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More MH370 debris found?

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With the flaperon now confirmed as coming from flight?MH370, theories that it floated for long distances before it got to Reunion Island are now less likely as more plane debris is being found.

More plane wreckage, including a window, has been found on Reunion Island where a wing flap was earlier confirmed as coming from missing flight MH370.

Malaysia’s transport minister said a Malaysian team at the French territory of Reunion Island has collected other plane debris including a window and some aluminum foil. Read more »

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Aviation expert wants to know who took flight MH370

How can a plane full of people just disappear? ?Do the experts know more than they are telling?

Tim Clark has been a senior manager at the airline Emirates since 1985 and has been instrumental in developing it into one of the world’s largest airlines. Today, the 64-year-old is seen as a knowledgeable expert and critic of the aviation industry. His view of the vanished Malaysian Airlines flight MH 370 is a provocative one. The plane that disappeared was a Boeing 777 and Emirates operates 127 such aircraft, more than any other airline in the world.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: It’s now October, seven months after the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines flight MH 370, and we still don’t know what happened. What can still be done to gain some degree of clarity?

Clark: MH 370 remains one of the great aviation mysteries. Personally, I have the concern that we will treat it as such and move on. At the most, it might then make an appearance on National Geographic as one of aviation’s great mysteries. We mustn’t allow this to happen. We must know what caused that airplane to disappear.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: And what do you think happened?

Clark: My own view is that probably control was taken of that airplane.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: By whom? What do you think happened? Read more »

Hey New Zealand! “What’s on your Bucket List?” asks Malaysian Airlines

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You can’t make this up – it can only be real

Malaysia Airlines has changed the name of a ticket-sale promotion that invoked an “inappropriate” death reference by asking travellers which places were on their “bucket list”.

The airline had offered prizes, including free round-trip flights to Malaysia from Australia and New Zealand, in a contest called “My Ultimate Bucket List”, despite 537 people being killed in two air accidents involving the airline this year.

A bucket list refers to things someone wants to do before dying, or “kicking the bucket”.

The fact anyone still books tickets with Malaysian is a miracle, so perhaps that will offset the bad luck, right? ? Read more »

Civilian? No weapons… Well, then it was bringing spies! (MH17 phone calls)

Listen to the people who may have been involved in shooting down MH17 looking for anything that can justify the mistake in military terms…

BREAKING: provisional report of 1 New Zealander on board downed flight MH17 [ LIVE UPDATES ]


A Malaysian Airlines passenger plane has been shot down on the Russian-Ukraine border, killing all 295 people on board, according to a Ukrainian interior ministry official.

Flight MH17, which was carrying 280 passengers and 15 crew, was flying between Amsterdam and Kuala Lumpur after taking off at lunchtime today.

Read our earlier live reports here. ?It contains?a lot?of background information, some of it superseded, but most of it still useful.


LIVE UPDATING CLOSED. ?Any further major updates will happen via their own posts, minor updates via Daily Roundup and or the general debate posts.

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Phone call transcript via Kyiv Post

First call:

Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).

Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?

IB: Gone to search for and photograph the plane. It’s smoking.

VG: How many minutes ago?

IB: About 30 minutes ago.

Second call (approx 40 minutes later) ? Read more »

MH370 now joined by MH17 – Malaysian Airlines jet shot down over Ukraine [ UPDATED]

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An Air New Zealand spokeswoman says the airline does?not operate any routes that fly over Ukraine, nor does it have a passenger sharing arrangement with airlines that do.

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More of a “no news’ update: ?MFaT still unable to comment on New Zealand passenger numbers on MH17.

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Schiphol reports: 154 Dutch; 27 Australian; 23 Malaysia; 11 Indonesia; 6 UK; 4 Germany; 4 Belgium; 3 Philippines; 1 Canada; 47 unknown. ?All 15 crew members were Malaysian.

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Press conference in The Netherlands from Shiphol.

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Passengers are from Netherlands with 143 passengers. Australia comes in second with 27 passengers.?There were 11 Indonesian passengers and one infant on-board the ill-fated flight. Britain has six passengers, France and Germany have four each, Belgium have three and Canada one.?Nationalities of the other 58 passengers were not stated in the list.?

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UNCONFIRMED ?-?Nationalities Passenger details Netherlands 143 Australian 27 Malaysian 20 (including 2 infants) Indonesian 11 (including 1 infant) Read more »

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What a waste of money and all for nothing

Australia has outspent everyone else in the fruitless search for MH370. And it is all for nothing with everyone being no closer now to finding the aircraft than at the start of the whole bizarre episode.

Conspiracy theories aside, basically the plane is gone, the passengers and crew are all dead, there is little point in trying to find it now.

The Malaysian Government has revealed it has spent just a fraction of what Australia has paid in the search for missing flight MH370, as officials from both countries prepare to meet to discuss the next phase of the mission.

Officials from Malaysia yesterday held talks in Canberra, including discussions around funding for the operation. The Australian Government has set aside almost A$90 million ($99 million) for the search.

The head of the joint task force charged with finding MH370, Angus Houston, said yesterday that discussions around the next phase of the search included negotiations with Malaysia over the cost of the search.

“The Government has allocated A$89.9 million. I think about A$25 million of that is to go to the defence force for the visual search they conducted,” the former defence force chief said. “There’s another A$60 million that’s been allocated for the underwater search. That money has been allocated but we’re still to crunch, or still to negotiate the burden-sharing with, for example, Malaysia.”

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Why?

Cherie Howie has a story on MH370 number plates…playing catch up on a post we did some time ago which featured this photo.

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Featured on WOBH April14 via Twitter – Simon Day @simondangerday

Personalised number plates bearing the flight number of the Malaysia Airlines ghost flight have been sold since the jetliner vanished on March 8.

Personalised Plates owner Jeremy Lubeck said the plates MH370 and MH37O ? the latter in bright red markings ? had been sold by his company since the flight disappeared. Each was sold for $599. Read more »

MH370: When to stop looking?

The search for Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 just can’t catch a break

The search for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane could take years, a senior US defence official has warned, as the underwater search off Western Australia failed to find any trace of wreckage or black boxes.

A US navy submersible drone has been scouring the southern Indian Ocean’s seabed within a six-mile radius of the spot where a signal thought to come from a black box was detected, around a month after flight MH370 went missing on 8 March. Twelve crew and 227 passengers were on board.

The Bluefin-21 drone has scoured 95% of that focus area without finding any sign of the Boeing-777. The broader maritime search has also failed to locate any wreckage.

Nothing physical has been found. ?Not a single seat cushion. ?Not a single piece of luggage. ? All we’ve reportedly had were some sounds that “could only have come” from the flight data recorder. ?But that too, a week after its guaranteed 30 day operational span, has gone silent. ? Read more »

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