Smoking ban

I have a great new idea to stop road fatalities

Make cars too expensive to buy and use. ? No, seriously. ?That’s the approach we use for smoking, so why not for cars and other things we want to socially engineer to be too expensive for most to use?

From 1 January 2016, the price of cigarettes will increase by 10 percent, the fourth and final scheduled annual increase.

The government has yet to announce whether it will commit to further annual price increases, but has said it wants to make the country to be smoke-free by 2025.

End Smoking NZ chairwoman Marewa Glover not only wants the increase to continue, she wants the government to raise it.

“I found with our studies people tend to have a budget. So they might say their budget is $15 for tobacco, a day and then they just make it work. They’ll buy loose tobacco, they’ll shift from the manufactured tobacco packets to loose tobacco and start rolling their own, to make it go further.”

“They try and reduce down the number of cigarettes per day. They try and stay within their budget and what helps them by also shifting to a cheaper brand,” she said.

Dr Glover said a 20 percent increase would make smoking unobtainable for more people.

“A lot of people have a price, what we call a break point and if it gets to that then they go ”oh no, that’s it, I can’t do this anymore, I have to quit’, and they will make a serious attempt.”

But, Dr?Marewa Glover isn’t stupid. ?She knows that if you make something too expensive, or you effectively ban it, people will try to find a way around it somehow. ? Read more »

Solving the Tobacco Issues Simply

This was submitted via yesterday’s “Soapbox”

Solving the Tobacco Issues Simply.
Being a nicotine addict for almost 50 years I am sick and tired of my basic human rights being undermined on a daily basis by the “control freaks” and their continued demands that only their desires and rights to be recognized.

I believe there are far too many people in New Zealand ready and willing to ride rough shod over the rights of all and sundry to expand their personal control agenda over others. This I believe is at present most clearly seen in the anti-smoking and now anti-sugar lobbyists, many of whom have been and are pushing both barrows.

Thoughts to Consider.
Given that the tobacco product is already banned from public display in store, there is absolutely no need to go down the road of plain packaging. As has been pointed out on this news site, plain packaging of tobbacco is a can of worms that will back fire, not only on those who think it a good idea but on many other products as well. But we can save the cost of that legislation and enforcement plus any possible legal costs from possible court action by brand holders.

To me the idea of New Zealand going “Smoke Free” while a noble ideal, is a total fallacy. A fools argument that can only end in failure as legal tobbacco is phased out and the blackmarket takes over. To go “Smoke Free” is going to cost a lot to enforce, and the revenue from excise duty and taxes currently on tobacco is not going to be available to the Government, whoever they may be at the time.

There is a better answer to the problem of nicotine addiction.? Read more »

Outside smoking bans not supported by data

Cigarette stubbed out

As the Auckland Council moves to use peer pressure to stop people smoking outdoors there is evidence to suggest that they may well have been hoodwinked (no surprises there) by the very vocal anti-smoking whingers.

It seems that there is little if any evidence to support their contentions worldwide.

Bayer and Bachynski examined bans on smoking in public. These bans began to take off in the late 1970s and now include more than 840 parks and 150 beaches across the U.S. alone, according to the American Nonsmokers? Rights Foundation. California has bans in 155 parks and on 46 beaches; Minnesota, 118 parks and 25 beaches; and New Jersey, 83 parks and 18 beaches. France, Australia and New Zealand have enacted bans as well.

In getting these bans enacted three justifications were used: Smoking on beaches and in parks posed a health hazard to nonsmokers, especially children; cigarette butts were toxic to humans and animals and constituted an unacceptable form of litter; and public smoking by adults provided a dangerous model that threatened the future well-being of children and adolescents. ? Read more »

What is the point?


Auckland Council has extended the continued denigration of smokers by passing a city wide smoking ban.

Almost all public spaces in Auckland will become no go zones for smokers after the Auckland Council today signed off a policy to get the city smoke-free by 2025. ? Read more »

Could the Noddies be signalling something bigger?

Labour?s noddies have again shown themselves to be complete tools.


In a desperate attempt to be seen to be meeting people, Noddies 1, 2 & 3 decided to pop into Paremoremo prison?to visit serial prisoner Arthur Taylor.

Kris Fa’afoi couldn’t find the time to go to the Police College for a graduation, preferring to have a BBQ with David Shearer, and bnow his priorities are to support criminals having a fag.

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Australia is still so totally gay

Last month James Delingpole said that Australia was “so totally gay”…and this month they prove they still are so totally gay:

Australian states have been accused of “nannyism” over a range of new laws beginning this year, including a ban on ladies’ nights – where bars offer free drinks to women.

Other new measures include a ban in Victoria on smoking within 50 metres of the beach and guidelines issued to some schools in New South Wales asking parents dropping children off to avoid wearing revealing clothes or racist T-shirts.

The ban on ladies’ nights will commence from January 18 in South Australia and was introduced by the state to try to curb binge drinking. The measures also require bars to offer free water and at least one non-alcoholic beverage that is cheaper than the cheapest alcoholic drink.

PJ O’Briens, a bar in Adelaide, said it would change the name of its weekly ladies’ nights – a Thursday deal offering free vodka drinks to women – and would allow men to access its promotions.

“As long as you offer the special deals to everyone, it is OK,” the manager said.

And the nanny state has extended to the countries beaches as well:

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WTF is wrong with our judges?

A crim hugging dud judge has decided the smoking ban in Auckland Prison isn’t lawful.

He reckons that their jail cells are their living rooms and their right to smoke should be protected.

Maybe we should put in some jacuzzis too?

Has the judge forgotten that the taxpayer forks out a hundred thousand a year for these bozos to be punished?

If the Government says they can’t smoke then that’s the way it is going to be.

Corrections is quite rightly ignoring the judge and keeping the ban in place.

Meanwhile the Minister Anne Tolley makes her thoughts clear to the judge.

“The smoking ban in prisons has been a great success and there is no way we are backing away from it. Prisons are safer and healthier places for staff and offenders, and if we need to change the law to maintain this then that is what we will do.”

Another spectacular own goal from a judge.

Another good job by Judith Collins

? Sunday Star-Times

Contrary to the whining of the left wing that everything from riots to anal rape would occur if smoking was banned in prison, everything is trucking along just nicely thank you very much.

Inmates are breathing easy following the prison smoking ban with scientists finding a greater than 50 per cent rise in air quality and ? to everyone’s surprise ? no major incidents since the big stub out.

Smoking was banned in New Zealand prisons on June 1 last year with stark warnings from prisoners, prison advocates, and guards of riots and disorder.

However, there were no riots and Corrections staff report a number of unforeseen benefits.

Prison services assistant general manager Rachel Leota said prisons had reported a “calmer” environment with fewer “standover” incidents now that tobacco has been taken out of circulation.

Inmates had been heard on the prison telephone monitoring system telling family they appreciated living in a smoke-free environment and encouraging family to give up.

Prisoners had more money to spend on things such as phone cards, she said.

Yet another criminal justice success from Judith Collins, who refused to listen to the namby-pamby crim huggers.