Whaleleaks – Goff keeps on lying

Phil Goff gave an interview on bFM where he lied about the ECE/NZEI email harvesting.

He said:

PHIL GOFF: ?.But on the other thing on the website, yeah, that sort of thing happens, regretfully the National Party was involved in gaining information from that system, it’s not actually confidential information, it was a petition that people had signed about early childhood education, and it was some donations to the party in regard to the Stop Asset Sales campaign, but you know, obviously Whaleoil was threatening to divulge private information, I think the party, the National Party, although it’s been two hours downloading it from our site, warned them off from doing that.

Where do I start. The information was confidential information. We know this because the NZEI has complained to Labour about it. Labour had no right to that information, they stole it from the petition results. If they didn’t steal it then it was given to them by the NZEI, in which case they harvested the details themselves and passed it to Labour. Since Phil Goff doesn’t think that all those signatures and emails aren’t confidential then perhaps I should just publish the two csv files full of teachers email addresses that they left lying around on the internet. (Just so Phil knows what I am taking about the files are called?ece_postcards_d621c508caeee97e4a6adcb6445be714.csv and ece_postcards_9ebd3c5a3c97643dd445657547546cf2.csv . Go ahead Phil check to see if the NZEI wants those files put on the internet, again)

The petition was in the form of a postcard. Here it is:

ECE Postcard

Nowhere on that postcard, either side, is any?suggestion your personal?information is going to be stolen by Labour, or even given to them. The campaign isn’t a Labour party campaign and for Phil Goff to suggest that it is is yet another lie.

If Phil Goff doesn’t think donation information to a political party is confidential information then lord knows what he thinks is. But then again this is a man who lied about a comment by Don Brash in a private meeting with US officials.

Does he not know that Whaleoil, is me, it is not them. He should know, he refused to come on Close Up with me once. For the record and becasue Phil Goff would rather lie, the National party has not been in contact with me about this information, either before I broke the story nor after. As if I would listen to their advice anyway. He obviously hasn’t been checking out the smears by Trevor Mallard that says I am in the pay of Don Brash and the Act Party now. The two contentions of Labour can’t both be right.

I didn’t release the confidential inforamtion because this is not about the struggling person who donated $6.60 to Labour, it is about the fact that they allowed me and god knows how many other people to gain their information, including DoB information, 18,000 emails and 450 odd donations.

Labour can talk all they like to the Privacy Commissioner, they are the ones in breach not me.

The hilarious thing is that Phil Goff, in trying to smear National, tells the world that they let their opponents access their site for more than two hours.

Of course I was in their database and site for much longer than that, over several months. That doesn’t seem to matter a bit to Labour.

Phil Goff and Labour, from Chris Flatt and Moira Coatsworth chave handled and continue to handle this in the most apalling way. They show no contrition and prefer instead to lie and spin. There is no one else to blame for this huge breach of privacy other than themselves.

Well, we will just have to see what else comes out of the files I have won’t we.

Goff says he was joking

Phil Goff has said he was joking about calling for looters to be shot.


Wellington, March 10 NZPA – Labour leader Phil Goff joked that the army?should shoot looters stealing goods after the Christchurch earthquake in a
radio interview.

On radio station BFM on February 28, Mr Goff talked about meeting a man in?Linwood whose sister was killed in the quake, whose house had been badly
damaged but then it was ransacked by looters.

“I saw the army out in the street and I thought court martial, firing squads?you just can’t believe how low a small minority of people can get,” he told?the radio station.

Right wing blogger David Farrar highlighted the comment on twitter.

“Interesting that Phil Goff on radio said that army should shoot looters.?Wonder how his caucus feel about his law and order policy?” he wrote.

Mr Goff said it was clear he was joking.

“I was making the point that first of all I had absolute contempt for?anybody who would exploit other people’s misery at a time like this but I?was making a joke … It was obviously not intended to be taken seriously by?anyone other than the most dim-witted National Party blogger.”

However he stood by another remark during the interview about setting?looters to work with a shovel.

“I thought that people who were offending in that way … should be part of?the effort to clean up and help others as a form of restorative justice?rather than exploiting their fellow Cantabrians. They should be required to?carry out a sentence where they had to put something back into the?community.”


Quite apart from Phil Goff claiming to be joking about a situation where a person had lost their family member to the quake he really is now asking us to believe?the?unbelievable.

He not only suggested that looter be court-martialed and shot but also that perhaps some could be “shackled to shovels” and put to work. That is quite different from suggesting as he claims that they “should be part of?the effort to clean up and help others as a form of restorative justice”

Now bear in mind that it is Labour through Grant Robertson that have attacked Judith Collins for suggesting that criminals should go to court then be locked up for a very longtime with a cellmate. Phil Goff went further, he says he joked, about a situation where a family member has lost a family member and that looters should be court martialed and then shot but at the very least they should be shackled to a shovel. What Goff has suggested is of a magnitude far exceeding anything other than rabid bloggers like myself have suggested. For him to essentially deny that he said it by saying he was only joking just makes matters worse.

This is a law and order policy that only the Sensible Sentencing Trust could wish for in their wildest dreams.

Just so we can be aware of the context, I have now obtained the full audio and also details of the short part that Phil says he was joking about. It is clear in the entire interview that there is no joking about this serious situation.

Phil Goff Interview BFM

[ [dot] mp3]

It is clear that he isn’t joking. And even if he was he shouldn’t have been. Here is the short version…it certainly doesn’t sound like he is joking.

Phil Goff wants to shoot looters by whaleoil

Nope still can’t see it as joking. Grant Robertson and Phil Goff have some explaining to do.

On NewstalkZB

I’ll be on NewstalkZB with Tim Dower sometime after 1730 today.

Also did an interview on bFM. I defended Rocky and John Minto’s right to protest.