Church of England

Finally some church leaders understand the war we are fighting

It looks like the Anglican Church has finally realised?that Daesh aren’t here to make friends.

The Archbishop of Canterbury will claim Christianity faces ‘elimination’ in its birthplace at the hands of Isis in a considerably less optimistic Christmas address than the Queen’s.

The Most Reverend Justin Welby will brand Islamic extremists as the ‘Herod of today’, a reference to the despot King of Judea at the time of Jesus’s birth in his speech at Canterbury Cathedral.

He will warn that Isis could wipe out the Christian faith in the place it was born two millennia ago, as they ignite ‘a trail of fear, violence, hatred and determined oppression’ in the region.

The Christmas Day Sermon takes a much more dramatic tone than the Queen’s Speech, which is also quotes the bible, but focuses on how the light will overcome the dark.

The Archbishop, however, will warn of the ‘end days’, and talk of the apocalypse as he takes a dramatic tone on the threat Isis poses to the world because of their intolerant attitudes

He will tell the congregation: ‘Confident that these are the last days, using force and indescribable cruelty, they seem to welcome all opposition, certain that the warfare unleashed confirms that these are indeed the end times. ? Read more »

It’s not just the Catholics

It isn’t just dodgy Catholic priests that have diddled kids, seems the Anglican clergy were in it donkey deep too.

Church of England files dating back more than 60 years are to be reopened in search of evidence of child abuse by clergy who have since died.

The Archbishop of York, the Most Rev John Sentamu, ordered the review as he acknowledged that previous inquiries could have missed important evidence because only files relating to those still living were examined.

It comes after an independent inquiry, overseen by Judge Sally Cahill QC, into the Church?s handling of evidence that the late Robert Waddington, a former Dean of Manchester, abused choirboys and school pupils, got under way.? Read more »

Bishops told to bottle gay vote

Looks like the bishops are being asked to bottle the vote against gay marriage. Good.

Bishops are facing intense pressure from inside the Church of England not to use their votes in the House of Lords to block gay marriage, The Daily Telegraph has learnt.

Despite vocal opposition from the Church to the Government?s plans to allow same-sex couples to marry, it is understood that senior officials have personally urged bishops to stay away from this week?s vote.? Read more »

Investigation underway in Church of England, cover-ups, abuse, running with the Catholic playbook

It’s not just the Catholic ratbags who were covering up the buggering of little boys. The archbishop needs to swing for this.

The Archbishop of York is to set up an independent inquiry into allegations that a senior Church of England clergyman abused choirboys and school pupils.

It will look into claims that the Very Rev Robert Waddington, a former dean of Manchester Cathedral who died in 2007, sexually assaulted young choristers in the 1980s, while Lord Hope, then archbishop of York did not report the abuse claims to police or child protection authorities in 1999 and 2003.

Dr John Sentamu today said he was taking the allegations of abuse with the “utmost seriousness”, calling child abuse a ?a heinous and personally damaging crime”.? Read more »

It’s not just the bloody Catholics

It’s not just the bloody Catholics.

It seems too that the Anglican church has a problem with boy buggering, abuse and coverups:

The former Archbishop of York has been accused of covering up allegations that a senior member of the Church of England had abused choirboys and school pupils.

Lord Hope of Thornes was told of the accusations against the Very Rev Robert Waddington, a former Dean of Manchester Cathedral who was made responsible for Church schools, in 1999 and then again in 2003.

The then archbishop did not refer the allegations to police or to child protection agencies, according to The Times.

Following the accusations, Lord Hope, who was then the second most senior bishop in the Church, revoked Waddington’s right to conduct church services and also ordered internal investigations into the alleged abuse.? Read more »

Some good advice from the Archbishop

? The Telegraph

The Archbishop of Canterbury has some good advice and he and his Church grapples with same-sex marriage. He is right…people do need to deal with their own feelings instead of projecting those feelings onto others. Weird, eh? Nope, not really, it is common sense…unless you are at peace with yourself you won’t be at peace with others:

Christians need to overcome their own feelings of embarrassment, shame and disgust about homosexuality, the Archbishop of Canterbury has insisted.

Dr Rowan Williams acknowledged that the Church was still ?scratching its head? about where it stands on issues like same-sex marriage despite its vocal public opposition to the Government?s plan to legalise it.

In his most frank public comments to date on the subject, the Archbishop accepted that the Church was in a ?tangle? over homosexuality.

On one hand many Christians may themselves be ?wrestling? with their own sexuality while others appeared to display only strong feelings of revulsion, he said.

The issue of women bishops ? due to come to a head at the Church of England?s General Synod in York next week ? was another matter which helped give the impression that sex was ?the only thing the Church is interested in?, he remarked.

His comments came during a discussion day for a group of Christian teenagers at Lambeth Palace.

The event ? entitled ?Help, my friends think I’m mad? ? included discussions about how the Church is viewed by the outside world.

