell of napalm in the morning’!

        • JEL51

          “Good morning Vietnam”

          • patriot

            ‘Apocalypse Now’. ?

      • Old Dig

        ‘Charlie don’t surf’

    • Wasapilot
    • Huia

      I’ll be back …Arnnie in the Terminator
      I will make him an offer he cant refuse…Godfather
      May the Force be with you…Darth Vader
      Play it again Sam…..Bogie

    • Herbert Charles

      Step Brothers; You keep your liver-spotted hands off my beautiful mother. She’s a saint! And then you sit down and you write Dale and Brennan a check for $10,000.

    • Left Right Out

      “Yes, this man has no d….” From ghostbusters

    • Sagacious Blonde

      “Go ahead, make my day” – Dirty Harry

    • Isherman

      C3PO translating the exchange between Jabba and Leia disguised as Boushh.

      C3PO “The mighty Jabba asks why he must pay 50,000”
      Boushh “Ay yoto”
      C3PO (translating) “Because he’s holding a thermal detonator!”

    • nellie

      “You’re gonna need a bigger boat”

    • Eiselmann

      Mr. Hadley, do you trust your wife?-Shawshank Redemption

      Do or do not, there is no try- Empire Strikes Back

    • Vlad

      “What we’ve got here is a failure to communicate” in Paul Newman’s Cool Hand Luke 1967 from the head warden just before he starts beating Newman with a bat on the chain gang. Great movie!

    • Old Dig

      “Game over man, Game over!” – Hudson, ALIENS

    • HR

      Pretty much any line from this movie….(If you haven’t seen it, it is a satirical take on racial prejudice. If you are easily offended, don’t watch)

      https://youtu.be/zkVl1zfM_G4

    • HR

      “Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave”

    • Left Right Out

      Gooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Vietnam … Robin Williams rip

    • Dumrse

      Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only., please.

      • Great movie that. The only thing that jars in it is the rather weird conversation about horses, which was penned by no other than Tarantino. It’s good, but it just doesn’t quite fit the movie.

    • I ain’t got no time to bleed.

      • Damon Mudgway

        Classic film. I’ve got it on 3D Blu Ray now. Looks awesome. Jessie Ventura’s character is soooo anti feminine.

        • The only thing I regret is that you can never see it like the first time again.

    • Left Right Out

      “They may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom!”
      “I’ll have what she’s having”
      “Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!”
      “The first rule of Fight Club is: You do not talk about Fight Club.”

    • Asian_driver

      No man , Dave’s not here. Cheech and Chong

      • willtin

        Anything they said was quotable man .. If only I could remember it

    • colin herbertson

      You can’t handle the truth !
      Son we live in a world that has walls,
      and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns,
      I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom,
      you weep for santiago and you curse the marines
      you have that luxury,
      you have the luxury of not knowing what i know.
      the death of private Santiago, while tragic, probably SAVED LIVES
      and my very existance,while grotesque and incomprehensible to you SAVES LIVES
      you don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at partys you know you want me on that wall
      you need me on that wall.
      We use words like honor,code, loyalty.
      we use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something, you use them as a punchline.
      I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to someone who rises and sleeps under the umbrella of security that i provide and then questions the manner in which i provide it.

    • willtin

      Nobody move, or the black guy gets it!
      My forever favourite film

      • sandalwood789

        From the same movie –
        “Mongo just pawn in game of life.”

        • willtin

          Sorry, for a moment there, I thought you said “Andrew, just a pawn …”

        • Asian_driver

          Candygram for Mongo

    • ex-JAFA

      ‘Cook the man some [jolly] eggs!”

      • Dave

        not much changed there bro……

    • sandalwood789

      “You can’t HANDLE the truth!”

    • Brian Smaller

      “Vote for me, and all your wildest dreams will come true.”

      I am sure Andrew Little watches that movie on a weekly basis.

    • nellie

      “Ludo smell bad” – Labyrinth

    • Damon Mudgway

      “THAT’S WHAT I SAID”…Rango.

