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Howard Stern told his radio listeners a story about sheep in a passionate effort to explain his views on gun control. Apart from the foul language, I think it is a pretty good analogy and one worth sharing. If nothing else, the recent murder of a British politician with a homemade gun shows that living in a country with the tightest gun control in the world is no guarantee of safety. A gun is the greatest equalizer. A small woman like myself can actually win if a strong man with a knife or club comes after me. If he has a gun then at least I have 50-50 odds. To be honest, I would even be happy to be allowed to carry pepper spray but our government won’t even allow me that level of protection. 

Imagine you’re a defenseless sheep in a pasture filled with hundreds of other sheep, all like sitting ducks when a bloodthirsty wolf appears in the dead of night.

And you hope the shepherds and sheep dogs will protect you and your family from the ruthless beasts – which are slaughtering and eating all your neighbors.

But there’s a big problem.

The shepherds and sheep dogs are nowhere in sight.

They’re protecting other defenseless sheep on the other side of the pasture.

What do you do?

… We’re sheep. We’re sitting here, ‘La, da, da, da, da. I’m gonna work hard. I love my family. Baaah!’

“Now let’s say I walked up to a sheep herd. And they know at night, every night the wolves pick off a couple of them. What if I went up to the sheep and said, ‘You want to have a shot at the wolves? I’m gonna give you a pistol. You can actually even the playing field with these wolves whose fangs are out – you could shoot them and save your family.’ ‘Well, Baaah, we’re not gonna do that! We don’t want to fight ba-a-a-a-a-ck. He didn’t hurt us. He only hurt the family down the street. And the shepherds will protect us. The sheep dogs are out there. They’ll protect us.’

“Well, the sheep dogs are protecting you, but some of them can’t be with you. There’s not a sheep dog for every citizen, and a wolf is still eating one of you every night. ‘Baaah, I know what. Let’s remove all the guns from the sheep.’ What? There’s an idea! Let’s take back all the guns from the people who might be willing to shoot the wolves.

“So then you go, wait a second. What if we had a completely gun-free zone?

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“Now, I’m gonna tell you about the most gun-free zone on the planet. It happened during 9/11. It was on a plane. You know you can’t get a gun on a plane. It’s completely gun free. So what did the wolves do? They said, ‘This is great! We’ll just kill the sheep with box cutters. They went on the plane with box cutters, and all the sheep went, ‘Baaah!’

“Now if there had been an Air Marshal on that plane, a whole f—ing other thing would have gone down. There wouldn’t have been no 9/11.

“See, the wolves are always plotting. They’ll use box cutters. They’ll use an airplane and fly it right into a building. They don’t need AR-15s.

“Nazi Germany – which, by the way, didn’t happen 1,000 years ago – it happened within my dad’s lifetime. It’s not that long ago. Can you imagine if the Jews, at least when the Nazis were banging on the door, if they had a couple of pistols and AR-15s to fight the Nazis? If Anne Frank’s father had a f—ing gun? Maybe at least he could have taken a few Nazis out.

“Now why would the sheep say, ‘Oh, we’ve got an answer to all of the terrorism, all these bad wolves that are coming after us. We’ll just hand in all our guns. We’re gonna hand them in. Baaah. You know who will protect us? The government, or the police’?

“That’s a bad f—ing idea!

“Now I don’t like violence. I don’t like any of this stuff, but I consider myself a sheep. And I want the police to protect me. I support the police. I want the government to protect me.

“But guess what? Most of your politicians all have private security. … So they’re OK. Those are sheep that are very well protected. You, on the other hand, you’re a sitting duck. If you’re a sitting duck, do you want a fighting chance or not? I don’t understand it.

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… I’m not for taking away people’s rights….In France, they’ve done it very effectively. The population is not armed, but unfortunately the wolves are.

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  • Shalice

    Unfortunately, a lot of people don’t see it this way. I don’t know why. Maybe absence of logic.
    The criminals will always get guns anyway.

