Unbelievably stupid from Joyce, Shifty Bill will be very annoyed

Steve Joyce made an unbelievably stupid hash of answering questions from Ron Mark in the house yesterday.

6. RON MARK (Deputy Leader—NZ First) to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his statements on the Clutha-Southland electorate office issue even if facts known to him make doing so extraordinarily difficult?

Mr SPEAKER: In so far as there may be prime ministerial responsibility, I call the Hon Steven Joyce on behalf of the Prime Minister.

Hon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Finance) on behalf of the Prime Minister: Those statements were not made in his capacity as Prime Minister.

Ron Mark: With respect to recent comments made by him in the media relating to texts sent by the former Minister of Finance that read “Everyone unhappy”, other than the Prime Minister, who else was he talking about?

Mr SPEAKER: Again, in so far as there may be prime ministerial responsibility—the Hon Steven Joyce on behalf of the Prime Minister.

Hon STEVEN JOYCE: Those statements were not made in his ministerial capacity.

Kris Faafoi: Different phone, was it?

Ron Mark: Good point. Since 18 May, can he categorically say that no current or former Minister has listened to the recording Mr Barclay offered to play to him, which allegedly talks about sex and illicit drug use?

Mr SPEAKER: Again, in so far as there may be prime ministerial responsibility, the Hon Steven Joyce, on behalf of the Prime Minister.

Hon STEVEN JOYCE: I doubt that any member would have been listening to that in their ministerial capacity.

Ron Mark: How can New Zealanders have confidence in a Prime Minister who, in his role as Deputy Prime Minister, told the media he had no knowledge of any tape, only to be countered shortly thereafter by the then Prime Minister, who told the media: “I only know what Bill told me.”?

Hon STEVEN JOYCE: I think the public can have confidence not just in the Prime Minister but in his Government. Indeed, they regularly show that they do have that confidence, and, of course, they will have the opportunity to reconsider that confidence and decide whether they continue with it in September. [Interruption]

What an idiot.

He has just stated that ministers have indeed listened to the so-called tapes, just not in their ministerial capacity.

This now has all the hallmarks of the Taito Phillip Field debacle with the Prime Minister and other ministers dancing a jig on the head of pin. The more they obfuscate the more they make Todd Barclay look like an angel and makes them look like a bunch of shifty, lying weasels.

Shifty Bill English will be squirming again and throwing his toys out of the cot. Steve Joyce better watch out because Shifty Bill is known to hold grudges for quite some time.

Then again, perhaps it wasn’t a mistake from Steve Joyce after all, maybe what we just witnessed was the knife go in. Now we get to watch Shifty Bill bleed out slowly.




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