    • Jude

      “Face it girls, I’m older and have more insurance! ” Fried Green Tomatoes.

      • Greg M

        Wonderful story, love it.

    • wanarunna

      Is it safe?

    • Jude

      more recently The Big Short had this one liner.
      Truth is like poetry, and most people flipping hate poetry!

      Edit: I swapped the other word beginning with f for flipping.

    • sandalwood789

      “Romanes eunt domus – people called Romanes they go the house?” :)

    • Goldie

      Back in the day, I could almost recite the entire script of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. The whole movie is just a series of quotable one liners!

    • twittertit

      By Grabthar’s Hammer, what a savings.

      For you old lot that don’t get that, you’re missing out. ?

      (Galaxy Quest)

    • jonno1

      ‘Put… the candle… back’

      ‘… Frau Blucher’

      • jonno1

        Whoops, the third clip was in error, but still worth a look.

    • Lux

      You’re Terrible Muriel ..

    • Uncle Bully

      “Everybody knows you never go full retard.” Tropic Thunder

      “Surely you can’t be serious?” “I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley” Airplane

    • silvapenny

      Spike sitting at the dinner table about to sip a glass of red, a bomb lands on the house, dust, ceiling caves in etcetc , pause, dust clears, Spike’s still sitting at his table, smacks his lips and says” by Chr**t that’s good stuff”! (I think it’s “My part in the fall of adolph Hitler)

    • Mark

      Stallone – Cobra “Go ahead I don’t shop here.”

    • Dan

      “Peace Corps types only stay around long enough to realize they’re not helping anyone.” – Dicaprio in Blood Diamond.

    • Mark

      Sly again,he personally suggested Rambo 4 be about Burma.

      Burnett:
      So what I’m asking is that we compensate you for a few hours of your time that will help change people’s lives.

      John J. Rambo:
      Are you bringing any weapons?

      Burnett:
      Of course not.

      John J. Rambo:
      You’re not changing anything.

    • Dan

      “Like warm apple pie.” ….
      …”McDonald’s or homemade?”

    • Sailor Sam

      ” ET phone home”

  • willtin

    I just watched a Silverback Gorilla acting more intelligent than any of the so called human beings witnessing and causing his death.

    • Wasapilot

      Can’t help but think the little boys parents may have been more deserving.

      • Nige.

        Of a tranquilizer ay.

      • willtin

        According to some news I have read; Mum had a few kids on her hands. The kid was likely a handful on his own, having expressed desire to ‘get into the water’.
        Nek minit;

        • Wasapilot

          This just showed up on my facebook feed.
          Refresh for picture

          I guess the zoo did the correct thing, such a tragedy all round

    • Michelle

      there must have been a better way than slaughter the gorilla
      Mind you with the public screeching it would not have helped the situation but l am sure if the keeper had gone in and the public moved away so things were calm then none of this need happen

      • Dave

        As SWMBO said. 2 guns, , first a tranquiliser, if its not working or taking too long, the marksman to kill the gorilla.

        Still think they did the wrong thing, if it had been a crazy human, they would have tried negotiating with him first. RIP Gorilla.

        • MaryLou

          I heard Larry interviewing a zoo dude from Aus, he reckons after reviewing the footage it was the right thing to do – tranquilisers take a while to work, and the time between getting shot and going to sleep can enrage them,, or upset them more. He made sense to me, after all, it was a child, who had already had a very big drop into a moat, and the gorilla – whilst not showing attack signs – was rather agitated…

          • willtin

            What I see is, the Gorilla showing every sign of protecting what it sees as a young ‘thing’ that needs protecting from the screaming, shrieking crowds of ignorant spectators.

          • Michelle

            the screeching crowds would cause most of the problems, sadly

          • Mark

            So shoot the Parents with “Suppressed” weapons,then play over the PA a voice saying “Hush,hush now or you’re next,disperse quietly.” Then start on the crowd,works for me,but probably difficult to implement?

          • Dave

            The other half is a Vet, and yes the tranquilizers can take a minute or so to act, but the gorilla had not shown any aggression that far, just dragging the child to them, it might have been protecting it.