Acknowledging that many people view Christians as ?weird, ?mad? and ?primitive? he told them: ?As somebody who doesn?t spend all his time with other Christians, I?m quite conscious too of the fact that people think that I?m weird and we?re weird.?

Why it is hard to take churches seriously

? The Telegraph

This time it is the Anglicans. They haven’t worked out that the world won’t end if they have women bishops. Better than covering up the buggering of little boys though.

Historic plans to allow women to become bishops have been plunged into crisis after existing bishops voted through an eleventh-hour concession to traditionalists.

Campaigners for women in the episcopacy in the Church of England are considering whether to vote the plan down themselves, with some privately condemning it as a ?compromise too far?.

Others say that the concession would give legal status to the view that women bishops would carry a ?taint”.

Yet traditionalists also voiced disappointment at the measure, which they said falls far short of the assurances they say they need, and warned the Church is facing a ?terminal? crisis.

It comes after the Church?s House of Bishops met behind closed doors in York to give its approval to the long-awaited legislation.

In theory it clears the way for a landmark vote at the Church’s General Synod in July to ordain women as bishops.

Church powerless to stop same-sex marriage

The Catholic and Anglican Churches haven’t a show of stopping marriage equality?in?the?UK:

A long-awaited official paper on same-sex marriage makes clear that the Church will be powerless to stop the change even if it mobilises hundreds of thousands of objections.

The Government?s national consultation document, which was published this morning, asks the public whether they ?agree or disagree? with allowing homosexual couples to have civil weddings.

But it makes clear that, while the question is posed in principle, it is a matter of ?how not whether? the change is introduced.

It also warns that the Government will take into account the various points raised in the consultation but ?not the number of responses received?.

Lynne Featherstone, the Equalities Minister, said that the launch of the paper was a ?hugely important step?, upholding principles of ?family, society and personal freedoms?.

But opponents of the move immediately accused the Government of holding a ?sham? consultation? in which opposition would be ?ignored?.

In its first official statement on same-sex marriage, the Church of England committed itself to ?the traditional understanding of the institution of marriage as being between one man and one woman?.

A carefully worded statement, drafted by the Archbishops Council, hinted that the question of marriage could undermine its position as the established church.

Announcing the four-month consultation, Miss Featherstone and the Home Secretary Theresa May said the Government committed to ending the ban on same-sex couples marrying in register offices.

?I believe that if a couple love each other and want to commit to a life together, they should have the option of a civil marriage, whatever their gender,” said Miss Featherstone.

?Today is a hugely important step as we consider how to lift the ban on civil marriage for same-sex couples.

?This is about the underlying principles of family, society, and personal freedoms.

“Marriage is a celebration of love and should be open to everyone.?

Church told to butt out of debate

The Church of England has been told to butt out of the discussion on Marriage Equality:

The Church does not have the exclusive right to define who should be allowed to get married, the equalities minister warns, as she suggests that religious groups have polarised the debate on gay marriage.

Lynne Featherstone directly challenges the role of the Church in the debate over homosexual weddings, saying it does not ?own? marriage.

Writing in The Daily Telegraph, Miss Featherstone says the Government has a right to change the definition of marriage and pledges to challenge those who ?want to leave tradition alone?.

Citing the words of the former Archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Carey, who is a prominent opponent of the Coalition?s plans to allow same-sex couples to marry, she insists that how marriage is defined is up to ?the people?.

In a direct address to the Christian opponents of the proposed changes, she says: ?We understand how strongly some religious groups feel about the issue, which is why we are listening and we want to work with them.

?But there is a range of other views we need to listen to as well.

?I want to urge people not to polarise this debate. This is not a battle between gay rights and religious beliefs. This is about the underlying principles of family, society and personal freedoms.?

In her article, the Liberal Democrat minister insists the Coalition has a duty to push ahead with the changes. ?The fierce debate over the past few weeks has shown people feel very strongly about marriage,? she says. ?Some believe the Government has no right to change it at all; they want to leave tradition alone. I want to challenge that view ? it is the Government?s fundamental job to reflect society and to shape the future, not stay silent where it has the power to act and change things for the better.?

She warned that the Government would not back down on the plans, which she said would extend equal rights to gay and lesbian couples.

?[Marriage] is owned by neither the state nor the Church, as the former Archbishop Lord Carey rightly said. So it is owned by the people,? she said.

One of the greatest political power grabs in history?

This kind of stupidity is why church going numbers are falling, and not just for the Catholics as the former head of the CoE demonstrates:

In an article for the Daily Mail, Lord Carey claimed the proposal to change the status of marriage “constitutes one of the greatest political power grabs in history”.

I hardly think marriage equality is the greatest political power grabs in history.

What about Hitler in 1933? Or Stalin in 1924?

Readers can put other greatest political power grabs in history in the comments section.?