  • David Kerr

    Criminals don’t seem to fear a wet bus ticket slapped on them either, overhaul the justice system and bring back sentences that would make people think twice about having an illegal weapon. Or any weapon, or inflicting crimes against innocents. Take sentencing out of judges control, have set punishments for certain crimes

    • kloyd0306

      Except that criminals don’t observe laws…….
      ………….and neither do Muslim terrorists.

      Stern is obnoxious yet correct – not one gun involved in the 9/11 attack, or the Boston Marathon attack, or the London underground bombing attack.

      The common link is Muslim terrorism.

      • OneTrack

        And a religion which explicitly says, the way to nirvana is by killing kuffars. Why the left think they are lying about their religion, I do not understand.

  • johcar

    In France, they’ve done it very effectively. The population is not armed, but unfortunately the wolves are.

    Lucky that they are LONE wolves then, eh….

  • tas

    Guns are not equalizers. They favour the person with the element of surprise. Having a gun in your holster won’t help you if the mugger has his in hand. There are stories of people with open-carry guns being mugged – and having their gun stolen.

    • cows4me

      Tell that to the tens of millions murdered after their guns were seized.

      • tas

        I don’t know what point you’re trying to make. Are you referring to the (bogus) claim that gun ownership could have prevented the Holocaust?

        If you believe that gun ownership will protect you from the government, why are you afraid of the government taking away your guns? Surely owning guns will protect you from the government taking your guns, no?

        • cows4me

          The government regulates arms laws and more importantly those that sale ammunition. You are dead right, the right to be armed should be without question,. Please tell me why I should not own firearms ? Please tell me why people that are not elected by popular vote should have my right to tell me I should surrender this right.

        • waldopepper

          while gun ownership may not be the panacea that protects you from government, its safe to say that the lack of it puts you at the mercy of government. have a look at these stats. in the last 100 years over 55 million people murdered by their own governments.

          In 1929, the Soviet Union instituted gun control. Between 1929 and 1953, an estimated 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and killed.

          In 1938, Germany instituted gun control. Between 1939 and 1945, an estimated 13 million Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, mentally ill, Catholics and various other minorities, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and killed.

          In 1935 China instituted gun control. Between 1948 and 1952, an estimated 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and killed.

          In 1956 Cambodia instituted gun control. Between 1975 and 1977 over one million “educated people”, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and killed.

          In 1964, Guatamala established gun control. Between 1964 and 1981, over 100,000 Mayans, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and killed.

          In 1970, Uganda instituted gun control. Over the next nine years over 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and killed.

          Bosnia, Kosovo, Rwanda, Zimbabwe all had gun control laws. How did that work out for the people? I guess you could ask a survivor, if you can find one.

    • spanishbride

      In the gay club the terrorist got off the first shot for sure. If members inside the club had been armed one or more of them could have taken cover and then taken him out. The death toll would have been substantially reduced.

      • tas

        Sure, if every american carried a gun, mass shootings would be a thing of the past. However, the total number of gun homicides would skyrocket. Most shootings are single-victim.

    • roblin

      If the muppet knew that some of the club visitors had been armed then he could have been even too scared to think shooting people there.

      • tas

        It’s deceptive to frame the debate about guns only in terms of mass shootings like in Orlando. You are far more likely to be shot accidentally than shot by a terrorist. Having more guns in nightclubs may deter terrorists, but will significantly increase accidents.

    • OneTrack

      If all of the people at the gay club had been armed, how far would the jihadi have got? Yes, he might have surprised a few but then the return fire would have started.

      • tas

        Of course, if everyone in the nightclub had a gun, there would have been fewer fatalities. But how many people will get shot by drunk people with guns instead?

  • Nige.

    I see a president in the making there.

    The great thing about Stern is that he just blurts out what he thinks impulsively. He can’t help saying exactly what he thinks and wants to know. He’s like a real life version of liar liar.

    • Superman

      Just like Donald Trump.

      • Nige.

        Perhaps Stern could be his running mate!

  • cows4me

    The constant calls for disarming the population has never been about a governments love to see it’s citizens live without fear from their fellow citizens it’s about the governments fear, and if they claim otherwise they are bloody liars. Governments no longer fear the people as it should be the people now fear the actions of their governments and don’t think for a moment we are any different. If there is such a thing as human rights then the right to self defense should be right up there. The constant calls for disarmament are really attacks on our freedoms.