          • Michelle

            and if they had quietly removed the public and had no screams or raised voices then the child could have been removed safely without harm especially if the person who worked with the gorillas was the one who went in
            They could have still had to tranquilizers ready if it went pear shaped but not a bullet

    • Nige.

      Do we need zoos?

      • Miss McGerkinshaw

        Well now THAT’s a whole other debate.
        At least they are constantly improving the habitats of their ‘prisoners’ but not sure we need them.
        That said they do do some good with breeding programmes and such if one adheres to the idea that nothing is allowed to become extinct again, ever! It’s not like that hasn’t been part of life for millenia?

        • STAG

          The breeding program are about there only redeeming feature.

        • Wheninrome

          And ensuing humans don’t become extinct we have mother of 10, closely followed by mother of 8 .

          • Gazza

            Great 2 leftie mothers with 18 leftie kids , maybe they are trying to breed their way around the missing million

          • Wheninrome

            but labour would have it that the children of poverty are dying in their 100’s so they will have to try harder and breed faster.

      • Yup, got a long list of people I would like to put in one.

        • sandalwood789

          So have I …….. ;)

      • Cadwallader

        Well….we have a Labour Party.

        • willtin

          They are already trapped in a cave, built by unions.

        • Gazza

          Nope , the Labour party is more of a circus

      • sandalwood789

        Yes, so that people can gawk at unusual things in the knowledge that said things are locked in cages.

        Wellington Zoo would be the perfect place for a “half-sucked throatie hominid”. There aren’t that many around and they cause all kinds of mayhem if they’re not locked up.

        ( Edit – added sentence )

      • willtin

        Short answer is No. Not as we Know it, Jim.

      • Isherman

        “Do we need zoos?” – No. Nobody “needs” a zoo for any reason.
        Should we have zoo’s? which I suspect is the question you’re really asking – well, that’s an entirely different question:)

      • Goldie

        In two minds. It can be sad seeing such magnificent animals cooped up in small enclosures, but they do serve a useful purpose with breeding programs for the endangered species etc.I must say though that we visited Orana Park in Chch a few years ago, and it seemed to be more a case of the animals being ‘free range’, and the people being the ones caged – quite a good concept?

        • Mags

          Some of the footage looks quite violent.

          • Goldie

            If you are referring to the gorilla incident, then yes, the first part of the footage (I’ve seen) shows the gorilla dragging the boy round like a rag doll!

      • Mark

        Yes,because of the interest it generates in Conservation of the animals seen. Can we do them better? In many cases we already do. Which is no reason to rest,but yes I do think they are very valuable.

    • Goldie

      It would have been a difficult decision for the zookeepers. Although the animal looked to be unsure as to what to do, perhaps even being protective (who knows ?). But when you consider the size and power of an animal like that (he could have snapped the kid in two in an instant), I dare say killing it was their only option?

  • Misfit

    urrghhhhh, One news, Andrea Vance……waffle waffle waffle “International Consortium of investigative Journalists” waffle” linked to” waffle “Suspected off” . I have never witnessed such blatant arrogance, my god that woman needs to get over herself, shes a complete amateur. Shes happy to try and ruin the NZ international image to justify her snooping and exposing peoples private lives all for a personal career boost. She smears and links with no direct pathways just speculation and innuendo followed with “not a good look”. This is the media, a new world socialist order determined to undermine and abuse anyone not on the team and they all pat each other on the back and hope for a media award next year. How do they think what they do is of any real importance? my drain layer who cleaned up my septic tank contributes to society a tonne more than these soy latte eco packed Ponsonby numpties but because they rule the airways we get their smug faces blasted into our lives constantly and told what to think and feel . Death to the MSM cant come soon enough.

    • Carl

      Not even a mention of it on 3 news. Brilliant.

      • Misfit

        one news lead with it, someones trying to justify her existence lol

        • Can’t believe they are still trying to wring mileage out of that story.

          • Misfit

            she must have copped a fair bit of flack for the flop so here she is going labour styles and doubling down on her crusade.

