Whaleoil General Debate

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  • Cadwallader

    I just heard Mike Hosking give the precious ones at Mediaworks a flaying and deserved it was! He accused them of narcissistic childishness etc… I can only hope whoever replaces Mr Weldon takes early heed and finishes off the job with a sharp axe. The photograph of Barry and McRoberts carting celebratory liquor into the building ought never be lost as it sums up the lack of decency and character of those self-righteous clowns.
    The Weldon departure may be just the event to turn the public away from the msm and engender a healthy skepticism, such as is evident on a daily basis at WO. The hindrance is that too many players in the msm are convinced of their own uniqueness and importance so it may not be a prompt change.
    How Hosking can manage to be polite to the likes of Smalley in his stable is a genuine wonder. Her mindless presentations at ZB are diametrically opposed to those of Hosking and cheapen the brand.

    • Lemuzz

      Weldon was put there to do a job. Get Mediaworks make a profit or shut it down. If it cant make a profit all staff will be laid off. Simple.

    • kayaker

      To make matters worse, the photo of Barry and McRoberts was staged. It wasn’t like they were snapped by a passer-by. Very tacky.

  • Isherman

    The Turkish presidents grip on power has been tightened with the resignation of his PM Ahmet Davuoglu. Quicky heading to a one man rule with absolute power, not a good sign.

  • R&BAvenger

    Was at a meeting last night. Talk around surprise at Trump’s success but feeling that he was tapping into discontent with US politics and with 8 long years of Obama who over promised and has under-delivered.

    Majority of the dozen or so people felt economy was doing well, best in our life times (Middle aged 50 somethings). Latest report from Tony Alexander at BNZ, backs the sentiment.


    “The key factor however behind strong confidence is strong jobs growth. Employment has risen 2.0% in the past year or by 47,000 people. Growth was 1.2% in the March quarter and 1% in the December quarter so underlying annualised growth is running above 4.5% which is very strong. Full-time employment has risen 2.4% the past year while part-time employment has gained a lesser 0.6%. That is very positive.

    The ANZ’s monthly survey released last Friday shows that a net 13% of employers plan hiring more people.

    This is above the average reading of a net 8%. Thus it seems reasonable to expect that firm jobs growth will continue in the near future.”

    • Isherman

      It has to be said that comparatively we are doing OK at the moment, but we would be wise to keep in mind the mid term outlook globally. Despite what some proponents of isolationism think, we are reliant on the global picture holding up, and any downturn or protracted period of low growth will have an impact on us.

      • Raibert

        Not really sure the effect of the dairy price downturn has flowed through yet. Also a slow down in tourism over winter would mean our two main sources of income dropping. Not really a good look, but then we can always import more economic migrants I suppose.

    • Raibert

      What I find interesting about the fact that Trump and Clinton will face off for the US Presidency is that the media continue to tell us that they are the most disliked candidates in history. This is another blatant case of the media trying to influence public opinion when obviously these two are preferred by those making the selections. Oh if only the media stuck to reporting the facts!

      • johnandali

        If you listened to ZB talkback after midnight this morning, the talkback host, Bruce somebody, opened the conversation by saying that John Key was the worst prime minister in New Zealand’s history. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. And people rang him and told him that his introduction was the best they have ever heard. I think it’s time that ZB looked around for a new host.

  • Cadwallader

    We have a new disease to parallel KDS. it is TDS. The “T” referring to Trump.
    The squealing left in the US have begun to attack Trump for the actions of his sons. There is a photo now doing the rounds of two men who are said to be Trump’s sons hold a dead leopard with the assumption they hunted and killed it. They possibly did. There are no dates attached to the photo nor a precise location. At best this is innuendo at worst a fabrication. The distinction won’t matter to Trump’s opposers in much the same way the left msm in NZ toss whatever muck at JK’s admirable children as takes their fancy on any given day…bastards!

  • Jude

    A joke since it is Friday!

    4 friends (Ladies) meet 30 years after school at reunion.

    One goes to get the food while the other 3 start to talk about how successful their sons became.

    No. 1 says her son studied economics, became a banker and is so rich,

    he gave his best friend a Ferrari.

    No. 2 said her son became a pilot, started his own airline became so

    rich, he gave his best friend a jet.

    No. 3 said her son became an engineer, started his own development company became so rich, he build his best friend a castle.

    No 4. came back with a plate full of food and asked what the buzz is

    about. They told her they were talking about how successful their sons became and asked her about her son.

    She said her son is gay and he works in a gay bar. The other 3 said she must be very disappointed with her son for not

    becoming successful.

    “Oh noooo!!” said the Lady, “He is doing good. Last week on his birthday he got a Ferrari, a jet and a castle from 3 of his boyfriends”.

    All the 3 Ladies fainted…. ???

  • Wheninrome

    Retirement villages, rest homes. The cost thereof. I was thinking of Kiwi Saver, down the track all those with Kiwi Saver balances will be buying retirement homes, losing 30 + % then going into resthomes and paying (at todays figures) approx. $50,000.00 a year for care. Kiwi Saver what a wonderful thing for the government or should I save the likes of Ryman, Somerset et al. A guaranteed income stream. So, yes, Kiwi saver is definitely saving for your retirement.