    • tas

      The government is not afraid of a bunch of idiots with guns. The government has tanks, helicopters, fighter jets, submarines, nukes, etc.

      If the government was afraid of gun owners, it would be too scared to take away their guns, but it clearly isn’t.

      • cows4me

        You are confused tas, the government does not wish to disarm the people yet. The government, I believe can see the benefit of a well armed society. Do you think the government will come to get us gun loving idiots ?

  • spanishbride

    Yeah because that makes so much sense.

  • JEL51

    Sheep, along with horses & cattle have lived in this wolf-free zone of New Zealand for 150 plus years but where possible they still retain the protective instinct of herding together for safety sake.
    Are we to believe that the collective intelligence of the Left ‘visionary’ outlook (thanks Eric Allen Bell) is beneath that of these wonderful domesticated animals?
    I think the answer is right there.

  • Teakay

    I am a licensed gun owner. I use this gun to control the rabbit and magpie population on my property. I don’t enjoy game shooting so don’t do that. The gun is kept in a one locked cabinet and the ammo in another. Not withstanding the practicalities of actually getting the gun ready to fire in an unexpected life threatening situation (like discovering an armed burglar in the middle of the night) I would have the greatest difficulty actually pulling the trigger.

    It seems to me that even if they were armed, it would be unlikely that the majority of the patrons of the Orlando nightclub would have had the mindset to be able to behave like the deranged individual who was attacking them. If this view is correct, then the reality is that when we make guns readily available we are simply making it easier for those who, for whatever reason, desire to harm us.

    • MaryLou

      Yes, I am in two minds over this. The article is correct in its logic, but…. the majority of us are not killers. We would hesitate. It might work in a seige scenario, but in a mugging or similar environment, I’m not sure it would necessarily save us. But then – neither would the Police if things were moving that quick.

      • spanishbride

        There is no point carrying a gun unless you have had training just as we wouldn’t buy a car if we didn’t have a license. You are trained to react not hesitate.

        • Teakay

          My training taught me to clearly identify my target and that the safety of other human beings is paramount. It sounds to me like you are talking about paramilitary style training which takes the debate to an entirely different level.

        • duve

          Plenty in South Auckland buy cars without having a licence.

      • Teakay

        I think the analogy fails because the wolfs’ motivation is to eat whereas the these killers have, often as children, had their minds distorted and twisted with religious teachings that specifically encourage the very harm to others that occurs. The guns and bombs etc are simply the tools. I cannot understand why we just allow this to happen and the problem won’t go away until we stop it.

    • spanishbride

      I disagree strongly. Nothing is more powerful that the human instinct to survive. Adults have scrambled over other adults and children in their haste to get out of a life threatening situation. If you corner a human being and they have the ability to fight back they will.I have never killed or hurt anyone in my life but given the correct circumstances I know what I am capable of. Unarmed I would do anything in my power to kill a person trying to kill my children.I would use anything close at hand.I think you underestimate yourself. It does not make you a bad person knowing that deep down we all have the capacity to defend ourselves even if that means killing another human being.

      • MaryLou

        But, SB, am I correct in recalling that you have had a fair bit of formal training in this regard? I can’t remember what, though. But I imagine it leave you somewhat better prepared mentally than most?

        • spanishbride

          I was a territorial soldier but I was a Signalman which is communications so we didn’t get any hand to hand combat training and only shot down a rifle range.

      • Teakay

        Sure, I get that but it makes a hell of a lot more sense to try to and deal with the cause of the problem so that we don’t have to make the choice in the first place. There is plenty of evidence to show that the individuals who commit these horrendous acts have been distorted and twisted by extremist religious teachings (of all persuasions). This is where we and our Governments need to focus our attention if we are ever to be prevent this murderous mayhem.

        • spanishbride

          Yes prevention, is a much better idea.Will NZ be different to Europe and Australia who are already having serious problems? We can only hope and vote for those who are prepared to do what needs to be done.

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