        • Gazza

          I don’t think they would want her back in Ireland , and Dunne wont talk to her anymore

        • niggly

          And as soon as it appeared as the leading headline story on One News …. I switched over to TV3’s Newshub (and TVNZ lost another viewer).

      • Gazza

        Even those muppets have realised this is an absolute load of B/S they will be thinking thank heavens they weren’t asked to be part of consortium

    • Somnambulist

      But they’re not smart enough to realise that with every irrelevant hit job such as this they alienate themselves from a mass audience more. They might be happy in an echo chamber, but once their advertisers see what’s going on it won’t be positive for their salaries.

    • pisces8284

      Not enough news channels to choose from, plus they don’t know that I have changed channels or muted them.

      • XCIA

        I prefer to watch proper nonsense now – re-runs of ‘Allo ‘Allo at 6pm on UK TV.

        • MaryLou

          That’s not nonsense though, that’s…. genius!

          • XCIA

            Yes, its still good after all these years! Much better than being excercised and miserable watching what passes for news.

          • pisces8284

            True, you have seen most of it during the day on line

          • XCIA

            Exactly! Most of what you need to know is right here.

      • Gazza

        I think we should all start listening to Larry willams at 6PM , he is level headed , hey Larry no more holidays please , I hate the alternative

      • sheppy

        Just don’t listen or watch any news especially in the evening, life’s better, the TV doesn’t get a boot through it and you get time to do something more fun instead. I gave up on evening NZ news years ago when I realised how biased they were. Never regretted it.

    • sandalwood789

      “International Consortium of investigative Journalists” – wow, how important-sounding *that* is. If I remember correctly Hager is a member.

      I’m a member of the International Consortium of Bearded Men – “ICBM”. *Much* more menacing.

      • Gazza

        NZ has the weak link , its called , Hagar and Co , heck , that sounds like are terrible Lawyers office that is into dodgy trusts , sheez , has any body check that out

        • Cadwallader

          More like a firm of funeral directors. Young Hager has a certain cadaverous air about him.

          • Gazza

            LOL

    • kayaker

      Urrrgggghhh indeed! I saw her being interviewed on One tonight (in the debating chamber of all places). She was jiggling all over the place, then ended the interview like – “my name is Andrea Vance …and this is my picture”

      • Misfit

        her facebook page has a dismal 248 likes, barely a comment on any of her posts and just a handful of likes. her self confessed pedestal she has put herself on appears to be a delusion where she thinks she has any sort of impact on anything and people actually listen to her. She may very well be mentally ill, I presume terminal narcissism .

        • Huia

          They probably don’t all ‘like’ her Misfit, but liking someone is the only way you can comment on their site I think.
          I know I had to ‘like’ Little Angry on Facebook when I really don’t like him at all, just have the urge to stick it to him every now and again when he makes yet another stupid statement, his adoring fan’s loving comments really do get stuck in my craw so that requires a bit of vinegar thrown into the mix.
          The fan club then call a troll, me! a troll. The nerve of them, and I stand by that statement too.

      • Bryan

        that’s sounds like she is a candidate for 7 days this Friday and knowing those guys they will tear it to peices haha

    • R&BAvenger

      Primes New : no mention at all.

    • sheppy

      Such a pity she can’t be exported back to the News of the World, they specialised in phone hacking so she would fit back in a treat with Saint Nicky, repeated handler of stolen goods.

    • Mick Ie

      International Consortium of Investigative Journalists:-
      “Center for Public Integrity which includes 165 investigative journalists in over 65 countries who work together on “issues such as “cross-border crime, corruption, and the accountability of power.”
      How ironic that the ICIJ’s investigations on crime and corruption within the Panama Papers is due to the fact they are in receipt of stolen information.

      • hsvmaloo

        Exactly, but according to them the Panama Papers are the result of a massive leak. Hypocrites.

  • Tony Norriss

    I see tonight TVNZ has dropped Hagar from their list of associates involved in this non-investigative journalism. I wonder if he has done something to piss off TVNZ, or if TVNZ is getting major push-back from viewers for including Hagar.

