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Why has Auckland Council not asked the ratepayers for permission to dick around with fluoride in the water supply?

Watercare has lowered the amount of fluoride in our water, but done it secretly…but get this…the nutters who want no fluoride are complaining about it!

Auckland’s water provider has quietly reduced its target for fluoride levels in the region’s drinking water.

But it denies the move was clandestine.

Watercare has reduced its target fluoride levels from 0.85 parts per million to 0.7ppm.

The Ministry of Health recommends fluoride content for drinking water in the range of 0.7-1.0ppm and must not exceed 1.5ppm — the acceptable maximum level.

A Watercare spokeswoman said the 0.15ppm drop was part of a continuing effort by the organisation to follow best practice standards.

She said this, “combined with recent international reports, resulted in an operational adjustment of the fluoride target”. ?? Read more »

An email from Dr. Rob Beaglehole about the Marlborough sugar ban

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Yesterday I?ran an article about the strange decision of the Marlborough District Council to look at banning sugary drinks.

I also gave Dr. Rob Beaglehole a sound kicking as well.

I am opposed to councils meddling like this, especially if that same council has decided not to put fluoride in their water. It is my contention that in the case highlighted yesterday that poor parenting firstly and then intransigent councils are the problem, not sugar in drinks.

Dr. Beaglehole phoned me yesterday and we had a friendly discussion about the issue. I suspect we will never agree on the issue of sugary drinks but we do agree on fluoride.

He has emailed me his thoughts and I publish those unedited and with his permission.? Read more »

Marlbourgh District Council loons seeking a ban on sugar, forget they banned fluoride too

The Marlborough District Council are a bunch of loons.

They are now seeking to ban sugary drinks from council facilities in a bid to save kids teeth.

Marlborough District Council could become the second council in New Zealand to ban sugary drinks from being sold at their venues and events.

The council is to develop a policy around the ban after the region’s principal dental officer warned sugar-sweetened beverages were rotting children’s teeth and ramping up levels of obesity and Type II Diabetes.

The council has come under pressure from the Nelson Marlborough District Health Board and Nelson City Council (NCC) to implement a ban on sugary drinks at its events venues. NCC adopted the ban in July and it has been well received by ratepayers there.

If a similar policy gets the green light in Blenheim it would cover sugar-sweetened beverages such as soft drinks, energy drinks, sports drinks and flavoured milk.

They would be banned from sale in council buildings, at its venues including Stadium 2000 in Blenheim, the ferry terminal and airport and at council-run events.

Diet soft drinks would still be sold and people who wanted a sugary drink could bring it to a council building or event.

Nelson Marlborough principal dental officer Dr Rob Beaglehole, who fought for the board to introduce a similar policy in top of the south hospitals, said the council had a responsibility to act as a role model.

“This isn’t a draconian policy for a blanket ban on sugar. We are not about to stop telling people they can’t have sugar in their tea or coffee. It is about making the healthy choice the easiest choice.”

He was sick of extracting rotten teeth from children who had been drinking soft drinks. Last month he pulled 11 teeth from a 2-year-old boy.

Most of his front teeth were rotten and after the extraction he needed 15 stitches.

“He wasn’t in great shape. He hadn’t been sleeping properly for weeks and he hadn’t eaten properly for two weeks.

“His mum was beside herself and sat up with him most nights. He was crying in pain.”

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Guest post: Fluoridation

After SB’s post about Vaccination I received a guest submission about fluoridation.

Hi team

Really impressed about SB post about vaccination. It is so hard to find any unemotional look at the data/facts. Both sides rely heavily on the emotions/guilt/worry/fear deal.

Please find attached a guest post about water fluoridation. The TL;DR summary is that I stated to write a submission about how I don’t support water fluoridation. However as I went through all the points against it, I found them to be half truths. So have changed my mind and now support it. But the difference between un-fluoridated and fluoridated is becoming less as fluoride becomes more common in our environment. So at some time in the future we will no longer need it. Also there are very serious risks of babies being bottle feed obtaining to much fluoride and having health effects.

Have not seen real rebuttals of the anti-fluoride people, so hence this doc. The irony is that an anti-fluoride person drinking a cup of tea gets more fluoride from the tea, than the water! Offered it to the MSM but no one would take it…..

If you tell me the day it is going to be published I can be online for any comments (can’t be Sat or Sun as out for weekend).

Cheers

David


Water fluoridation

A seminal moment occurred to me while at university. And like many such pivotal moments it occurred completely unexpectantly. One day while striding down the university corridor in my tall black leader boots, ripped jeans, long trenchcoat and long hair I got trapped behind to old lecturers slowly ambling down the passage to tea. They were really old, at least 30! One turned to the other and said ? the problem with the system is that by the time we get student to PhD or higher and they can know really start to question things, they are so indoctrinated in the way things are, that they are not willing/able to question things.? This has stayed with me every since as a warning to always be open minded and question the commonly held truisms.

My journey with fluoride begin like most with believing that is was great. But then doing some reading some years ago changed to thinking it was at best a scam and worst a poison. However I didn?t care to much as we were not on town supply, so it was a moot point. Recently Hamilton re-examined its views on fluoridation and as such I went to write a brief facebook post about how they should get ride of it. In this process I realized my belief was based upon some figures I had read, that being dyslexic I had got wrong by a factor of 10. Thus I needed to reexamine by beliefs once again.

This time I seriously looked at every claim the anti-fluoride peoples made, and considered their validity. Most, but not all, fall under the title of half truth or selective data picking. That is there is some truth in their statements but they are not telling the whole picture. These are quickly dealt with before getting onto the arguments, which ironically are not the major ones but forward, that have substance. ? Read more »

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