Ben Shapiro won this contest of ideas about abortion at Berkeley

I loved my first year social and moral philosophy class at Waikato university because it was a contest of ideas and logic. I couldn’t get an A grade unless I was able to step by step, logically point out the flaws and weaknesses in the other side of the argument.

I debated hard issues like abortion with other students and most of them were able to do it without resorting to name calling or emotion. It was a genuine contest of ideas. It was hard work and we all had to really deeply think about the issues.

I remember at one point I thought that I could win the abortion debate if I could logically prove that the unborn child was human and therefore had the same right to life as I did. I soon learned that most opposing arguments were not based on whether the baby was human or not but were based on the superior rights of the mother. My argument then had to focus on the flaws in the ” my body my choice argument.”

Unborn baby 10-12 weeks

Conservative commentator Ben Shapiro masterfully handled a student’s claim that a first-trimester fetus isn’t human life during a Q&A session at his highly anticipated speaking event Thursday at the University of California, Berkeley.

[…] “I just wanted to know why exactly do you think a first-trimester fetus has moral value?” the unidentified student asked.

[…] “A first trimester fetus has moral value because whether you consider it a potential human life or a full-on human life, it has more value than just a cluster of cells. If left to its natural processes, it will grow into a baby.”
“So the real question is where are you gonna draw the line? Are you gonna draw the line at the heartbeat? Because it’s very hard to draw the line at the heartbeat. There are people who are adults who are alive because of a pacemaker and they need some sort of outside force generating their heartbeat.”
“Are you going to do it based on brain function? OK, well what about people who are in a coma? Should we just kill them?”
“The problem is that whenever you draw any line other than the inception of the child, you end up drawing a false line that can be applied to people who are adults. So either human life has intrinsic value or it doesn’t.”

[…] “We both agree that adult human life has intrinsic value — can we start from that premise?” Shapiro asked.

“I believe that sentience is what gives something moral value, not necessarily being a human alone,” the student replied. Sentience is the capacity to feel and perceive, or to reason morally.

“OK, so when you’re asleep, can I stab you?” Shapiro asked.

“I’m still considered sentient when I’m asleep,” the student said back.

“OK, if you are in a coma from which you may awake, can I stab you?” Shapiro asked again.

“Well, then, uhh, no,” the student answered. “That’s still potential sentience.”

“I agree it is potential sentience. You know what else is potential sentience? Being a fetus,” Shapiro declared to loud cheers.

[…] In response, the student explained he believes the “burden” that “unwanted” children have on potential parents should be weighed when considering abortion policy.

“Now you’re shifting the argument,” Shapiro told him. “I don’t believe that you being a burden on somebody is justification for them killing you.”

-The Blaze

 


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