    • Quinton Hogg

      He was mentioned in the intro. No reference to him after that.
      The piece fell into the yeah so what category.

    • Nige.

      Im off them. with Barry gone and Sam Hayes being slotted in i am going to tend to gravitate towards 3.

      • pisces8284

        I really tried. but husband switched back

    • Alfred12

      He was mentioned by Simon Dallow as “Nicky Hagar investigative journalist” I’m with Nige, time to change especially after listening to AV’s irrelevant rant. How does the seemingly fleeting involvement of NZ warrant her nonsense being the opening item on the 6pm news.

      • MarcWills

        Who is the producer of One “News”? Here is where final responsibility should be sheeted. I look forward to the day that the TVNZ directors wake up to their declining audience of intelligent (and spending) viewers and make some changes to their front-line program.

        • niggly

          I wonder if the One “News” producer was one of the genius’s at TVNZ who thought it would be a great idea to hire a “foreign” accented reporter who has the voice characteristic’s of an excited school girl on speed? Makes for great TV news viewing trying to decipher what she is saying, not!

    • Gazza

      Really , I can tell you Thomas that Dallow mentioned Hagar as part of the filthy few

  • Usaywot

    I smell a great big stinking rat. Why do TVNZ keep insisting on this “collaboration” nonsense. They have never done it on any other story and you can bet your bottom dollar there has been plenty of collaboration on other stories. No, it is clear that nasty little spoilt brat, family trust, weasel is holding something over them. Let’s all hope the truth comes out in time. As for the latest expose…ffft! What a complete fizzer. I hope Geoff Cone gets his dander up about being smeared too.

    • Misfit

      its official, they even have their own web site, link to it…https://www.icij.org/

    • Bluemanning

      A collaboration means one doesn’t have to take total responsibility and can pass the buck. Socialism 101 :-)

    • Second time around

      It seemed like a big non story, the law firm having dissociated themselves from the crooked politicians some time before Panama was ever suspected of being a central American republic. The IRD does not give media releases, so any story there could have been was still born. All that remains is for TVNZ to dissociate themselves from this International Commission with its commy sounding name, and that German newspaper which didn’t get to publish the Hitler diaries. Even Andy has not been outraged this time around.

  • Huia

    It was interesting at my quilting group today.
    A lot of different ages and different walks of life. We got to discussing the current American race, Trump got the thumbs down from almost everyone, but what was interesting were the women who are better read and more inclined to investigate something further rather than believing what they read in the papers, were able to see the reasons Trump was appealing to more and more people as more corruption in Washington comes to the fore, none of the Trump haters had any idea of so many things, just the hair and Hillary’s propaganda which they had believed implicitly.
    We then veered onto NZ Politics and the Media, one woman stoutly and loudly claimed she and her husband had always voted Labour and always would, I suggested she voted for what was best for NZ when the time arrived and don’t get stuck on one party.
    What was 100% agreed by everyone in the room was they were all sick to death of the media hype and Labour’s constant negativety being rammed down our throats by the media and Angry Little Andrew, sick of the Panama papers idiocy, just really sick of the nonsense.
    Hopefully they may take todays conversation with them into the next election.

    • JEL51

      Wow! you should be the recipient of Today’s Bravery Award. It is interesting how people just accept what they see on the box without question. Different workplaces like those in shopping malls have endless music playing all day, nothing to stimulate the intellect. My hairdresser is always thirsty for updates & discussion as she tires of of the mindless conversation about yesterdays TV One coverage, grandchildren & diets. Eight hours is a long day if you are surrounded by idiots.

    • Gazza

      And the final starw that might break little angry Andys back , is him suggesting we will just deny the TTPA , how does he think that will go with well informed workers , especially the ones in Agri business or exporting .