    • johnandali

      It’s an amazing system that is being used by retirement villages all over the country. Your elderly retired parent purchases an apartment in the village. The parent has to provide new domestic equipment (washing machine, dryer, fridge, dishwasher drawer). In addition to purchasing the apartment (it’s not actually a purchase – it’s purely the right to occupy it), the occupant has to pay a weekly fee of well over $100 p.w. to the retirement village. At some stage, your parent gets to a condition that they have to move into the village hospital on a permanent basis (and the hospitalisation has to be paid for either by the occupant or by the State subject to a means test), and they need to move out from the apartment. At that time, all that new stuff is returned to your parent, and the apartment gets new carpeting and curtains, notwithstanding that your parent may have only been there for a very short time, and until a buyer is found for the apartment, the weekly fee is still payable. I believe that the new owner has to fork out the cost of replacing all the gear that has been taken out. When the apartment is on-sold to the new owner your parent gets back 2/3 of what they paid regardless of what the new occupant has to pay. To me, there is something really wrong about all of this. Which are the most profitable businesses in NZ? They are the retirement villages. They successfully squeeze money from vulnerable retired people. I don’t like the concept.

  • Jerseyman

    It is great to see that Yachting NZ’s have been rewarded for their support for the Israeli yachties over their disgusting treatment at the World Youth Champs in Indonesia. The next World Youth Championships have been awarded to NZ.

    • FornaK

      What happened in Indo JMan?

      • Jerseyman

        Indonesian hosts (Islamic Nation) denied the Israelis their right to compete under their Nation’s flag. NZ Yachting led the unsuccessful protests over their treatment.

  • twittertit


    Wow. People get offended by the smallest of things these days. Is this the definition of micro-aggression?

    I never met my grandparents or cousins. I don’t cry every time an advert reminds me that they’re dead/live overseas.

    • Woody

      Oh dear, my mum died in the 70s and I would tend to smile if I received an email like that but Farmers don’t communicate with me as a lot of years ago I told them to kindly place their account in a dark smelly place.

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      While I certainly wouldn’t get offended or upset and like Woody probably would tend to smile – mum died in 92.

      However what I AM upset about is that I have a Farmers account and didn’t receive an email. Do they figure I’m too old to have a living mother? Hey my Dad would catch ’em out as he’s still going strong(ish).

  • Sally

    First world problem- no power in Mairangi Bay. Now how to open garage door manually – how strong am I?

    • It’s worse when you come home and the power is out and you always go in through the garage…. :

    • XCIA

      I was at New World in the Albany Mall when the power cut happened. Boy, people are easily excited these days, the reaction was like being in a plane falling out of the sky.

  • Quiet morning here. Are you all getting your Duck Murdering gear ready?

    • Nic C

      Mai Mai Pete… ‘Murdering’ is an inflammatory way to put it!

      • I once titled something “My my, my Mai Mai!”

        Beat that.

        • Nic C

          HaHa… nice. Not even gonna try sir

    • Isherman

      It is rather..
      As for Duck, Meh, far more partial to a nice bit of Pheasant myself.

      • Don’t think I ever had pheasant. Must remedy this sometime.

        • Isherman

          Very nice when roasted properly, but cooked badly it can resemble dry chicken. A few herbs under the skin with some butter is the way to go, and its best roasted on the bone.

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      I thought that it was quiet earlier too, not being a hunter (and obviously of VERY short memory as been mentioned on here) totally forgot that there’s them that like sitting in a cold, damp Mai Mai at the crack of dawn, look forward to even?!

      There’s naught so queer as folk as them up North (UK) would say.

    • Left Right Out

      Oh Great… Duck Shooting starts…. that means the usual calls for it to be banned….. animal welfare groups will be out protesting …. and the usual MSM turning it all into a huge story about nothing…..

  • Isherman

    Speaking on BBC Question Time, Labour MP and staunch Corbynista Lisa Nandy fails to deny his leadership is under real threat if the Party does badly in local council elections.

  • Isherman

    I’ve seen some activity this morning, so if she’s fleeing in terror she’s been logged in and reading WO on the run:)

    • Crowgirl

      Lol you’re on to it – no lurking possible ?

  • Crowgirl

    Yep ML all good thanks. Fort McMurray is north of us, but most of the evacuees are coming down to where we are in Edmonton. Worrying times ?

    • MaryLou

      You seem to have a lot of natural “stuff” happening in your neck of the woods. Around this time last year, I think it was tornadoes, or a mega storm or somesuch!

      • Crowgirl

        Never a dull moment!

        The tornadoes were cool – the alerts came over the TV and interrupted the programming. Never experienced that before lol

  • Bluemanning
  • Melissa

    An Auckland judge has asked the probation service to consider a community based sentence for two islamist men for having and distributing violent Islamic videos. One of the men has been arrested before for knife related offences. I’m gobsmacked! What will it take, a few terrorism acts here in NZ before these soft judges realise that these guys are a danger to society and deal with them accordingly?Do they not see what is happening in Europe and Australia? A community based sentence – good God!