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Steven Joyce’s $11.7 billion hole is now an open cast mine

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Steven Joyce was villified when he pointed out that the government’s proposed new spending would leave them with an $11.7 billion hole. Everyone called him out for it. Media people from everywhere ridiculed him. Even business writers refused to give him any credit. He was dismissed as being guilty of political mischief even though, at the time, he was the current minister of finance and probably had more idea of the true situation regarding government spending than just about everyone else.

But everyone else was infected at the time by stardust, and that included economists such as Cameron Bagrie. Here is quote from Bagrie in September 2017. quote.

ANZ chief economist Cameron Bagrie

Bagrie told Newshub there’s no hole.

“But [Labour] don’t have a lot of money to play with in the 2019 and 2020 budgets. They’ve basically computed up front to what they are going to do for three years. That’s fine but the wheels of government still need to turn and be funded.” end quote.

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Comedian Tim Batt promoted the new domain he bought on Twitter:

Brian and Hannah Tamaki’s new political party – Coalition New Zealand – will have to find a new domain name.
Kiwi comedian Tim Batt swooped in quickly on Thursday and bought the page.
“Guess who purchased,” he tweeted.

Batt told Stuff, once he saw news of the Tamakis new political party, he jumped at the opportunity to buy the domain name in a bid to “defend the cool position our country is in at the moment”.


Nickname Nick responds

We believe in free speech and both sides of the story here on Whaleoil, and we were pleased last night to see Nick’s response to my article. Here it is in full.

Well golly gosh, I never expected to attract such (fleeting) fame! If I may (and keeping in mind I am well aware of the rule about explaining) have a few words, I think you’ll end up appreciating what I have to say.

Firstly, you do misrepresent me somewhat by not posting the complete ‘collection’ of my tweets on this and the related matter. The main thrust was actually trying to get Franks to acknowledge he picked up that nickname from this website. For him to suggest he came up with the exact same nickname for the exact same person and in the exact same context as used on this site was implausible. To the max, brah.

You can tell me I’m wrong (I doubt anyone would own up to it) but I do believe that many (most? some?) WO contributors do attach a racist undertone to the term, and have that fairly and squarely in mind when they use it on her. You won’t convince me I’m wrong, I won’t convince you I’m right but hey…I won’t feel the need for police (sorry, I mean Armourguard) protection if you say nasty things about me when disagreeing.

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Security escort for Green MP Golriz Ghahraman after death threats

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National MP Judith Collins
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The Armageddon Rainbow

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When I was a child, a rainbow was something that gave me pleasure. According to my Sunday school teacher, it was the sign that God was watching over us and that we were being looked after by him.

To me, it was a magnificent display of nature that all was good in the world. God may or may not have been the architect; but, whoever was in charge of its creation was a very canny bloke indeed.

Now, my rainbow has been stolen. Misappropriated.

Like so many words and so many things these days, the purity and joy of words has been manipulated and denigrated. Symbols have been distorted and twisted into things that are not as I remember them to be.

I want my Rainbow back.

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Really? She didn’t respect Folau’s religion at all!

Ardern’s total lack of logic

Even when I was only 13 years old and the leader of a school debating team, I could have driven a ‘truck of peace’ through Ardern’s totally flawed logic.

Let’s look at her first statement:

These tech companies, I do not for a moment believe they wanted to see their platforms used for such a vile heinous act

PM Jacinda Ardern

The vile, heinous act was shooting, injuring and killing all those innocent people. The tech companies played no part in the violence. They did not cause the violence and their service did not enable or arm the terrorist to shoot, injure or kill those poor people.

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Helen Clark refuses to go away

Old snaggle tooth. Photoshopped image credit: Pixy

You know what they say… old soldiers never die, they simply fade away. I wish the same could be said about politicians. The really good ones (think John Key, Bill English, Steven Joyce, Jonathan Coleman) are snapped up once they leave politics and they never look back. The others hang around in the hope that they are still needed, not quite adjusting to the fact that they have been voted out and have to move on.

Helen Clark is the worst ever example of this particular phenomenon. quote.

Former Prime Minister Helen Clark has thrown her support behind a review of New Zealand’s hate speech laws and is calling for a social media watchdog to be established, to prevent the spread of extremism online.

She has also praised Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s Christchurch Call summit and says she has a real opportunity to “set the pace” when it comes to preventing violent extremism online. end quote.

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Helen Clark Foundation recommendations to monitor & penalise posters of ‘harmful content’

Transcript starts at 4:12.


This is a partial transcript of Jack Tame’s NZQ&A interview with Helen Clark and Kathy Errington (Executive Director of the Helen Clark Foundation) pertinent to the Helen Clark Foundation’s recommendations in its report “Anti-Social Media: Reducing the spread of harmful content on social networks”


Let’s talk about some of the suggestions in your report – how is New Zealand’s current social media regulation serving us?


So, at the moment we have a patchwork of legislation and agencies, and there’s big gaps in it. Most of the legislation predates the existence of social media and the parts that do provide exemptions for social media platforms. So, it’s sort of like a patchwork with big holes cut in it at the moment.


You want to see a regulatory body like the ones we have for broadcasting, like the ones we have for other printed forms of media, the Media Council and the BSA, how would that work for social media?


So, to start with what we want is for the government to at least review and bring our laws up to standard, and one way we propose that could be done is by having an independent regulator, similar to the BSA, that is of course regulating our conversation now and I don’t feel particularly constrained ah… by that body.

I don’t think it unduly limits freedom of speech but what the… what this regulator could do is agree a set of standards, have a process where public input could be gathered into where the lines are drawn. Because, like I said before, the current situation isn’t a free for all of free speech on social media.

They take content off all the time, ah… for example I’ve been in new mother’s groups and I have my baby and breastfeeding content was removed all the time because it violated rules on nudity and the… yeah… and I don’t agree with that. But I’d no forum where I had a right to be heard… to… to protest that, so what we are saying is we need democratic models of how this can be done.


As I see the report recommendations, they are not dissimilar to what is being looked at in the United Kingdom. You have the statutory duty of care, that is placed in law, on the social media companies, and you have a regulator who has general oversight. Are they exercising that duty of care? And the regulator probably should be able to investigate of their own accord.


And so, what do you do if they don’t?

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