    • Michelle

      l find it scary how little some seemingly intelligent people really know,
      some still buy the Herald and read that like a bible and watch the news
      a few lately have stopped watching the news as it is so negative but they don’t go looking for the real news

  • Cadwallader

    I watched a political debate here in Western Australia last night. Believe me we are so lucky to have JK! Turnbull is about as interesting as a cigar store Indian and Shorten speaks like an oily and sad funeral director. At least he doesn’t snap like a union thug though. The platitudes were bouncing around like a sixth formers’ debate and the commentator made Paddy Gower look like Brad Pitt.

  • Vlad

    If you want to see a small and simple example of failed journalism, check out this link to a story published and promoted on the Herald site:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11647519

    The report makes a number of completely unsubstantiated attacks on KFC as an employer; quotes extensively and without question from the Unite Union, and includes a call to strike from the union. What it lacks is any attempt to verify the claims made by Unite; any attempt to contact KFC for a response to this attack and any evidence at all that the reporter who cut and pasted this into the public domain understands what it means to be a journalist.

    This is what will bring them down.

    • Frank N Further

      Seems that KFC will have to investigate more automation in their stores for ordering / preparation (ala Macca’s) and less employees.

  • Left Right Out

    have I missed something or is cows4me mia?? I enjoy his comments

    • MaryLou

      He’s on holiday I think – too busy for us!

      • Usaywot

        Oh I’m pleased. He’s missed.

      • Left Right Out

        Then I shouldn’t complain… I’m headed to the Gold Coast on Wednesday….. Looking for sun on the first day of winter

        • Nige.

          http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/05/nige-strikes-back-depth-commenters-quiz/

          “Where did Left Right Out say he was going on holiday this week?”

          edit. corrected link

          • Wasapilot

            My new favourite quiz Nige.

          • Jude

            That went completely beneath my radar! I managed 6/10 . I must have been very distracted or busy that day?

          • Nige.

            6/10? That’s crazy high.

          • Jude

            I was guessing most! I might have to start doing a bit more wild guesses with my rugby picks!

          • Wasapilot

            Sorry to say Jude, I got 6/10 as well, and I knew the answers to those 6.

            I am willing to swap place with you on the footy picking competition, as I am sure HookerPhil would.

          • Jude

            Those picks are getting very tricky! We are playing the the Blues in July so that will be a big game. There is a Rugby Tours Tipping that I signed up for. Maybe our Whale team could sign up as a team?

          • Wasapilot

            Just made my picks for that Jude

          • Jude

            Is the Whaleoil team automatically enrolled ?
            I have a feeling I am making a right muppet of myself by asking , but oh well?

          • Wasapilot

            That makes me a muppet too Jude, I have no idea.

          • Nige.

            Close your eyes and have someone throw a dartboard at you

          • Jude

            Very funny you should say that! Just have hung up a dart board and I am figuring out how to protect the rest of the wall from rogue darts.The girls and I require a lot of practice.

    • Wasapilot

      Last I heard he was on holiday in the South Island, Wanaka, the Quuenstown IIRC.

      I am sure he will be back.

    • pisces8284

      I hope he’s not on the naughty chair

    • Nige.

      http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/05/nige-strikes-back-depth-commenters-quiz/

      “Where did Left Right Out say he was going on holiday this week?”

  • Gazza

    How stupid do the investigative collaboration of the insipid media , this Panama papers we to show us just how vile our government and their rich mates are , and what has actually been mentioned apart form Greenpeace being vile trust holders , absolutely nothing

  • Gazza

    I note the quarry that Clare Curran is fighting tooth and nail and stooped to interfering with judicial process , is actually completely owned by the amalgamated unions , there is 1000 shares and one share holder , that is the amalgamated unions , that means that Curran is fighting over one of her Labour party bosses , by the way Calvin Fisher was a Labour candidate in the 80s , but I cant remember which electorate

    • RockinBob625

      Someone tell the Greens, they love a quarry.

      So if Curran manages to kill the quarry off, then she will reduce the asset value of the Union who are a key supporter of the Labour party for which she stands.

      Yep, makes sense.

      • Gazza

        She is pretty thick , she probably does not realise its the unions and her masters , I hope it isn’t owned in a foreign trust , but seriously , I went to the Saddle views estate Ltd , and that what it said 1000 shares one shareholder , and that shareholder is amalgamated unions ,

  • Left Right Out

    Went for a family drive to the snow yesterday…… was the first time our 1yo had seen or played in it….. she loved it so much

    This is a very low Lake Lyndon

    • Left Right Out

      She was just so happy……

      • Mrs_R

        What an absolute cutie. It’s been years since ours were that little all bundled up in their snow gear. That photo will mean more when you look back and wonder where the time went :)

  • Disinfectant

    I would hope that everyone who visits this site reads the poem; “The Stranger by Rudyard Kipling”.

    No one who does will be disappointed.

  • Nige.

    I went to show some people the story about the gorilla and the kid footage. Very hard to find footage that hasn’t had the more violent parts cut out

  • Isherman

    Well well, it seems Minto has crawled out from under his rock upon hearing that a NZ trade delegation, along with dear ol Fran O’Sullivan, is off to Israel for an innovation expo, and he is most displeased. Wearing his PSN / BDS hat, he warns us that any business or science agreements that might transpire from this trip will be targeted by the NZ BDS movement. I think that means they are supposed to be worried somehow.
    In any case, I very much look forward to Fran’s reports that the trip has been successful, lucrative and and enjoyable for both countries representatives, and that we can eke out some good deals with those clever Israeli’s, and I likewise look forward to the haters and hypocrites in their various guises becoming either incandescent with rage or inconsolable with grief upon hearing that things have gone so swimmingly well.

    • MaryLou

      Is it simply that it is Israel that is upsetting him, or does he have something more specific in mind?

      • Isherman

        No, if it involves Israel in any way, shape or form, it can only be bad to him and his ilk. That’s why he was was able to justify in his own mind the harassment of a visiting tennis player who had absolutely zero involvement in politics. He tried to justify it by saying that she was a legitimate target because she had served in the olive green of the IDF, as do all Israeli’s, with some exceptions. It’s almost an ideological requirement for such types, completely irrational of course, but you will never convince them of that. At the same time, they cannot bring themselves to admit that there might just just be a few inconvenient facts about their Palestinian freinds that have contributed in no small way to the conflict between them. In short, to their mind it really is as simplistic as this – Israel = Bad, Palestine = Good…end of.

        • Nige.

          I met the sister of the woman who was up the tree with him. She (the charged sister) didn’t know what it was all about and said she was sucked in like a cult follower. Very embarrassed apparently.

          • Isherman

            I’d believe it. And this is why it’s almost,- no actually, impossible to have a rationale discussion with such types about the history of the conflict. As your example illustrates, the majority of the acolytes of this cause celebre have absolutely no real understanding of it other than the half truths, mis-information and one sided propaganda than what the apologists have fed them. And they might wonder why, the first rule of the Palestinian playbook is to internationalise the conflict…it’s to propagate a particular narrative and suck as many dreary eyed lefty idealists into it as possible so as to avoid confronting the dispute on its actual merits. Why do you think the Arab world has done so little for the Palestinians….it’s because it has become a handy stick to beat Israel with, and the more western converts they can entice to the cause…the better. Some states though, are finally starting to see that this is both a futile and counter productive course of action, that causes the suffering of the Palestinians for no gain to anybody.

        • XCIA

          I often wondered who or what made it possible for violent anti establishment mongrels such as Minto to teach the vulnerable young minds in our schools.

          • Gazza

            He was tied up in the urewera raids where they were practising for terrorist raids on the PM of the day

  • D.Dave

    On occasions my family wears the brunt of my commentating, but they are well versed in just sighing, and rolling their eyes. Someone correct me, if they want to. Isn’t a “transgender toilet” just another name for a Unisex dunny? Or am I just being too simplistic?

    • Abjv

      Only those who identify as transgender should use it. Unisex means a male or a female may have been there before you. With a transgender toilet you can be safe in the knowledge that it has been a male or female transgender in there before you.

      Where are the toilets for people that identify themselves as being a giant squid?

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